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Tunicate posted:So, the bookmark definitely forces Chrollo to explain all his powers in detail when he's using it, right? Maybe? Except he used sun and moon before he explained anything whereas Genthru explained his ability then it activated.
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Chrollo doesn't have to limit himself to those five abilities, but as he said last chapter this is just as much about style as it is winning. He explained everything to Hisoka because he is confident that he can beat Hisoka without keeping secrets. Sure, he could pull out dozens of different abilities and never explain any of them to beat Hisoka, but that would be gauche.
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May 3, 2016 14:37
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Serious Frolicking posted:There is no prize money, just the nebulous promise of becoming a floor master. Everyone there is a battle junkie. Basically it's the last part of the ZOT tournament in Battle Angel Alita Last Order and all the audience members are there to witness it to the end regardless of their own personal safety and lives.
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May 3, 2016 14:42
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Actually, other than Gon and Killua, has anyone ever gotten an explanation of Bungie Gum or Texture Surprise from Hisoka? Without an explanation the way Hisoka's powers work is pretty ambiguous.
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May 3, 2016 15:25
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Gyges posted:Actually, other than Gon and Killua, has anyone ever gotten an explanation of Bungie Gum or Texture Surprise from Hisoka? Without an explanation the way Hisoka's powers work is pretty ambiguous. Well the needle girl knew about bungee gum so Chrollo should as well
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May 3, 2016 15:26
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Kild posted:Well the needle girl knew about bungee gum so Chrollo should as well Oh wait. He did explain texture surprise to her. At least in the Anime. Don't remember that far back in the manga. So Chrollo might know about Texture Surprise? However Hisoka then uses it in YorkNew to disguise his fortune and no one calls him out on it so...Even she forgot about it afterwards? So who knows.
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May 3, 2016 15:31
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Kild posted:Well the needle girl knew about bungee gum so Chrollo should as well i assume its not a secret. Nobunaga and franklin got into a fight talking about bungee gum.
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May 3, 2016 15:31
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I'm pretty sure Hisoka has never explained Texture Surprise to anyone, ever. It's his trump card, and what makes him a true magician. Bungie Gum is just the flourish, the flashy ability to misdirect their attention.
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May 3, 2016 15:33
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Crain posted:Oh wait. He did explain texture surprise to her. At least in the Anime. Don't remember that far back in the manga. I think he gave a misleading explanation for it in the anime. In the manga the narrator was the one to explain the powers. Tunicate fucked around with this message at 15:39 on May 3, 2016 |
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May 3, 2016 15:33
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Texture Surprise is something no one else knows the truth about; that was explicit in Yorknew and key to his plan there, yeah. They probably all know about Bungee Gum, though.
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May 3, 2016 15:36
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Tunicate posted:I think he gave a misleading explanation for it in the anime. Well the "explaintion" for it is in chapter 55. But Machi seems to already be aware of it. After fixing his arms she says: "There are still lesions on your arms, but you'll heal after [sic]. With your Pansy [sic] Gum and your Deceitful Texture you might be able to do something for it." He then proceeds to perform it in front of her, but I'm not sure that all the explanation bubbles there are him actually explaining what's going on. It seems more like it just an exposition section for Togashi to tell the reader what's up. So he doesn't really give her a false explanation, and she sees it used to disguise his wounds. I think this is just a story misstep. So Chrollo may or may not be aware of Texture surprise and may or may not be aware of what it actually does.
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May 3, 2016 15:46
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I can't believe how sad I was watching the end of the Ant arc. That bit after the credits with the King asking Komugi to stay by his side...hoo man, I need a minute.
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Crain posted:Well the "explaintion" for it is in chapter 55. But Machi seems to already be aware of it. After fixing his arms she says: Machi knew that texture surprise exists, but I kind of doubt that she knows all it is capable of. I think this was explained during the scene with the falsified prophecy? I'll look it up later. Heck, we probably don't know all it can do either. For bungee gum, just knowing how it works isn't enough to trivialize it. Hisoka can use misdirection to apply it or he can just touch someone. I think he can also transfer it if someone touches something it is attached to. Blocking doesn't work, so his opponents have to dodge everything. Hisoka loves to use deception, but he was never completely dependent on it.
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Serious Frolicking posted:Machi knew that texture surprise exists, but I kind of doubt that she knows all it is capable of. I think this was explained during the scene with the falsified prophecy? I'll look it up later. Heck, we probably don't know all it can do either. Don't take my job. 
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^^ ah cool.there we go.^^Serious Frolicking posted:Machi knew that texture surprise exists, but I kind of doubt that she knows all it is capable of. I think this was explained during the scene with the falsified prophecy? I'll look it up later. Heck, we probably don't know all it can do either. Oh yeah, knowing what his abilities are is almost meaningless. Machi does say "Even knowing it's there, it would be hard to spot without [seeing it applied or being able to touch it]." The translation was kinda poor so it's not clear on that last part, but regardless in a high speed, high stakes fight like this having to look out for something like Texture Surprise alone would be a huge problem.
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May 3, 2016 16:23
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Same with bungee gum. If you don't pay attention 100% of the time, he will get you with it. Hisoka is great at pulling wins from the jaws of defeat, chrollo is probably at least semi-boned, although he might make it out
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May 3, 2016 17:29
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Like, even if an opponent knows about Bungee Gum and how it works and about Hisoka's love of misdirection and general trickery, Bungee Gum still gives Hisoka basically unparalleled control over position and movement, and not only of himself, of any-loving-thing he can stick the Gum too. And Sun and Moon is a position dependent ability that Chrollo cannot remove or control once placed. Chrollo has already lost this, the only question is, how big will the explosion that kills him be.
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May 3, 2016 20:17
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imagine not having total faith hisoka is going to win
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May 3, 2016 20:22
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not why this double post got through
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May 3, 2016 20:22
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Like, Chrollo is utterly doomed unless he's lying about something, which he for sure is, so he's probably got a better chance here than it strictly looks like he should. But he's still doomed.
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May 3, 2016 20:24
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togashi is building up chrollo's apparent advantage so its cooler when hisoka merks him
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May 3, 2016 20:28
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The thing is chrollo won't in no way let himself be killed so easily either. Hisoka will probably get real close after suffering some grievous damage, but Chrollo gotta have an exit plan
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May 3, 2016 21:14
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i think hisoka is going to win, but only for meta reasons,
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May 3, 2016 21:21
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I think Hisoka is going to win because his true secret nen ability is fighting power increases with sexual arousal.
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May 3, 2016 21:24
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Chrollos nen ability is bullshit. The lion dude has a cooler skill steal and it doesn't require 10 pages of exposition.
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May 3, 2016 22:49
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Hisoka is going to win because thinking about how to make a fight with chrollo's miriad of abilities is what caused the last Hiatus.
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Pewdiepie posted:Chrollos nen ability is bullshit. The lion dude has a cooler skill steal and it doesn't require 10 pages of exposition. Calling it now - the lion guy didn't die, he actually used the faceswap power and traded places with chrollo
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May 3, 2016 23:23
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Hisoka is going to win because Kurapika doesn't deserve that kill.
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Tunicate posted:Calling it now - the lion guy didn't die, he actually used the faceswap power and traded places with chrollo As much as there's no loving way this is the case, I totally want this to be the answer.
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Win or lose, Hisoka's story is pretty much over now. Gon ruined himself, as did Kurapika as far as Hisoka is concerned. He never cared nearly as much about Killua or Leorio. Sure, he could keep on popping up in future arcs (not that there will ever be future arcs), but why?
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Serious Frolicking posted:Win or lose, Hisoka's story is pretty much over now. Gon ruined himself, as did Kurapika as far as Hisoka is concerned. He never cared nearly as much about Killua or Leorio. Sure, he could keep on popping up in future arcs (not that there will ever be future arcs), but why? Because I don't really believe that Gon is finished when to comes to the story. As much as Tagoshi likes to fly in the face of shonen cliches, there's no way that the main character is gone for good. I'm sure that we'll get a nice long story arc without him. Maybe two. But He's coming back in some capacity. Hell. Let him come back Rock Lee style. No nen but at the literal peak of physical ability.
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Serious Frolicking posted:Win or lose, Hisoka's story is pretty much over now. Gon ruined himself, as did Kurapika as far as Hisoka is concerned. He never cared nearly as much about Killua or Leorio. Sure, he could keep on popping up in future arcs (not that there will ever be future arcs), but why? Because someone reports on the Dark Continent, the majority of the world that is filled with insanely deadly threats and esoteric dangers the likes of which even the most powerful men in history could not comprehend and challenge, and the force of blood rushing to his erection will propel him there instantly?
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Boogaleeboo posted:Because someone reports on the Dark Continent, the majority of the world that is filled with insanely deadly threats and esoteric dangers the likes of which even the most powerful men in history could not comprehend and challenge, and the force of blood rushing to his erection will propel him there instantly? The man lives for breaking and then killing strong people. If he just wanted to challenge dangerous situations there are tons of ways for a hunter to do so.
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Boogaleeboo posted:Because someone reports on the Dark Continent, the majority of the world that is filled with insanely deadly threats and esoteric dangers the likes of which even the most powerful men in history could not comprehend and challenge, and the force of blood rushing to his erection will propel him there instantly? Hisoka doesn't seem like the type of person that would enjoy the threats that exist on the Dark Continent, like Netero. They look for strong opponents in a fight, the stuff on the Dark Continent mostly seems like apocalyptic disasters that you can't fight because they're a disease or w/e.
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Hisoka is going to win because bungee gum has both the properties of rubber AND gum.
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Boy are you gonna feel dumb when Leorio punches supercancer in the face...
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An integral part of Chrollo's strategy is likely paralyzing Hisoka with information. He can control people, control puppets, make copies, swap appearances, plus untold other things he hasn't bothered to explain (unless, indeed, that is a new condition he has to deal with). Has he used both antennae? Is he stamping copies? Have all the sun/moon bombs gone off? Would any sun symbol coming into contact with any other moon symbol trigger an explosion? Chrollo could, hypothetically, give some puppets the order to "Break" him while others are ordered to touch their symbols together. Chrollo knows Hisoka's smart, strong, and adaptable, so he's keeping Hisoka on his toes for as long as possible. Hisoka's at his most dangerous when he appears bored because it usually means he's figured you out.
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Is there an anime where people don't stop and explain what they're doing in the middle of a fight? One Punch Man maybe?
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Genocyber posted:Hisoka doesn't seem like the type of person that would enjoy the threats that exist on the Dark Continent, like Netero. They look for strong opponents in a fight, the stuff on the Dark Continent mostly seems like apocalyptic disasters that you can't fight because they're a disease or w/e. netero didn't enjoy it either. So hisoka's probably not going to the continent. When it comes to him joining the literal bloodbath that will be the succession, i have my hopes up.
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Say Nothing posted:Is there an anime where people don't stop and explain what they're doing in the middle of a fight? No OPM does that to, but there the MC just responds with "OK."
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