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Ein cooler Typ posted:and why does Gilfoyle need to work for Geek Squad? Can Pied Piper not afford to pay him a salary anymore? Are you serious with this?
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LividLiquid posted:Are you— Just as serious as (s)he is about living under bridges and freshly-baked bonemeal bread. (I hope.)
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Did Big Head type up the contract as Bachmann dictated it? It looked like Big Head go distracted on the part about how disputes will be settled with a coin flip. I wonder if he hosed that up and if it will come back up later.
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I think no matter what, we're going to end up with something where Bighead screwed up but it still works out for him. I'm interested to see what it is.
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Kanish posted:I also think perhaps his signatures might also be invalid on the hooli contract, but who knows where they are going with this. This isn't a real thing. If he signed it, he signed it. No matter what his mark looked like.
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quote:But they do have a nice juicer in the kitchen.
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Zero One posted:This isn't a real thing. If he signed it, he signed it. No matter what his mark looked like. To say nothing of the fact that he was signing the documents in Bachman's 'incubator' within clear line of sight of easily 4-5 witnesses (and Jared, whom I think is incapable of lying) who could attest to seeing him sign the documents, while speaking clearly about the fact that he was signing documents *about* his partnership with Bachman. There's no 'airplane, meet treadmill' here. It's obviously going to blow up in Bachman's face *somehow*, while Bighead will come out ahead, but yeah, let's not have a loving week's worth of armchair contract lawyers making this the new spergpoint.
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So by the end of the season Richard won't be CEO anymore, correct?
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BIG HEADLINE posted:To say nothing of the fact that he was signing the documents in Bachman's 'incubator' within clear line of sight of easily 4-5 witnesses (and Jared, whom I think is incapable of lying) who could attest to seeing him sign the documents, while speaking clearly about the fact that he was signing documents *about* his partnership with Bachman. There's no 'airplane, meet treadmill' here. It's obviously going to blow up in Bachman's face *somehow*, while Bighead will come out ahead, but yeah, let's not have a loving week's worth of armchair contract lawyers making this the new spergpoint. I really know nothing about how that all works, I think people are harping on it just because he made a big point of how his signature wouldn't hold up, so naturally you wonder when the other shoe will drop.
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I consistently identify with Big Head's personality and reactions and I have no idea if that means I should be rooting for him or not rooting for him.
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LividLiquid posted:And they're now valued at 250 million dollars. Yes, as Richard now the CEO says, "We're a $250 million company...that's dead-rear end broke" Solice Kirsk posted:So by the end of the season Richard won't be CEO anymore, correct?
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Kanish posted:I really know nothing about how that all works, I think people are harping on it just because he made a big point of how his signature wouldn't hold up, so naturally you wonder when the other shoe will drop.
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withak posted:It is some kind of rare beer. What's the definition of rare beer here? bawfuls posted:It's pretty good. I waited in line for it once (because that's the only way to get it generally) and it was fine. Not worth waiting in line for again though. I mean, years back I sent out some bottles of Elder and Blind Pig to other goons in Beer Exchange but should I do that again and boost the trade value? Zachack fucked around with this message at 06:20 on May 24, 2016 |
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I understand all the complaints about the subpar plot and Richard generally being a frustrating protagonist, but the comedy is just so on point that it doesn't really matter to me. Not only are Jared, Erlich, Guilfoyle and Dinesh hilarious individually, but their chemistry is also through the roof. Its just a joy to watch. Jared's "oh captain my captain!" bit...amazing.
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It's...it's almost as if the comedy is found in the characters being flawed! Jesus, you people demanding flawless protagonists want a really boring show, don't you. I will never understand folks who think a character making a bad decision is the same as the show itself being bad.
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CelestialScribe posted:It's...it's almost as if the comedy is found in the characters being flawed!
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Ein cooler Typ posted:This show relies too much on wacky sitcom misunderstandings like Richard being in the wrong conference room It's called farce. The show has always been farcical. Mike Judge's projects have always been farcical.
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VagueRant posted:The other characters are funny and flawed and relatable. I feel Dinesh's horror at the loss of his hard drive. But Richard had zero redeeming qualities this episode and it made me root against him the entire time. He doesn't need to have any. Jesus Christ.
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CelestialScribe posted:It's...it's almost as if the comedy is found in the characters being flawed! I don't know about "flawless", but I personally wish they'd make fewer bad decisions. Some of their fuckups are funny and/or drive the plot forward, but I don't think I'm alone in saying that it feels like the screwups can make the show less fun to watch sometimes. I was actually really down on this episode until I saw everything get resolved by the end. We have heard enough stories about Pied Piper accidentally giving away their IP, or Richard being awkward and screwing things up, and for a while it seemed like they could never have any unqualified successes. No, I don't want to watch a show where the protagonists handle themselves flawlessly and create their business with no problems along the way, but they can write conflict coming from exterior sources, or at least let them have a solid win at the end, like in this last episode. I don't know that I would continue watching this show if the next episode was about how another compression company was sticking it to Pied Piper after having bought Dinesh's hard drive. I'm just not entertained by so much consistent failure.
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Characters can have flaws but they should be consistent. RIGBY we see 2 or 3 examples of Richard being unable to speak a coherent sentence when he is stressed. Then he enters the conference room and launches into a well spoken 1000 word 'Here's what I'm not allowed to say to the reporter' monologue without a problem. Then he is made CEO and goes back to being awkward and unable to speak intelligibly - to a few employees he can only see on computer monitors. and then there's the matter of the PR rep who was going to coach Richard, and the reporter...both being booked into different conference rooms at the same time?! Huh. Wouldn't you schedule the PR rep for the morning and the interview for the afternoon, or at least book the PR for an hour or two prior to the reporter showing up. Kinda clunky writing. Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 12:53 on May 24, 2016 |
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I don't know if anyone here wants to read a critical review of this farcical show but The AV Club makes a few good points in their episode review, eg:quote:Clearly the writers want Richard and company to still be in the position of the underdog because that’s the heroic place for them to be, fighting against the forces of entropy and idiocy that distinguish the successful. Much of the episode is an aggressive move to get us back to that position, and while it does that job in a way that makes sense it also does so with such speed it raises questions why a chunk of what happened to date in the season happened. And by dipping deeper into the cringe comedy pool than ever before, it also raises questions as to whether or not stepping back is the right decision for a Richard who still has a lot to learn. quote:The episode ends with all the pieces put back to where they were before: Richard is once again CEO and Pied Piper is back to being run out of a living room. Sure there’s a fancy new chair for Richard to sit in and there’s a full team of engineers building their platform remotely, but all of it still feels like the same. Given that “the same” is still one of television’s best comedies that’s not a damning statement on make, but with how great season’ three’s been as Pied Piper moves into the big leagues “The Empty Chair” can’t help but come across as a disappointment. Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 11:59 on May 24, 2016 |
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It's not hard guys. The creators have said that as soon as Pied Piper wins the show will be boring because there's no conflict. They have to be perpetual underdogs or the magic is gone. This is how it has to be when you don't know how long the show will air - if they win too soon you'll have multiple seasons where they have nothing significant to do. The real problem is some sort you identify so strongly with the team that you want them to succeed so seeing these constant halting steps is going to drive you nuts. Just enjoy the comedy, the plot is absolutely secondary.
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Binary Logic posted:Characters can have flaws but they should be consistent. Richard is unable to speak coherent sentences when he's stressed until he reaches a breaking point, then he's on point. See: negotiating Jack out of firing them and getting to work on the platform last episode. He's always been fairly consistent in that regard.
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Enderzero posted:It's not hard guys. The creators have said that as soon as Pied Piper wins the show will be boring because there's no conflict. They have to be perpetual underdogs or the magic is gone. This is how it has to be when you don't know how long the show will air - if they win too soon you'll have multiple seasons where they have nothing significant to do. That's not necessarily true. You can have them "win" by becoming a successful company and releasing their platform, and then tap into the wide range of external conflict that they've flirted with in the past, like Gavin Belson's rivalry -- make the Endframe compression team the main villains, or another startup out to steal their market, or another Maliant out to co-opt their tech, or something like the Oracle/Google lawsuits going on right now, with another company using their tech and claiming "fair use". Or hell, just show all the pressure that comes with expanding your business and finding new hires, dealing with remote office employees, having to actually host the awkward extravagant parties that featured in season 1, etc. I think it's taking a very narrow view of the subject matter to decide that your protagonists need to take 6 seasons and a movie to just get their project off the ground, suggesting that the only possible way to introduce conflict is by having the protagonists gently caress things up over and over. I've already come up with a half-dozen plotlines for a Pied Piper business that isn't continually getting hosed over.
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Golden Bee posted:Can you give this in a letter ranking, thx. The hell is this. I don't know who you are talking about.
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Richard becoming CEO is hopefully so he can learn he shouldn't be CEO. It made sense to fire him at the end of last season as everyone on the planet knows he's not leadership material; Richard himself has yet to learn that lesson. I'm hoping the last half of the season is Richard figuring out for himself what everyone else knew and stepping down, rather than getting fired. Again.
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Mortanis posted:Richard becoming CEO is hopefully so he can learn he shouldn't be CEO. It made sense to fire him at the end of last season as everyone on the planet knows he's not leadership material; Richard himself has yet to learn that lesson. I'm hoping the last half of the season is Richard figuring out for himself what everyone else knew and stepping down, rather than getting fired. Again. In terms of narrative arc, this would make the most sense. He starts the season out desperately trying to prove that he's worthy of the CEO job. Now that he has it, the logical next step is him getting smacked in the face with the responsibility that comes with that, and he can either rise to meet that responsibility or realize that it's not what he actually wants.
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Richard has to be CEO for awhile, they don't have the money to hire anyone else.
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They really need to kill Richard off this season. He is the worst character in the show. They could come up with a funny death scene where he gets electrocuted or drowns in the pool. Or maybe Erlich accidentally dismembers him. Gavin sends his regards.
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CelestialScribe posted:It's...it's almost as if the comedy is found in the characters being flawed! I actually love the show and think its the funniest thing currently on TV, but Richard is an annoying character and I find it hard to root for him. Its not an unreasonable stance. But, like I said, it doesn't really detract from my overall enjoyment of the show.
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Every single character on this show is amazing. Hope that helps. Esp. Richard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5w3gLkfqfc
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Richard isn't that funny but I also agree with whoever said that Bachmann is getting a little old, I miss Peter Gregory he was really funny, I still sometimes will think of "Billions of breadings!" and "these burgers of which they are I presume...King?" and laugh to myself
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Thomas Middleditch has still never managed to be funnier, in this entire show so far, than he was in that one Sunday Funday episode of You're The Worst.
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Wait are y'all saying straight men in comedy are never the funniest characters? Breaking real ground here in the tv mines.
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ApathyGifted posted:Richard is unable to speak coherent sentences when he's stressed until he reaches a breaking point, then he's on point. See: negotiating Jack out of firing them and getting to work on the platform last episode. Anyway, I thought it was great when the sales team that had lacrosse in their website bios were playing office lacrosse. And that Jared doesn't know his own birthday so it might as well be today 
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So when Gilfoyle destroyed that hard drive does that mean that all of Dinesh's work is gone? or did he make a backup first? Silicon Valley Season 3: "Monica, do you really need to be here?"
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red19fire posted:So when Gilfoyle destroyed that hard drive does that mean that all of Dinesh's work is gone? or did he make a backup first? What do you think?
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Enderzero posted:It's not hard guys. The creators have said that as soon as Pied Piper wins the show will be boring because there's no conflict. They have to be perpetual underdogs or the magic is gone. This is how it has to be when you don't know how long the show will air - if they win too soon you'll have multiple seasons where they have nothing significant to do. The real problem is some sort you identify so strongly with the team that you want them to succeed so seeing these constant halting steps is going to drive you nuts. Just enjoy the comedy, the plot is absolutely secondary. Oh come on the show's producers are saving the PP success story for the big budget movie that will come after the tv series run has ended.
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Binary Logic posted:RIGBY that's even more stupid. He can't speak when he's stressed but then when stressed more he can speak again. Because reasons. Maybe there's Popeye Spinach in the fresh pressed juice Erlich gives him to drink. The breaking point I was talking about was not a stress thing, it was a "had enough of this poo poo" thing. Richard is non-confrontational as all hell so he stutters and misspeaks constantly from second guessing if he's being too forceful or making things worse when he's in a conflict. Then someone steps on him enough that he's pushed past the "gently caress this clown" point and lets loose. Half the young engineers I know, including the early-20's me, are like this. He's not actually nervous during the non-confrontational phase, if you pay close attention you can see he's actually constantly pulling himself back from just going on a rant. The only times he's really been nervous were basically during season 1, up until the climactic presentation. ApathyGifted fucked around with this message at 14:04 on May 25, 2016 |
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