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Pretty much, but the USAF will not buy new F-15s. Edit: They cost about as much as we'd have paid for F-22s had the 381 order been upheld.
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ded posted:Wouldn't those old f-15c be in need of new airframes too? Everyone knows the only realistic option for air superiority is bootstrapping our existing -C model fleet to backstop the Raptors. Which means everyone knows and accepts we're going to have to, at a minimum, do a structural SLEP at some point. It's just a question of how many other toys we hang on the airframe when we do that (we're already putting V3 radars on the rest of the fleet, there's the Talon HATE datalink, new EW suite, the quad-pack missile racks, etc)
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ded posted:Wouldn't those old f-15c be in need of new airframes too? Beat me. "Lets strap all this heavy poo poo to an old airframe and set it to dubstep. Someone will buy it"
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May 26, 2016 01:13
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Two of the three keywords were Affordable and Timely. Looks like they've got their unattainable ideas in order...
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VALALLAH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm8MjK2zyQo
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iyaayas01 posted:Everyone knows the only realistic option for air superiority is bootstrapping our existing -C model fleet to backstop the Raptors. Which means everyone knows and accepts we're going to have to, at a minimum, do a structural SLEP at some point. It's just a question of how many other toys we hang on the airframe when we do that (we're already putting V3 radars on the rest of the fleet, there's the Talon HATE datalink, new EW suite, the quad-pack missile racks, etc) Is that really more economical than some hypothetical factory-new improved F-15 version?
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Man, gently caress Dick Cheney
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aphid_licker posted:Is that really more economical than some hypothetical factory-new improved F-15 version? That's not the point. If it's a new build its going to be a 35 or perhaps - a very slim chance a 22.
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aphid_licker posted:Is that really more economical than some hypothetical factory-new improved F-15 version? Probably. If they were to crank out new F-15s with these features it would probably cost $135M apiece. But the big problem with buying new F-15s is that it completely fucks over any modernization effort. You can kiss the sixth-gen program goodbye for at least 15 more years because Congress simply will not do both. Three loving fighter jet programs for the USAF? That's hilarious.
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Godholio posted:Probably. If they were to crank out new F-15s with these features it would probably cost $135M apiece. But the big problem with buying new F-15s is that it completely fucks over any modernization effort. You can kiss the sixth-gen program goodbye for at least 15 more years because Congress simply will not do both. Three loving fighter jet programs for the USAF? That's hilarious. In the 50s and 60s they were swapping out airframes every 6 years. Multirole killed cool airplanes
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So did costs. That helped drive mergers from a couple dozen down to three loving companies, which only made it worse.
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its pretty simple really. shitbarn the F35 and hello new F15s
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go3 posted:its pretty simple really. shitbarn the F35 and hello new F15s shit_that_wont_happen.txt
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May 26, 2016 23:41
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But that new F15 doesn't look cool enough for the next Transformers movie.
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Blind Rasputin posted:But that new F15 doesn't look cool enough for the next Transformers movie. It would not surprise me one loving bit if that was literally an actual defense used in a congressional hearing on the F35
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May 27, 2016 01:35
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NSFL if you're not into landscaping videos where some running ISIS dude gets a water feature installed via bullet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEDLbpMYVNk
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Mr. Showtime posted:NSFL if you're not into landscaping videos where some running ISIS dude gets a water feature installed via bullet. Wow that dude did not give a single gently caress
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May 27, 2016 03:26
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Omg that guy is literally posturing right before our eyes. Made for pretty good cover though.
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I'm the guy loading mags from loose cartridges under fire, while using my buddy as cover while he bleeds out.
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ISIS full of buddy fuckers
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Booblord Zagats posted:ISIS full of buddy fuckers Kind of by definition.
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Godholio posted:Kind of by definition. They gently caress two kinds of kids, too
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come onnnnnnnnn Isis flag with a blue falcon on it
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Mr. Showtime posted:NSFL if you're not into landscaping videos where some running ISIS dude gets a water feature installed via bullet. mashallah bruddah 
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MrYenko posted:I'm the guy loading mags from loose cartridges under fire, while using my buddy as cover while he bleeds out. He might've been able to save himself some time if he checked homeboy for some already loaded mags. Though I'm betting since that video is online his fate was shortly after homeboy's.
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filmed on a genuine Go Amateur
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Mike-o posted:come onnnnnnnnn Isis flag with a blue falcon on it
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Anyone still have the picture of some poor fuckers PIV card encased in riveted sheet aluminum?
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thank u 4 surving.
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rename thread DaMothaFuckinShareZone
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.....floooooOOOOOOOOOOR
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Zeris posted:rename thread DaMothaFuckinShareZone
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same gave all
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Mad Dragon posted:same gave all you and I are the last people on earth who know how to read cursive
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