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Goddamn Particle
Oct 10, 2013

Fan of Britches

Drunk Nerds posted:

Could someone translate the above post from Engljsh to American, for me? Tia

Rentokill is a pest control company, so it's a not-very-clever way of calling the victims vermin. I wonder where these edgelords get their stuff printed, and if any companies refuse.

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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Drunk Nerds posted:

Could someone translate the above post from Engljsh to American, for me? Tia

a guy wore a douchebag t-shirt celebrating the deaths of innocents and got arrested and the internet is trolling him

That Damn Satyr
Nov 4, 2008

A connoisseur of fine junk
In what crazy world do you get arrested for wearing a shirt.

OH RIGHT SORRY MURRICAN PRIVILEGE SPEAKING. :allears:

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

That drat Satyr posted:

In what crazy world do you get arrested for wearing a shirt.

OH RIGHT SORRY MURRICAN PRIVILEGE SPEAKING. :allears:

well if you wear a t-shirt that says fire in the middle of a crowd

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Kaizoku posted:

well if you wear a t-shirt that says fire in the middle of a crowd

You might end up in hot water.

Josef K. Sourdust
Jul 16, 2014

"To be quite frank, Platinum sucks at making games. Vanquish was terrible and Metal Gear Rising: Revengance was so boring it put me to sleep."

Brain chemistry snippet. Heard a short piece on BBC radio about Parkinson's medication causing weird side effects. One was uncontrallable gambling addiction. So regular, family guy in his 60s suddenly develops an irresistible addiction to online gambling and ruins the family's finances and loses their house. Another side effect of the medication is that it causes uncontrallable sex arousal and addiction. Tales of guys in their 70s pestering their wives for sex, visiting prostitutes and hooked on online porn.

I know it sounds like the set up to a punchline but it's true.

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:

Josef K. Sourdust posted:

Brain chemistry snippet. Heard a short piece on BBC radio about Parkinson's medication causing weird side effects. One was uncontrallable gambling addiction. So regular, family guy in his 60s suddenly develops an irresistible addiction to online gambling and ruins the family's finances and loses their house. Another side effect of the medication is that it causes uncontrallable sex arousal and addiction. Tales of guys in their 70s pestering their wives for sex, visiting prostitutes and hooked on online porn.

I know it sounds like the set up to a punchline but it's true.

Yeah, you're probably thinking of Dopamine dysregulation syndrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_dysregulation_syndrome

quote:

The most common symptom is craving for dopaminergic medication. However other behavioral symptoms can appear independently of craving or co-occur with it.[4] Craving is an intense impulse of the subject to obtain medication even in the absence of symptoms that indicate its intake.[4] To fulfill this need the person will self-administer extra doses. When self-administration is not possible, aggressive outbursts or the use of strategies such as symptom simulation or bribery to access additional medication can also appear.[4]

Hypomania, manifesting with feelings of euphoria, omnipotence, or grandiosity, are prone to appear in those moments when medication effects are maximum; while dysphoria, characterized by sadness, psychomotor slowing, fatigue or apathy; are typical with DRT withdrawal.[4] Different impulse control disorders have been described including gambling, compulsive shopping, eating disorders and hypersexuality.[4] Behavioral disturbances; most commonly aggressive tendencies are the norm. Psychosis is also common.[4]

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

That drat Satyr posted:

In what crazy world do you get arrested for wearing a shirt.

OH RIGHT SORRY MURRICAN PRIVILEGE SPEAKING. :allears:

In America he’d get beaten and the culprits would mysteriously go unpunished.

Phyzzle
Jan 26, 2008

Vladimir Poutine posted:

Yeah, you're probably thinking of Dopamine dysregulation syndrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_dysregulation_syndrome
a dysfunction of the reward system observed in some individuals taking dopaminergic medications for an extended length of time. . . . Craving is an intense impulse of the subject to obtain medication even in the absence of symptoms that indicate its intake.[4] To fulfill this need the person will self-administer extra doses. When self-administration is not possible, aggressive outbursts or the use of strategies such as symptom simulation or bribery to access additional medication can also appear.[4]

Hypomania, manifesting with feelings of euphoria, omnipotence, or grandiosity, are prone to appear in those moments when medication effects are maximum; while dysphoria, characterized by sadness, psychomotor slowing, fatigue or apathy; are typical with DRT withdrawal.[4]

So . . . Parkinson drugs are basically cocaine?

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

Phyzzle posted:

So . . . Parkinson drugs are basically cocaine?

Dopamine is crazy poo poo. It's a neurotransmitter that controls or regulates a ton of different functions, one of which is reward-motivated behavior.

Parkinson's is caused by a problem with dopamine production or allocation so treatment requires medication that counteracts that. This of course means that the meds could also gently caress up the reward pathway, leading to those issues.

The scary part is that you're right to some extent. Highly addictive drugs such as cocaine interfere with reward chemistry in a similar way.

Caramaline
Aug 4, 2006

Takin' a dirt nap with baby Jesus

Josef K. Sourdust posted:

Brain chemistry snippet. Heard a short piece on BBC radio about Parkinson's medication causing weird side effects. One was uncontrallable gambling addiction. So regular, family guy in his 60s suddenly develops an irresistible addiction to online gambling and ruins the family's finances and loses their house. Another side effect of the medication is that it causes uncontrallable sex arousal and addiction. Tales of guys in their 70s pestering their wives for sex, visiting prostitutes and hooked on online porn.

I know it sounds like the set up to a punchline but it's true.

This happened to a family friend. She was diagnosed with Parkinson's and prescribed this medication. The side effects most commonly manifest as gambling addiction, but she was in school at the time and they didn't realize it was an issue until she was doing homework and studying 22 hours a day. She's married and has children and literally ignored everything in her life other than school work until she went off the medication.

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
Back to the 'reform school'/child torture centers for a minute, here's a tremendously aggravating article by a woman who literally drugged her daughter unconscious and paid $16k for total strangers to drag her from their house and hold her captive at a bootcamp in the Utah desert for a month and a half, explaining how this was totally morally correct and the best decision she ever made, and how it saved her daughter from a life of delinquency and/or being a hair stylist.

quote:

On a weekend visit, it struck me how much he’d changed and how my daughter would benefit from the same intensive treatment.

But I had to act fast. Her beauty school fees were due the coming Saturday. And, legally, I had control over her only while she was still under 18.

quote:

We hugged and cried. She was back to the daughter I knew, the one without the attitude.

fizzymercury
Aug 18, 2011

quote:

Both my kids joke that I’m a psycho mom, but they forgave me and we remain close.


Holy poo poo that woman is delusional if she thinks they're joking. That article is more about a woman justifying her personality disorder than "helping" her children. She doesn't seem to realize moving across the country and sending her son off to boarding school could possibly have made her daughter change her attitude.

poo poo like this makes me shudder, how can she actually live with herself without a delusional mental illness?

fizzymercury has a new favorite as of 16:30 on May 31, 2016

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

That drat Satyr posted:

In what crazy world do you get arrested for wearing a shirt.

OH RIGHT SORRY MURRICAN PRIVILEGE SPEAKING. :allears:

quote:

A man from Worcester has been arrested by police today (Monday 30 May) after reports were received of a man wearing a t-shirt printed with offensive comments relating to the Hillsborough disaster.

The man, aged 50, was arrested by officers this morning, under Section 4a of the Public Order Act 1986, on suspicion that with intent he displayed writing which was threatening, abusive, insulting and caused harassment, alarm or distress.

Jesus. How many forums posters would we have left if that were the law in America and it were consistently enforced? I've rarely been so happy for the 1st Amendment.

Trebek
Mar 7, 2002
College Slice

Goddamn Particle posted:

Rentokill is a pest control company, so it's a not-very-clever way of calling the victims vermin. I wonder where these edgelords get their stuff printed, and if any companies refuse.

Rentokill is actually a company that rents live plants to businesses.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Phanatic posted:

Jesus. How many forums posters would we have left if that were the law in America and it were consistently enforced? I've rarely been so happy for the 1st Amendment.

What do you think would happen in the US if you walked through a Jewish area wearing a t-shirt that read "Kikes did 9/11, bring back the gas chambers"?

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!
Banned from all the good delis and hospitals

ranbo das
Oct 16, 2013


I wore a T shirt that said Giant Bomb through airport security and ended up saying bomb like 5 times while talking to my friend and nothing happened.

Probably helps that I'm white tho.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Jedit posted:

What do you think would happen in the US if you walked through a Jewish area wearing a t-shirt that read "Kikes did 9/11, bring back the gas chambers"?

You would not legally be arrested, and if you were arrested you'd have cause for a massive civil rights lawsuit because you're engaged in clearly protected speech. Brandenburg v. Ohio. It's not even a close call, it's a clearly established right and you could sue even the individual cops who arrested you and they wouldn't have any immunity.

You might be assaulted, but then the cops would arrest the people who assaulted you for breaking the law, not you for making other people distressed or angry.

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/05/antigay-preacher-carrying-deserve-rape-sign-gets-hit-bat/

Phanatic has a new favorite as of 18:51 on May 31, 2016

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer

Jedit posted:

What do you think would happen in the US if you walked through a Jewish area wearing a t-shirt that read "Kikes did 9/11, bring back the gas chambers"?

I'm not even sure that's a good analogy, that has some sort of political agenda whereas this guy is basically just lolling at a bunch of people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time and happened to like a football team he didn't. It's more like laughing at people who died in a plane explosion, or a tornado. It's pathetic. I'm not entirely certain he should have been ARRESTED for wearing it, but it is pretty mean and unpleasant thing to walk around wearing. It looks like he has a toxic online presence anyway, quite the piece of work.

I posted it mainly because Hillsborough comes up fairly frequently on this thread, and anyone who has read survivor accounts or seen the '30 for 30' documentary would probably agree that it is a pointlessly nasty thing to put on a t-shirt.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Apraxin posted:

Back to the 'reform school'/child torture centers for a minute, here's a tremendously aggravating article by a woman who literally drugged her daughter unconscious and paid $16k for total strangers to drag her from their house and hold her captive at a bootcamp in the Utah desert for a month and a half, explaining how this was totally morally correct and the best decision she ever made, and how it saved her daughter from a life of delinquency and/or being a hair stylist.

Moving halfway across the country to prevent the father from having any contact with them also suggests a personality disorder.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

Jedit posted:

What do you think would happen in the US if you walked through a Jewish area wearing a t-shirt that read "Kikes did 9/11, bring back the gas chambers"?

I guess you *might* be able to make a case that the shirt in your hypothetical is calling for violent action against Jewish people, which would not be protected speech.

But that sounds like a pretty hard sell.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Rondette posted:

I'm not even sure that's a good analogy, that has some sort of political agenda whereas this guy is basically just lolling at a bunch of people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time and happened to like a football team he didn't. It's more like laughing at people who died in a plane explosion, or a tornado. It's pathetic. I'm not entirely certain he should have been ARRESTED for wearing it, but it is pretty mean and unpleasant thing to walk around wearing. It looks like he has a toxic online presence anyway, quite the piece of work.

I posted it mainly because Hillsborough comes up fairly frequently on this thread, and anyone who has read survivor accounts or seen the '30 for 30' documentary would probably agree that it is a pointlessly nasty thing to put on a t-shirt.

Oh, it's absolutely pointlessly nasty, we're just incredibly used to pointlessly nasty t-shirts and bumper stickers. The scary thing to me is the crowdsourced revenge because of how prevalent similar shirts are in the US and how crowdsourcing can fail miserably, like with the Boston Marathon bombing.

Samfucius
Sep 8, 2010

And if you gaze long enough into a nest, the nest will gaze back into you.
Phrasing, dude.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Geniasis posted:

I guess you *might* be able to make a case that the shirt in your hypothetical is calling for violent action against Jewish people, which would not be protected speech.


Even calling for violent action is protected speech unless it's intended to and likely to incite *imminent* lawless action. Really tough to come up with a context where a T-shirt fits that bill.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
It's pretty much the stuff that Westboro Baptist Church thrives on.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

Phanatic posted:

Even calling for violent action is protected speech unless it's intended to and likely to incite *imminent* lawless action. Really tough to come up with a context where a T-shirt fits that bill.

So the shirt would have to say like, "kill all Jews! Tomorrow @ 7:15 pm. On 5th and Main. Bring explosives"?

Yeah, I can't see that actually happening.

RikkiTikkiTavi
Aug 24, 2008

This video on split-brains feels like it belongs here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfYbgdo8e-8

Wildeyes
Nov 3, 2011
It's my fault for checking out a book called "Death in Yellowstone," but this is one of the more disturbing deaths I've read about.

quote:

It is a mystery why anyone would dive head first into a Yellowstone hot spring merely to save a dog, but that is precisely what happened on July 20, 1981. David Allen Kirwan, 24, of La Canada, California and his friend Ronald Ratliff, 25, of Thousand Oaks, parked their truck at Yellowstone's Fountain Paint Pot parking lot at around one o'clock that afternoon. While the men looked at the hot springs, Ratliff's dog "Moosie," a large mastiff or great dane, escaped from the vehicle and jumped into nearby Celestine Pool, a hot spring later measured at 202 degrees fahrenheit. The dog began yelping, and someone nearby quipped, "Oh, look, the poor thing!"

Kirwan and Ratliff rushed to the spring and stood on the edge of it. Ratliff and another bystander both saw that Kirwan was preparing to go into the spring, and the bystander yelled, "Don't go in there!" Kirwan yelled back, "Like hell I won't!" Several more people yelled not to go in, but Kirwan took two steps into the pool then dove head first into the boiling water.

One witness described it as a flying, swimming-pool-type dive. Visitor Earl Welch of Anniston, Alabama, saw Kirwan actually swim to the dog and attempt to take it to shore, go completely under water again, then released the dog, and begin trying to climb out. Ronald Ratliff pulled Kirwan from the spring, sustaining second degree burns to his feet.

Welch saw Kirwan appear to stagger backwards, so the visitor hastened to him and said, "Give me your hand." Kirwan offered his hand, and Welch directed, "Come to the sidewalk." As they moved slowly toward the walk, Kirwan managed to say, "That was stupid. How bad am I?" Welch tried to reassure him, and before they reached the walkway Kirwan again spoke softly, "That was a stupid thing I did."

Welch was suddenly overwhelmed with the feeling that he was walking with a corpse. He could see that Kirwan's entire body was badly burned as the skin was already peeling off. It seemed to Welch that Kirwan was blind, for his eyes appeared totally white.

Another man ran up, began to remove one of Kirwan's shoes, and the men watched horrified as the skin came off with it. "Don't do that!" said Welch, and Kirwan responded very tiredly, "It doesn't matter." Near the spring, rangers found two large pieces of skin shaped like human hands.

Kirwan experienced third degree burns over one hundred percent of his body, including his entire head. He was taken to the clinic at Old Faithful, where a burn specialist who was coincidentally on duty could do little for him other than to pump in IV fluids at a high rate. Bob Carnes, a ranger who saw him at the clinic, remembers thinking that Kirwan did not have a chance for survival. "He was blind and most of his skin was coming off." Ratliff's dog died in the pool and was not rescued. Oils from its body later made the hot spring have small eruptions. Kirwan died the following morning in a Salt Lake City hospital.


I mean, it's an incredibly stupid, self-induced death (Heroic attempted rescue of friend's dog aside, why would anyone dive into boiling water, much less HEAD-FIRST?), but good god, there's something about going blind before dying that is that much more horrifying.

Wildeyes has a new favorite as of 00:42 on Jun 1, 2016

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

He did it without thinking. It's very easy to want to save a dog that's howling in agony.

FireWorksWell
Nov 27, 2014

Let's go do some hero shit!


Wildeyes posted:

It's my fault for checking out a book called "Death in Yellowstone," but this is one of the more disturbing deaths I've read about.



I mean, it's an incredibly stupid, self-induced death (Heroic attempted rescue of friend's dog aside, why would anyone dive into boiling water, much less HEAD-FIRST?), but good god, there's something about going blind before dying that is that much more horrifying.

That's the most depressing thing I've read in months.

That Damn Satyr
Nov 4, 2008

A connoisseur of fine junk
I was being sarcastic with my comment, but hey - discussion!

Bonster
Mar 3, 2007

Keep rolling, rolling

Wildeyes posted:

It's my fault for checking out a book called "Death in Yellowstone," but this is one of the more disturbing deaths I've read about.



I mean, it's an incredibly stupid, self-induced death (Heroic attempted rescue of friend's dog aside, why would anyone dive into boiling water, much less HEAD-FIRST?), but good god, there's something about going blind before dying that is that much more horrifying.

That's a good book, by the way. Some of it's tough to read, but people get creative about dying out there.

ETA: As to why, people just don't comprehend how hot it is. We're not used to scalding hot water coming out of the ground, and people don't understand the danger.

Bonster has a new favorite as of 00:45 on Jun 1, 2016

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Geniasis posted:

So the shirt would have to say like, "kill all Jews! Tomorrow @ 7:15 pm. On 5th and Main. Bring explosives"?

Yeah, I can't see that actually happening.

Again, *likely* to incite. You're not going to incite a pogrom by wearing the shirt you describe anywhere, let alone in Crown Heights.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out
I don't think the person who said, "Oh, no, the poor thing" about a dog simultaneously drowning and scalding was quipping, author of Death in Yellowstone.

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone
Have a terrible old crime.

https://georgianera.wordpress.com/2015/10/13/crimes-of-the-clergy-the-rev-septimus-hodson/

quote:


On Christmas Day 1808, Miss Fanny Chapman wrote in her diary the following entry:

"Mrs Porcher in a letter to Cooper tells him it is reported in London that Mrs Fenwick is going to be married to Mr Hodgson, the infamous seducer of many of the girls at the Asylum some years ago!!!"

This somewhat vague but tantalizing comment needed further investigation to establish more about this ‘infamous seducer’ but the chances of finding him seemed like a mammoth task and possibly not one worth pursuing until now. George and Amanda (custodians of Fanny Chapman’s diaries) recently began looking at a will that provided some clues as to his identity and to cut a long story short, they have tracked him down, so it seems only right to correct Fanny’s spelling of his name (it was Hodson) and then to ‘name and shame’ him. So here we go with a grizzly, if not unfamiliar story.

Septimus Hodson was born 17th February 1763, the son of Rev. Robert Hodson and his wife Mary in Huntingdonshire. He was educated at Caius College, Cambridge after which he was ordained into the priesthood.

Having found his parents and education we began to look for any potential marriages for him. The first marriage we came across took place when he would have been under the age of 21! The Marriage Act, 1753 did allow couples under 21 to marry by Banns, as in this case, either with parents consent or if the parents did not forbid it.


This was to be a very short marriage as Ann Hodson née Bell was buried at St Mary with St Benedict Church, Huntingdon on the 14th May 1784.
A little under two years later on the 15th March 1786 Septimus married Miss Charlotte Affleck, the daughter of Rev W. Affleck, who conducted the ceremony at All Saints Church in Stamford, Lincolnshire.
On the 7th March 1788 he became a preacher at Tavistock Chapel, Broad Court near Drury Lane, amongst his duties he was appointed Chaplain-in-ordinary to George, Prince of Wales.

Septimus and Charlotte produced 5 children during this time, Charlotte (1790), William (1791), Charles Phillip (1793), Robert Eyres (1795) and finally Gilbert (1796).

This extract from The Aldine Magazine of Biography, Bibliography, Criticisms and the Arts of 1838 provides quite a picture of contented domesticity and to a certain extent ignores what was to follow apart from a reference to Septimus being accused of plagiarism!

" Never shall I forget calling on the above mentioned gentleman, upwards of forty years since, on behalf of a poor country curate who was anxious to come to London on literary pursuits, and to fill the situation of assistant reader, then vacant at the Asylum. I was introduced to the Rev. Mr. Hodson, in his peculiarly neat and handsome apartments, where his accomplished and beautiful wife, and I think the finest family of children I ever saw, were partaking of a dessert. He politely asked me to partake, and pressed me to take wine, which I did; and from his easy and graceful manner, his handsome form and figure, and animated countenance, added to those of his smiling cherubs of children, on whom my eyes were fixed, I thought I never witnessed so much conjugal happiness and domestic felicity in my life."

By 1789 he had been given the living of Thrapston in Northamptonshire. He had also been appointed chaplain to the Orphan Asylum, Westminster Road, in the parish of Lambeth. This is the point at which the horrors of his actions became clear and for once we do put a serious warning – this account from 1823 is reported as being true and if so it is quite distressing

"VILE ACTIONS OF THE REVEREND SEPTIMUS HODSON

Child violator, formerly Chaplain to the Orphan Asylum, Westminster Road.

“Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not.”

The Asylum of which Mr. Hodson was an unworthy Chaplain, educates and provides for numerous female Orphans, who otherwise would be consigned to lives of infamy and ruin.

Mr. Hodson was celebrated as a preacher, and noted for the uncommon sanctity of his manners; he had a fine person, and always assumed such a sincerity of heart in delivering his exhortations from the pulpit, that the chapel was crowded to an overflow whenever he preached; but alas! he was fair without and foul within. The Monk of Lewis’s novel was not more infamous, and whilst outwardly attending to the salvation of the helpless Orphan’s souls he was inwardly meditating the ruin of both body and soul.

From his situation, he had access to the Orphans, at all hours, and a little child, named Fox, about thirteen years of age, was selected by him for the object of depraved debauchery.

In fact he violated the hapless Orphan’s person; to call it by the name of seduction would be untruth: for surely a child at her time of life could only be a passive instrument in the hands of one, whom she had been taught to look up to with fearful obedience.

The pregnancy of Fox, as a natural consequence of illicit intercourse, ensued, and she, most probably tutored by the artful and lustful priest, delivered herself in a certain office in the chapel yard; and there left the infant, which she imagined would never be heard of.

Suspicions, however, were immediately awakened, and the infant was found, and as a natural effect of contrition and fear, Fox pointed out the father of her offspring. The Governors and Committee were horror struck at the Reverend Divine’s hypocrisy and depravity; but they had no power to punish him beyond dismissing him from his office, and striking his name from the list of Chaplains, which was instantly done, in as marked a manner as possible.

The Reverend Violator, incredible as it may appear, was suffered to retain his gown; and we cannot help reflecting that the good Bishop Porteus, then in charge of the Metropolitan see, must have been very strangely misinformed respecting this hideous transaction, or he would never have permitted the criminal to escape with impunity.

Mr. Hodson now resides on his living at Thrapston in Northamptonshire; we are sorry for it, he merits the severest punishment; penitence, it is true, can atone for any crime, but few repent in affluence and prosperity; it is poverty and obscurity, disgrace and obloquy, that wring the sinner’s soul, and make him sensible of all he has lost upon earth, and the little he has to hope for in heaven.

Such corrupt pillars only for a time uphold a fabric by deceitful support that it may fall unexpectedly with more tremendous ruin: and they should be at once levelled with the ground, never more, to rise in a conspicuous situation.

If we hear anything more of this fortunate sinner, it shall be recorded; such a person cannot remain long in obscurity; success will throw him off his guard at last, and the punishment so long delayed come with tenfold vengeance on his head, when the stings of a guilty conscience are made additionally severe by the bodily pangs of old age."



We did, of course, wonder what happened to Miss Fox; did she survive this horrific experience and what became of her?

The answer appeared in The Morning Post and Gazetteer of 26th January 1801:

" The girl that was seduced by Septimus Hodson at the Asylum is now married to a gentleman of about seven thousand a year, and now goes regularly to the asylum, every Sunday in her own carriage."

This report was not quite accurate and later revision was published in the Salisbury and Winchester Journal, 2nd February 1801

The statement in the Papers respecting the Asylum Girl of the name of Fox, who was so basely seduced by a late Chaplain of that Charity, is erroneous. She is neither married to a Gentleman of 7000l. per annum, nor attends the Asylum every Sunday in her own carriage, because she has succeeded no more to the one than the other:- but, from her exemplary conduct, she has wedded a widower near Barnet, who is possessed of about 500l. per annum, with whom, and his amiable family by a former wife, she now partakes of a domestic felicity, not very frequently enjoyed."

The Monthly Visitor and Entertaining Pocket Companion, Volume 12 described Miss Fox as ‘the asylum warbler’ but so far we haven’t managed to track down her marriage. She was noted as a beauty, and had received offers of marriage from several gentleman before the Reverend Hodson debauched her (which does suggest that she was older than thirteen years). She was retained as a singer in the Chapel, and contemporary newspaper reports give the information that the child was not born alive but Miss Fox suffered a miscarriage. It was during this traumatic event and whilst she feared that she was dying that she gave the information which proved the Reverend’s guilt (no-one had suspected she was pregnant until she lost the child).

" The girl is an orphan, bred up from infancy in the charity, and afterwards articled to it as a singing girl. She is very pretty, and rather of a gay than grave appearance; and has had several offers of marriage. A gentleman of property has solicited her hand."

(Ipswich Journal, 14th October, 1797)


On the other hand we find that by the 14th March 1809 Septimus had been widowed and had married again, his next wife being Frances Fenwick, the widowed daughter of G. Burden. The service was performed in Doncaster, Yorkshire again by his father-in-law, Rev Affleck. Frances was the one referred to in Fanny’s Diary.

This marriage proved to be a financially lucrative one for Septimus as his wife had inherited the Bywell estate in Northumberland from her late husband and upon her death it transferred to Septimus, who then sold it for £145,000.

Then finally, at All Saints South Kirkby, near Wakefield, Yorkshire on the 16th October 1826 he married once more, his final spouse being Margaret Holford, author; her most successful work was a historical verse romance entitled Wallace, or, The Fight of Falkirk. She was also a good friend of Robert Southey and another close associate of hers was Joanna Baillie, a Scottish poet and dramatist.

Hodson was to die on the 12th December 1833 in his seventy first year. The inscription of his grave at St John the Evangelist, Sharow, near Ripon, Yorkshire reads:

" Sacred to the memory of the Revd.Septimus Hodson late Rector of Thrapston in the county of Northampton And Perpetual Curate of Little Raveley In Huntingdonshire. He died on the 12th day of December AD 1833 In the seventy first year of his age. His widow offers this poor brief tribute To his beloved memory ‘I shall go to him, but he will not return to me’."

He left £1500 in his will (about £75,000 in today’s money) to his wife, so despite this shocking incident in his life he appears to have married well, produced several children and lived an enjoyable life, we can only hope the same was true for Miss Fox. Was it all true about Miss Fox, we really don’t know so we will leave it for you to draw your own conclusion.

I have to wonder what his second wife was thinking.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Apraxin posted:

Back to the 'reform school'/child torture centers for a minute, here's a tremendously aggravating article by a woman who literally drugged her daughter unconscious and paid $16k for total strangers to drag her from their house and hold her captive at a bootcamp in the Utah desert for a month and a half, explaining how this was totally morally correct and the best decision she ever made, and how it saved her daughter from a life of delinquency and/or being a hair stylist.

Reminds me of the documentay "Kidnapped for Christ". Essentially, parents sign up for their kids to be dragged from their beds at night and flown to a private island where Jesus camp poo poo goes down. Highly recommended, for the unnerving factor.

U.T. Raptor
May 11, 2010

Are you a pack of imbeciles!?

Wildeyes posted:

It's my fault for checking out a book called "Death in Yellowstone," but this is one of the more disturbing deaths I've read about.



I mean, it's an incredibly stupid, self-induced death (Heroic attempted rescue of friend's dog aside, why would anyone dive into boiling water, much less HEAD-FIRST?), but good god, there's something about going blind before dying that is that much more horrifying.
I have that book, that's a good book.

There's also similar books about Yosemite and the Grand Canyon ("Off the Wall: Death in Yosemite" and "Over the Edge: Death in Grand Canyon" respectively), they're also good and everyone in the thread should read them.

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


If I was king for a day I'd see all those child kidnap torture camp people, the people who do the kidnapping, and the parents, all swing. There's little in the world that makes me quite so angry.

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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

FirstPersonShitter posted:

If I was king for a day I'd see all those child kidnap torture camp people, the people who do the kidnapping, and the parents, all swing. There's little in the world that makes me quite so angry.

i would not kill te parents because they are often lied to about what the camp entails in order to get the money

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