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I'm wondering if I should chase after goshawk II 4 in 1936 (by landing right behind it, firing everything, and kicking it), or head up the hill some more and snipe at things with my cLPL (because of the lucerne having ACE).
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Ouch. Although it didn't actually affect my combat capability.
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May 30, 2016 17:14
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:Hey PTN, I'm pretty sure in my orders I specified firing only the er large and medium pulse laser since I didn't want the hit to my move mod from overheat. Am I mistaken? poo poo, I'll double-check and fix it when I get home. If I hosed it up, you'll still have shot both lasers but one of them was heat-free so you won't be overheating.
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May 30, 2016 17:22
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AtomikKrab posted:So that peregrine was mint, until it looked at the atlas funny and then it suddenly no longer had a torso connecting any of the other bits. Much like a mint Goshawk II was dandy until a laser followed a dead center UAC/20 shot to nuke its innards. Maybe not as impressive as a single shot, but Gooncompany has gone two straight rounds of taking down pristine mechs with just one mech's efforts. (Also, I'm still proud of that dice-cooperation moment.)
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May 30, 2016 18:25
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I feel like Jason needs perpetual smoke rounds on him too now, if he's not going to withdraw. 2 structure left on the head means basically anything can kill him.
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May 30, 2016 21:38
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vorebane posted:I feel like Jason needs perpetual smoke rounds on him too now, if he's not going to withdraw. 2 structure left on the head means basically anything can kill him. Reminder that the Salamander only has 3 smoke rounds remaining.
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May 30, 2016 21:47
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vorebane posted:I feel like Jason needs perpetual smoke rounds on him too now, if he's not going to withdraw. 2 structure left on the head means basically anything can kill him. That guy should never be closer than 14 hexes to anyone ever again.
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May 30, 2016 21:48
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vorebane posted:I feel like Jason needs perpetual smoke rounds on him too now, if he's not going to withdraw. 2 structure left on the head means basically anything can kill him. They're incendiaries, so that would probably be a bad idea.
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May 30, 2016 22:16
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Screw it, Jason'll never get a rep as a cool ace mechwarrior if he doesn't keep mixing it up while in extreme danger. Just max out his move mod and carry on fighting! That Wolverine's taunting you by refusing to go down! Is there a chance the Clanners will ignore the Stag so long as the pilot's knocked out? Because of honor/glory-seeking and more pressing, alive targets? Because he's a little out-there if you guys were to try and defend his downed mech, and as-is this is a good time for continuing to run away. Speaking of running away, what is the Gunsmith doing exactly? I thought they were going to go after that Goshawk but they're really running off on their own up there. If they're planning to come around behind the heavy star that seems incredibly risky, especially as long as that ace Lucerne is following behind and can choose to stop, turn and vaporize them at any point.
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May 30, 2016 23:05
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PoptartsNinja posted:poo poo, I'll double-check and fix it when I get home. If I hosed it up, you'll still have shot both lasers but one of them was heat-free so you won't be overheating. not wanting to be that guy, but my orders were quote:REVISED MOVEMENT ORDER: jump to 0935, twist to face 0834 The Grasshopper is heat neutral with all its forward guns, so I meant the XLPL and the 4x ML. I'll be clearer next time, and specify the actual mech rather than the hex.
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May 31, 2016 00:53
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sebmojo posted:not wanting to be that guy, but my orders were Grasshopper - Torso-twists to threaten hex 0834! - Fires Large X-Pulse Laser at Wolverine IIC (4 base + 0 range + 3 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 heavy rain - 2 pulse laser = 8): rolled 8, hit Center Torso (15/23 armor remaining)! - Fires Medium Laser at Wolverine IIC (4 base + 2 range + 3 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 heavy rain = 12): rolled 7, miss! - Fires Medium Laser at Wolverine IIC (4 base + 2 range + 3 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 heavy rain = 12): rolled 6, miss! - Fires Medium Laser at Wolverine IIC (4 base + 2 range + 3 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 heavy rain = 12): rolled 8, miss! - Fires Medium Laser at Wolverine IIC (4 base + 2 range + 3 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 heavy rain = 12): rolled 4, miss! - Gains 30 heat, sinks 30!  Sorry I missed the contingency, I must've failed to grab it when I copy/pasted your orders into my orders document. It happens sometimes when I'm tired and don't double-check what I'm grabbing. I promise it's never malicious! PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 01:14 on May 31, 2016 |
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May 31, 2016 01:06
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Nothing is malicious by intent, but that doesn't stop the fluff from making it sound so. Like these Goshawks trying to get all up in the Dragoon II again. Or that one Goshawk jumping while prone and therefore in my head-canon trying to deliver a dropkick on our Dadlas and falling short to much shame and chagrin. (Which, really, works out better for what I hope to be the Turn of Goshawk Murder.) The latter is malicious by IC intent but hilarious in actual portrayal, obviously.
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May 31, 2016 01:30
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May 31, 2016 01:40
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Also, the Chameleon's not overheating.
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So I'm thinking of running to 0638 and continuing to try to get backshots on the wolverine. Any other suggestions?
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May 31, 2016 04:30
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Someone needs to start thinking about keeping that tunnel clean of infantry.
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May 31, 2016 06:49
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Affi posted:Someone needs to start thinking about keeping that tunnel clean of infantry.
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May 31, 2016 07:27
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Affi posted:Someone needs to start thinking about keeping that tunnel clean of infantry. Someone needs to hold the door, you say?
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May 31, 2016 08:40
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Which hex is the prone goshawk in - I had a little trouble figuring that out. Sadly it's not the goshawk near me or I'd goomba stomp that thing.
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May 31, 2016 08:52
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Alchenar posted:Someone needs to hold the door, you say? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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May 31, 2016 09:02
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mcjomar posted:Which hex is the prone goshawk in - I had a little trouble figuring that out. The one with the blue shoulder pads in 1334.
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May 31, 2016 09:50
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Gwaihir posted:Couple good options for GoonMercs: anyone want to kibitz this set of moves? I'm happy to guard the Atlas if I have enough moves with MASC to get there. Torso twists are free, aren't they?
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May 31, 2016 10:30
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Gwaihir posted:Atlas is in prime position to be a royal pain: Moving to 0931, facing 1030, unloading PPCS and HGR at the Nidhogg, and kicking the Stooping Hawk (potential one shot). The Grasshopper would need to move up as well to 0830, otherwise the Ace Lucerne hawk hunter would be able to run right down and go for a head kick against the Atlas. The grasshopper right there would protect him from kicks and backshots though. It might be better for the Atlas to target the Copperhead instead. It would still be in short range with its PPCs and won't be taking any minimum range penalties with its HGR, plus we know the Copperhead walked while the Nidhogg may have jumped. It's easier to hit and has less armour to boot.
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May 31, 2016 11:24
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But that would involve getting shot in the back and then be surrounded more easily than the other move would be (which still risks the same, but the jumpers and strong enemies are mostly on the right).
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May 31, 2016 13:13
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Scintilla posted:It might be better for the Atlas to target the Copperhead instead. It would still be in short range with its PPCs and won't be taking any minimum range penalties with its HGR, plus we know the Copperhead walked while the Nidhogg may have jumped. It's easier to hit and has less armour to boot. Yea, copperhead is a great target too, especially if the gunsmith also goes for it.
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May 31, 2016 13:30
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Scintilla posted:The one with the blue shoulder pads in 1334. Okay, that's miles away then. The goshawk II 4 in 1936 Is the nearest to me, which I can either land right behind, or try to shoot from up the hill. The lucerne concerns me though - ACE!
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May 31, 2016 13:36
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I hadn't noticed the dog-river has ceased to keep the door open.
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RA Rx posted:But that would involve getting shot in the back and then be surrounded more easily than the other move would be (which still risks the same, but the jumpers and strong enemies are mostly on the right). I didn't mean for him to stand still, but to do what Gwaihir suggested and move to 0931 and face the Stooping Hawk. In that case he'll be hitting on 7s for all his big guns. If he did stay still he'd be hitting on 5s, but it'd be more of a risk and wouldn't let him potentially leg the Stooping Hawk after firing.
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mcjomar posted:Okay, that's miles away then. I'm not sure that it's worth going directly behind it, you trade a potential kick for being at short range for the micro pulses on the ERLL arm. You can keep all your weapons at short range by running to 1933 facing 1833, which also grants partial cover against the heavies (Even though it's super likely that they'll be shooting the atlas grasshopper or salamander instead of you). You could jump, too, but without much return fire threat you might like the better shots from running instead.
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The Goshawk II in 1936? Yeah, the space in 1935 is going to be occupied by the Dragoon II. Unlike others, the Dragoon II has no good option to avoid both Goshawk 5 and Goshawk II 4's micropulse sets. But heading to 1935 would drastically cut down the amount of laser fire I am taking from the pair who have set up to flank me and really carve into my safe options. And also allow me to provide a single shot UAC/20 enema alongside a justice foot to try and mission kill the Goshawk II whilst limiting the fire I take. The vast majority of other move options for me would invite backshots from either the remainder of the Goshawk Sentai Squad or, worse, the Heavy Star.
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sebmojo posted:anyone want to kibitz this set of moves? I'm happy to guard the Atlas if I have enough moves with MASC to get there. Torso twists are free, aren't they? Alright, after a chat in irc I'm going to jump to 0831, facing 0931 and unload on the pulse murderboat in 1030 which has me as its zell buddy. Good times gigantic fella, let's dance. e: just linking the doc again https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QFsYazXpGqU60EoAuAtLGB_1X9RKMVDnLC2jhBa49S0/edit#gid=659985894 sebmojo fucked around with this message at 15:43 on May 31, 2016 |
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May 31, 2016 15:38
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Champion thinking of backing into 2333 again to get short range backshots on the goshawk in 1936. Anyone need me to support them elsewhere instead?
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May 31, 2016 16:21
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Following the plan, going in to kick the guy in 1030 and unload my guns on the Copperhead Alpha.
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Corponation posted:Champion thinking of backing into 2333 again to get short range backshots on the goshawk in 1936. Anyone need me to support them elsewhere instead? I don't think you are actually hitting rear armor from there, but it's still the best shots you have , on 9s. Sitting still would be tempting fate a bit too much.
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Scintilla posted:[...] the Nidhogg may have jumped. I am not quite sure where to go with the Flashman. I am tempted to move to 1427 and justice foot the Vulture in the head, but I'm not sure if there is something better. Any ideas?
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Ardlen posted:It doesn't change much, but the Nidhogg walked. Hm, you've got a hard choice. I would not want to run that close to the Copperhead, because you'll be in range to get blapped really heavily by the Goshawk leader and his huge pulse laser battery. Other options all have various levels of "Oh dear" associated with them, but you could run to 1034 and face off against the Grendel or finish putting down the Wolverine, or there's various levels of maybe crazy by running forward straight to 0828 and shooting at the Hawk Hunter (Although you do get a +3 move mod from this, so it might turn out to actually be your safest bet). Backing up is a conservative choice, but you'd have a +1 move mod at best and that might not end well since you would be firmly in range of the other goshawks. Your armor is fine except for, unfortunately, your CT at 3 which is a problem.
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Orders in. That Goshawk in 1936 may be a pain; can someone kill the little git?
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Gladly.
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Going back to bonus chat, an actual full-on negotiation during combat is not feasible but you could probably go with something like this: "Intentionally inviting a battleship-scale bombardment on our position is not within mission scope. We'll be submitting a hefty compensation package and expect it to be fulfilled." With "hefty" being whatever Jason/Duncan (aka. PTN) deems appropriate when they're back at base.
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Doubleumc posted:Going back to bonus chat, an actual full-on negotiation during combat is not feasible but you could probably go with something like this: Meh. When you're the specific target, the difference between a battleship and a destroyer is completely irrelevant. You're hosed if you're under naval bombardment by anything.
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