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Fulchrum posted:I'm genuinely amazed I didn't hear about comic fans throwing a poo poo fit about a white male character, no matter how obscure, being rebooted as a woman of color. I'm pretty sure she's supposed to be Caucasian, just a bit dusky. Which, you're right, would usually be enough.
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Jun 1, 2016 13:53
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Hitler B. Natural posted:I'm pretty sure she's supposed to be Caucasian, just a bit dusky. Which, you're right, would usually be enough. Caldwell: To speak on her look on paper, if she was this young, attractive blond girl, this could easily veer off into the great white savior hoax. That was something that Mark obviously didn't want in this character at all. We wanted something much more nuanced. So we ended up making her a person of color to reflect that she is definitely not your average girl next door. It is also the 21st century in America and white is no longer the default color setting for a character like this.
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Jun 1, 2016 13:56
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Sir Tonk posted:Why does his Hillary look like a drat marionette? Because she's Wall Street's! 
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prefect posted:Caldwell: To speak on her look on paper, if she was this young, attractive blond girl, this could easily veer off into the great white savior hoax. That was something that Mark obviously didn't want in this character at all. We wanted something much more nuanced. So we ended up making her a person of color to reflect that she is definitely not your average girl next door. It is also the 21st century in America and white is no longer the default color setting for a character like this. Ah, never read that. Neat. It's never brought up either way in the comic as far as I remember, presumably deliberately.
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Jun 1, 2016 14:06
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there wolf posted:I know that. I was just wondering if there was something especially funny about it starting in Pittsburgh. Though granted that CMU professor also dislikes emojis
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Jun 1, 2016 14:28
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this is it. this is the worst piece of "art" i've ever seen. i refuse to believe it could get worse than this. there is always more and it is always worse 
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Jun 1, 2016 14:39
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Wow Tinsley, this isn't a very good likeness of North Carolina governor Pat McCrory, I mean McCrory isn't even black.
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Jun 1, 2016 14:51
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Jun 1, 2016 15:49
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I don't know about "power-mad"; that seems excessive.
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Jun 1, 2016 15:53
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Garrison splits the difference by giving Trump one tiny hand and one giant hand
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Jun 1, 2016 15:55
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Yeah, down with the wealthy elite! Vote Trump! Wait...
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Starshark posted:I wonder if Bok thinks America should have tougher gun laws. It says Americans have the right to bear arms, not gorilla arms!
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"Um, you'll find Trump actually has big hands" - Ben Garrison
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Jun 1, 2016 16:02
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Haha, the little Illuminati pyramid necklace on Hillary. On a similar note, I hate how Donald Trump's little epithets for his political opponents are just uncritically given a pass. "Little Marco," "Lyin' Ted," "Crooked Hillary," something about his consistently referring to people that way seems childish and has managed to lower the state of political discourse in the country even more.
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Jun 1, 2016 16:03
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That's right Lester, do you have a better idea as to what the zoo should have done? 
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Pakled posted:Haha, the little Illuminati pyramid necklace on Hillary.
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Iron Crowned posted:That's right Lester, do you have a better idea as to what the zoo should have done? I'm pretty sure this is a pro-gorilla-death cartoon actually "what happens to a gorilla matters much less than what happens to a child" essentially
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Jun 1, 2016 16:05
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Surprised we haven't seen a WHY CARE ABOUT GORILLA WHY NOT CARE ABOUT ABORTION comic yet, but the McCoys haven't weighed in yet...
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D.N. Nation posted:Surprised we haven't seen a WHY CARE ABOUT GORILLA WHY NOT CARE ABOUT ABORTION comic yet, but the McCoys haven't weighed in yet... Because the kid was black 
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Jun 1, 2016 16:12
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loquacius posted:I'm pretty sure this is a pro-gorilla-death cartoon actually Yeah but knowing Lester it can also be the tragedy is that a black child is considered worth more than an animal
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Jun 1, 2016 16:46
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Ohhh, it's happening, folks. It's happening! Stantis is starting his pivot right here, mark my words. He's going to use Hillary as the fulcrum to spin "Never Trump" into "Vote Trump", I guarantee it!
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Jun 1, 2016 16:49
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"Smart man not smart, ME smart! Me patriot, so me smart! Man who is brilliant physicist and astronomer, internationally recognized and frequently cited in scholarly papers is DUMB because he not smart... like ME!" gently caress you, Kirschen. Stick to schilling your poorly drawn Haggadah.
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Jun 1, 2016 16:54
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Surprise tree-hugger message out of Lester.
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Met posted:Surprise tree-hugger message out of Lester. Take a look at the child and realize he's saying he woulda like to seen a black child mauled to death my the gorilla
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Jun 1, 2016 17:20
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I'm surprised we haven't seen cartoons about how this is the reason we should close down zoos forever because they are evil for reasons
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Jun 1, 2016 17:22
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bunnyofdoom posted:Take a look at the child and realize he's saying he woulda like to seen a black child mauled to death my the gorilla You honestly expect me to believe that a conservative political cartoonist would see another human being as sub-human based on the color of their skin?
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Jun 1, 2016 17:24
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I don't think we should close down zoos, but we certainly shouldn't be putting gorillas on display like that, and we most definitely should not be killing the animals in them for any reason.
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Met posted:You honestly expect me to believe that a conservative political cartoonist would see another human being as sub-human based on the color of their skin? I'm going to be hearing that for the next month at my job, trust me, that is exactly what they're saying.
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Iron Crowned posted:Because the kid was black 
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Kwyndig posted:I don't think we should close down zoos, but we certainly shouldn't be putting gorillas on display like that, and we most definitely should not be killing the animals in them for any reason. I think that if an animal's a big enough threat that you have to kill it to protect someone who falls in, and it's smart enough you can't do it without remorse you shouldn't have it in a cage.
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xthetenth posted:I think that if an animal's a big enough threat that you have to kill it to protect someone who falls in, and it's smart enough you can't do it without remorse you shouldn't have it in a cage. The thing is they didn't have to kill it. If they'd staffed and responded appropriately a veterinarian could have tranquilized him. Gorillas aren't even dangerous unless provoked, it's not like they're predators, they're basically just super strong and big toddlers.
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Kwyndig posted:The thing is they didn't have to kill it. If they'd staffed and responded appropriately a veterinarian could have tranquilized him. Gorillas aren't even dangerous unless provoked, it's not like they're predators, they're basically just super strong and big toddlers. Uh, no. Tranquilizers take time to kick in, and now you've pissed off the Gorilla by shooting him with a giant loving needle.
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Did Lester ever do a single loving cartoon on Tamir Rice?
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Kwyndig posted:The thing is they didn't have to kill it. If they'd staffed and responded appropriately a veterinarian could have tranquilized him. Gorillas aren't even dangerous unless provoked, it's not like they're predators, they're basically just super strong and big toddlers. The zoo said that the gorilla would potentially be dangerous in the period between being hit by the dart and falling unconscious, which I'm inclined to believe. Also the danger of falling and crushing the boy. I'm more curious why the gorilla enclosure had bars that a four-year-old could crawl through.
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If tranquilizer darts were as safe or effective as in the movies, every policeman would carry one and ammo for humans as well as common animals.
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Stickman posted:The zoo said that the gorilla would potentially be dangerous in the period between being hit by the dart and falling unconscious, which I'm inclined to believe. Also the danger of falling and crushing the boy. I'm more curious why the gorilla enclosure had bars that a four-year-old could crawl through. Basically this, tranquilizers don't work like they do in the movies. It's not a magical instant knockout, you're going to act drunk for a while first as your body processes it. It would be longer for a gorilla, not to mention, it's not like anesthesia, where they go straight for the vein, with a dart it's just going to go wherever it hits, so it takes longer. In an environment where you have a lot of commotion around, the gorilla was already going to be agitated, and getting hit with a sharp object is just going to make things worse. I'm not really thrilled that an endangered animal died, but I think they made the right call. One thing I did learn is that zoos have sharpshooters on staff for this very reason. As for the enclosure, well modern enclosures rely on people obeying the rules in order to allow the animals at the zoos to have a better life than it was 50 years ago when they were just in essentially animal jail. You can't account for everything, and unfortunately it tends to be a process that relies on some things not being found until something happens.
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