Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/738306972034969600

Pissflaps posted:

If Corbyn is the leader at the next election I won't vote Tory, but I probably won't vote Labour either.

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/738306972034969600

MrL_JaKiri posted:

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/738320152060526594

Miftan posted:

I was mistaken, this is the best one.

Private Speech posted:

I like Pissflaps's posting and mostly agree with him (maybe not about urban youth)

Gonzo McFee posted:

If you want an Urban for a neighbour vote Labour.

Pissflaps posted:

It's funny to think that only 10 years ago both the Prime Minister and leader of the opposition's constituencies were within 20 minute's drive of where I live.

Now it's just a couple of blokes from down south. Disengaging.

Praseodymi posted:

Wasn't Cameron the leader of the opposition 10 years ago?

Private Speech posted:

Wasn't there a Hungarian prime minister named Urban or something like that?

quote:

“You don’t really know what you’re thinking. It might one little thing that sways you….I just didn’t like Ed Miliband.” Female participant

Ed Miliband came up in the women’s group as an important factor in the decision they made in 2015.

“I didn’t like him (Ed Miliband). I just think he comes across as really incompetent.” Female participant

“I couldn’t imagine him as Prime Minister; not in a million years.” Female participant

“[I voted Conservative because] Ed Miliband. Anything he was on, trying to sort of talk his way through, he was just rubbish.” Female participant

When we asked about specific policies from the last election there was silence for the most part. People brought up UKIPs platform on immigration and the EU whilst there were no real firm ideas on either Conservatives or Labour policies.

quote:

Participants were asked to consider what they would like their ideal Labour party leader to look like. The following responses came back:

“Young.” Female participant

“Someone with a family.” Female participant

“Someone who doesn’t have a silver spoon in their mouth.” Female participant

“Someone who’s come from a working class background.” Female participant

“Someone who knows what it’s like to struggle; to work hard.” Female participant

“Someone who people can trust. Someone stoic but willing to accommodate other viewpoints.” Female participant

Somewhat interestingly the female group seemed to be discussing a male leader, and when this was pointed out some remembered their negative feelings towards Mrs Thatcher as being a reason why they weren’t considering a female leader of the party.

Private Speech posted:

Wasn't there a Hungarian prime minister named Urban or something like that?

Wikipedia posted:

In 1452 he originally offered his services to the Byzantines, but emperor Constantine XI could not afford his high salary nor did he possess the materials necessary for constructing such a large siege cannon. Orban then left Constantinople and approached the Ottoman sultan Mehmed II, who was preparing to besiege the city. Claiming that his weapon could blast 'the walls of Babylon itself', Orban was given abundant funds and materials by the sultan. Orban managed to build the giant size gun within three months at Adrianople, from which it was dragged by sixty oxen to Constantinople. In the meantime, Orban also produced other smaller cannons used by the Turkish siege forces.[10]

The bombard technology, which mainly German technicians[11] designed at first for the Hungarian Army, had been established between 1400 and 1450 all over western Europe, transforming siege warfare,[12][13] with some pieces like the Faule Mette, Dulle Griet, Mons Meg and the Pumhart von Steyr which are still extant from the period. Orban, along with an entire crew, was probably killed during the siege when one of his superguns exploded, then not an unusual occurrence.[14]

dispatch_async posted:

http://election-data.co.uk/focus-groups-of-lab-con-switchers-in-nuneaton

quote:

“He looks scruffy. He never seems like he’s presentable. He looks very drawn, and like he needs a good dinner. I know he’s argumentative.” Female participant

“I know you’re hounded by the press and stuff when you walk out of somewhere, but he’s got no like grace about him, just head down quite standoff-ish.” Female participant

“If he was going to be the leader [at the next election] I wouldn’t use my vote. I’d want Labour in but with a new leader so I’d just leave my vote.” Female participant

“You want a charismatic leader and to me he’s more like Worzel Gummidge.” Female participant

“I just don’t see how he could ever persuade me. He could give me free child care and I still couldn’t vote for him” Female participant

“He’s quite anti-royal. He’s like an old schoolteacher type; you expect patches on his elbows. Male participant

“He’s scruffy. Imagine him in the White House. Like someone who got lost on the tour or something.” Male participant

“His leadership skills are questionable. He just doesn’t stand out. I think he did a lot of damage when he didn’t sing the national anthem.” Male participant

Pissflaps posted:

No prizes for guessing who they're talking about.

blowfish posted:

News at 11: the British electorate is dumb and has the attention span of a goldfish.

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

I would rather lose every general election from now until the end of time than win by backing the right cutout in an argument over who hates immigrants more and who can sing the national anthem the loudest.

Guavanaut posted:

Weren't the images in this case found to be indecent but not child abuse images though? Or are categories only for CAI and not indecency?

blowfish posted:

News at 11: the British electorate is dumb and has the attention span of a goldfish.

blowfish posted:

News at 11: the British electorate is dumb and has the attention span of a goldfish.

peanut- posted:

And I'm sure you'd revel in getting to feel self-righteous about it while the twats get on with actually governing the country.

peanut- posted:

And I'm sure you'd revel in getting to feel self-righteous about it while the twats get on with actually governing the country.

The Perfect Element posted:

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

Do you think the tax credit cuts would have been opposed with a Blairite in charge?

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

Corbyn's done a pretty good job of being a voice of dissent.

The Perfect Element posted:

Hi thread, I've got a bit of a difficult situation that some of you may be able to advise me about.

The police turned up on my mates doorstep last night, saying that he has been accused by sainsburys of shoplifting from one of their stores about a month ago. Apparently there's cctv footage, and they tracked him down by his car registration plate. Theres also someone else with him in the footage - me, as yet unidentified.

They have refused to say what was stolen, or give any other details of circumstances. They simply left a card with him, and said that if either of us felt like coming clean, then to call the number. Before they left they also sniffed the air suspiciously, demanded to smell his clothes, and accused him of smoking weed, which he denied.

Now, first things first : neither of us are shoplifters. If anything was taken without payment, which it wasn't, it definitely would have been by accident.

Neither of us want this hanging over our heads, so what do we do? My friend wants us to go to the store in question and speak to them about it, but that seems like a bad idea for all sorts of reasons.

Failing that, we could contact the police and ask them for more info, for the footage etc. Or we could just leave it and hope that we never hear about it again.

What does the thread advise?

The Perfect Element posted:

Hi thread, I've got a bit of a difficult situation that some of you may be able to advise me about.

The police turned up on my mates doorstep last night, saying that he has been accused by sainsburys of shoplifting from one of their stores about a month ago. Apparently there's cctv footage, and they tracked him down by his car registration plate. Theres also someone else with him in the footage - me, as yet unidentified.

They have refused to say what was stolen, or give any other details of circumstances. They simply left a card with him, and said that if either of us felt like coming clean, then to call the number. Before they left they also sniffed the air suspiciously, demanded to smell his clothes, and accused him of smoking weed, which he denied.

Now, first things first : neither of us are shoplifters. If anything was taken without payment, which it wasn't, it definitely would have been by accident.

Neither of us want this hanging over our heads, so what do we do? My friend wants us to go to the store in question and speak to them about it, but that seems like a bad idea for all sorts of reasons.

Failing that, we could contact the police and ask them for more info, for the footage etc. Or we could just leave it and hope that we never hear about it again.

What does the thread advise?

Pissflaps posted:

If Corbyn is the leader at the next election I won't vote Tory, but I probably won't vote Labour either.

The Perfect Element posted:

Hi thread, I've got a bit of a difficult situation that some of you may be able to advise me about.

The police turned up on my mates doorstep last night, saying that he has been accused by sainsburys of shoplifting from one of their stores about a month ago. Apparently there's cctv footage, and they tracked him down by his car registration plate. Theres also someone else with him in the footage - me, as yet unidentified.

They have refused to say what was stolen, or give any other details of circumstances. They simply left a card with him, and said that if either of us felt like coming clean, then to call the number. Before they left they also sniffed the air suspiciously, demanded to smell his clothes, and accused him of smoking weed, which he denied.

Now, first things first : neither of us are shoplifters. If anything was taken without payment, which it wasn't, it definitely would have been by accident.

Neither of us want this hanging over our heads, so what do we do? My friend wants us to go to the store in question and speak to them about it, but that seems like a bad idea for all sorts of reasons.

Failing that, we could contact the police and ask them for more info, for the footage etc. Or we could just leave it and hope that we never hear about it again.

What does the thread advise?

The Perfect Element posted:

Hi thread, I've got a bit of a difficult situation that some of you may be able to advise me about.

The police turned up on my mates doorstep last night, saying that he has been accused by sainsburys of shoplifting from one of their stores about a month ago. Apparently there's cctv footage, and they tracked him down by his car registration plate. Theres also someone else with him in the footage - me, as yet unidentified.

They have refused to say what was stolen, or give any other details of circumstances. They simply left a card with him, and said that if either of us felt like coming clean, then to call the number. Before they left they also sniffed the air suspiciously, demanded to smell his clothes, and accused him of smoking weed, which he denied.

Now, first things first : neither of us are shoplifters. If anything was taken without payment, which it wasn't, it definitely would have been by accident.

Neither of us want this hanging over our heads, so what do we do? My friend wants us to go to the store in question and speak to them about it, but that seems like a bad idea for all sorts of reasons.

Failing that, we could contact the police and ask them for more info, for the footage etc. Or we could just leave it and hope that we never hear about it again.

What does the thread advise?

Pissflaps posted:

He’s quite anti-royal. He’s like an old schoolteacher type; you expect patches on his elbows.

Igiari posted:

Shouldn't you be evaluating the merits of the candidates for your local MP, given the way our parliamentary system works? Unless you live in Islington, but I'm not sure that you do.

The Perfect Element posted:

Hi thread, I've got a bit of a difficult situation that some of you may be able to advise me about.

Pissflaps posted:

An utterly bovine comment.