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Three-Phase posted:Those dang scooby-doo divers.
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Three-Phase posted:Those dang scooby-doo divers. What happened, did the mods close it because it was entertaining and one of them didnt create it?
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Jun 2, 2016 00:50
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Yeah. Here it is, closed of course.
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Jun 2, 2016 01:19
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Such beautiful lunacy.
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Jun 2, 2016 02:04
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the best part is that the guy that made all that poo poo has a million edits on wikipedia and you'll occasionally come across his lovely cgi stuff in articles.
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Jun 2, 2016 03:46
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Aside from being insane, what is SCUBA guy's angry button exactly? He doesn't approve of the gear other divers are using and so fantasizes about killing them for it? He thinks they're too inexperienced for a certain area and again fantasizes about arresting or killing them? I can't seem to figure out exactly what his main beef is.
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Jun 2, 2016 04:32
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HairyManling posted:Aside from being insane, what is SCUBA guy's angry button exactly? He doesn't approve of the gear other divers are using and so fantasizes about killing them for it? He thinks they're too inexperienced for a certain area and again fantasizes about arresting or killing them? I can't seem to figure out exactly what his main beef is. He says that it's supposed to be a satirical look at what could happen if you let government regulation of hobbies get way out of control, but it definitely looks like it became fetishistic at some point
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Jun 2, 2016 04:34
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SEA PATROL is the best thing I've ever seen on the internet
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Jun 2, 2016 04:49
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SEA PATROL is good and right to deal with the recreational diving menace.
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Jun 2, 2016 04:56
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Pharmaskittle posted:SEA PATROL is the best thing I've ever seen on the internet Not an empty quote E: quote:Wow, all those controls and this is quite literally the game in its entirety. To truly appreciate the majesty of this title you really need to see it in motion. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Jun 2, 2016 05:03
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John Denver Hoxha posted:My nuclear waste disposal plan is foolproof and relies on simple human nature... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal quote:In the late 1970s, Love Canal received national attention for the ensuing problematic health development originated from disposal of 22,000 barrels of toxic waste. Numerous families were displaced from their houses, having been contaminated with chemicals and toxic waste. Many of the families suffered several health issues with common problems of high red blood cell counts and indications of leukemia. The entire neighborhood has since been demolished and an Superfund cleanup took years before wrapping up in 2004. quote:Hooker Chemical deeded the site to the Niagara Falls School Board in 1953 for $1 with a liability limitation clause. In the "sales" agreement signed on April 28, 1953, Hooker Chemical included a seventeen-line caveat that they believed released them from all legal obligations should lawsuits arise in the future quote:Despite the disclaimer, the School Board began construction of the "99th Street School" in its originally intended location. In January 1954, the architect of the school wrote to the education committee informing them that during excavation, workers discovered two dump sites filled with 55-US-gallon (210 l; 46 imp gal) drums containing chemical wastes. The architect also noted that it would be "poor policy" to build in that area since it was not known what wastes were present in the ground, and the concrete foundation might be subsequently damaged.[14] The school board then moved the school site eighty to eighty-five feet further north.[2] The kindergarten playground also had to be relocated because it was directly on top of a chemical dump. Upon completion in 1955, 400 children attended the school, and it opened along with several other schools that had been built to accommodate students. That same year, a twenty-five foot area crumbled exposing toxic chemical drums, which then filled with water during rainstorms. This created large puddles that children enjoyed playing in.
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Jun 2, 2016 12:55
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I live around here and I'm really pissed that Occidental (Hooker) got hosed with this one.. Yes it was a toxic waste dump but it was from an era of gently caress-it lets toss it in the garbage. Then when Niagara falls wanted to buy it they were all gently caress NO.. NO NO NO NOPE NOPE NOPE NO you don't want this. But they still pressured and Occidental still said. NO you don't want it go find other land, yet still the government pressured them, so they sold it and put "Pleae dont' build on this poo poo" in the sales agreement.. Yet still it was THEIR fault that toxic waste was bobing in peoples basements. Also prevalent in my area: Some waste from the Manhattan project that's buried underground in a cask, no one wants to disburb since there are residential homes across the street, so they just leave it there and monitor the ground. They also recently found some fill from love canal that was sitting somenwere, and they were transporting the dirt for scrubbing to a plant that's near where I use to live. (I started taking an alternative route when the hazardous waste dirt containers were sitting on containment mats) tater_salad fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Jun 2, 2016 14:20
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Every once in awhile someone finds an old unmarked dump in the country somewhere. Last time it happened they pulled out 30 or 40 old car batteries and lead paint cans among other things. No one really cared what was thrown in the ground in the 40's and 50's, just as long as it was far away from where they were. Heres a handy map to show you known superfund and lesser sites. http://toxmap-classic.nlm.nih.gov/toxmap/combo/navigate.do It hasn't been updated in almost 2 years though.
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Jun 2, 2016 14:31
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right in the 40's and 50's it was just some empty field and no one was ever going to use it.. now it's a strip mall.
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Jun 2, 2016 14:48
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After Fukushima, regular folk started buying Geiger counters and they found all kinds of random hot spots. Sometimes it was a rain puddle, sometimes it was radioactive garbage from a more naive era just chilling under a house for 50+ years.
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Jun 2, 2016 14:50
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tater_salad posted:right in the 40's and 50's it was just some empty field and no one was ever going to use it.. now it's a strip mall. About 6 or 7 years ago some developers cleared a whole bunch of factories and built a massive amount of apartment buildings in my town. Then someone realised the ground was toxic as gently caress so they had to demolish and remove all the buildings and they then excavated the entire site (which was roughly an acre) and removed about 4 or 5m of dirt, treated everything that was left for several years and then refilled the site and built a whole bunch more apartment buildings. God knows where they took 5m x 1acre worth of toxic dirt. Immediately next to the site is a children's playground and the carpark to the supermarket where I've been shopping almost every day for the last 15 years. 
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Jun 2, 2016 15:05
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:About 6 or 7 years ago some developers cleared a whole bunch of factories and built a massive amount of apartment buildings in my town. Then someone realised the ground was toxic as gently caress so they had to demolish and remove all the buildings and they then excavated the entire site (which was roughly an acre) and removed about 4 or 5m of dirt, treated everything that was left for several years and then refilled the site and built a whole bunch more apartment buildings. God knows where they took 5m x 1acre worth of toxic dirt. This just reminded me of decontamination efforts in Switzerland, in Kölliken. They apparently used to just dump toxic waste up until the mid-1980s, and they have now errected a giant structure above the old landfill while they unearth, sort and (more?) properly dispose the things in there. I'm having trouble finding a decent English source, but here is a video (in German) that doesn't need the sound, just showing the initial construction of the containment building they had to errect before they could start digging up the ground: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoLwUFakxJ8 Google also brought up these (rather few) slides, which at least have a diagram: https://clu-in.org/athens/download/Unique_Settings/Switzerland-Bernhard_Hammer.pdf
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Jun 2, 2016 15:28
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more  chatThese are always fun: http://radiationnetwork.com/ http://www.gmcmap.com/ My boss had a counter in his office as part of http://radmon.org/
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Jun 2, 2016 15:57
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:more Pssh. The cool places aren't even monitored, like Ramsar in Iran. Lots of radium ores, lots of hot springs, radium dissolves into the hot water and then precipitates out in the springs, whole area has the highest natural background count on earth. And no elevated cancer rate, which is a (a) neat and (b) kind of fatal to the LNT exposure model. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11769138 quote:People in some areas of Ramsar, a city in northern Iran, receive an annual radiation absorbed dose from background radiation that is up to 260 mSv y(-1), substantially higher than the 20 mSv y(-1) that is permitted for radiation workers. Inhabitants of Ramsar have lived for many generations in these high background areas. Cytogenetic studies show no significant differences between people in the high background compared to people in normal background areas. An in vitro challenge dose of 1.5 Gy of gamma rays was administered to the lymphocytes, which showed significantly reduced frequency for chromosome aberrations of people living in high background compared to those in normal background areas in and near Ramsar. Specifically, inhabitants of high background radiation areas had about 56% the average number of induced chromosomal abnormalities of normal background radiation area inhabitants following this exposure. This suggests that adaptive response might be induced by chronic exposure to natural background radiation as opposed to acute exposure to higher (tens of mGy) levels of radiation in the laboratory. There were no differences in laboratory tests of the immune systems, and no noted differences in hematological alterations between these two groups of people.
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Jun 2, 2016 16:39
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:God knows where they took 5m x 1acre worth of toxic dirt. Depending on what was in the dirt, it may have gone to local landfills to use as cover material.
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Jun 2, 2016 16:54
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It appears that the combination of Love and Hooker always leads to something toxic in the end.
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Jun 2, 2016 17:03
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzerzhinsk,_Russiaquote:According to the September 12, 2007, study by the Blacksmith Institute (United States), Dzerzhinsk is one of the worst-polluted cities of the world and has a life expectancy of 42 years for men and 47 for women, with the 2003 death rate exceeding its birth rate by 260%.[10] Environmental action groups such as Greenpeace attribute such low life expectancy to high levels of persistent organic chemicals, particularly dioxins. The Blacksmith Institute also names sarin, lewisite, sulfur mustard, hydrogen cyanide, phosgene, lead, and organic chemicals among the worst pollutants.[10] Parts of Dzerzhinsk's water are contaminated with dioxins and phenol at levels that are reportedly seventeen million times the safe limit.[10]
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Jun 2, 2016 18:38
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Visit beautiful Dzerzhinsk! Come stroll along the beach of the picturesque White Sea! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvqiSqXvrQo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl1VXHckZW8 The 'White Sea' is a chemical waste dump that covers 92 hectares.  Note all the lakes and rivers riiiiiiiight next to it. Edit: it's seeping into the Volga river 
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Jun 2, 2016 19:00
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Visit beautiful Dzerzhinsk! Come stroll along the beach of the picturesque White Sea! Obligatory, "Get out of here S.T.A.L.K.E.R.!" 
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Jun 2, 2016 19:10
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Of course the Soviets weren't reckless enough to just dump all their dangerous waste in their cities. They dumped a fair amount of the really dangerous poo poo in foreign countries like Kyrgyzstan instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2QWiBiaqCQ Here's thousands and thousands of tons of missiles just left in piles in Georgia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMEs2DQdlZM Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Jun 2, 2016 19:16
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If anyone you know in the US seriously bitches about the EPA and proper environmental management, holy poo poo. At least we aren't those guys.
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Jun 2, 2016 19:29
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Or arctic sea - http://bellona.org/news/nuclear-iss...-in-arctic-seasquote:The catalogue of waste dumped at sea by the Soviets, according to documents seen by Bellona, and which were today released by the Norwegian daily Aftenposten, includes some 17,000 containers of radioactive waste, 19 ships containing radioactive waste, 14 nuclear reactors, including five that still contain spent nuclear fuel; 735 other pieces of radiactively contaminated heavy machinery, and the K-27 nuclear submarine with its two reactors loaded with nuclear fuel. Or Ural - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayak / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techa_River quote:In the next 10 to 11 hours, the radioactive cloud moved towards the north-east, reaching 300–350 kilometers from the accident. The fallout of the cloud resulted in a long-term contamination of an area of more than 800 to 20,000 square kilometers (depending on what contamination level is considered significant), primarily with caesium-137 and strontium-90.[3] This area is usually referred to as the East-Ural Radioactive Trace (EURT).[6] quote:As many as forty villages, with a combined population of about 28,000 residents, lined the river at the time.[4] For 24 of them, the Techa was a major source of water; 23 of them were eventually evacuated.[5] In the past 45 years, about half a million people in the region have been irradiated in one or more of the incidents,[4][6] exposing them to as much as 20 times the radiation suffered by the Chernobyl disaster victims.[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCmcvyctVrU edit: apologies for the derail, i'll go away now for a while canis minor fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Jun 2, 2016 19:34
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Grognan posted:If anyone you know in the US seriously bitches about the EPA and proper environmental management, holy poo poo. At least we aren't those guys.  Look into the Hanford site, the Oak Ridge facilities, the Santa Susana Field Lab, Pantex, and basically anywhere where the government researches or manufactures poo poo that's both toxic and secret. Of SSFL's ten research reactors, six suffered meltdowns, one had the sodium coolant catch fire, none had containment structures. Dudes were tasked with disposing of radioactive and toxic waste by burning it in open pits. Ignition! has a bit where rocket researchers were seriously proposing to use dimethylmercury as a rocket propellant, reconsidered, decided to run their test with pure elemental mercury instead, and only at the last minute decided to do this in the desert instead of in New Jersey, since out in the desert they wouldn't have to use a complicated set of piping in order to capture the mercury-laden exhaust and could just let it spray all over the place instead. And then there's Operation CHASE, which disposed of chemical munitions by loading them into ships and then scuttling the ships at sea. Yeah, we're still not those guys, but that's hardly a high bar to clear. I'm prettier than Brian Peppers, too.
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tater_salad posted:I live around here and I'm really pissed that Occidental (Hooker) got hosed with this one.. Yes it was a toxic waste dump but it was from an era of gently caress-it lets toss it in the garbage. Then when Niagara falls wanted to buy it they were all gently caress NO.. NO NO NO NOPE NOPE NOPE NO you don't want this. But they still pressured and Occidental still said. NO you don't want it go find other land, yet still the government pressured them, so they sold it and put "Pleae dont' build on this poo poo" in the sales agreement.. Yet still it was THEIR fault that toxic waste was bobing in peoples basements. On the other hand, gently caress em
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Jun 2, 2016 20:23
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Improbable Lobster posted:On the other hand, gently caress em Nah. They disposed of that stuff, with permission from the city, in accord with the laws of the time. The disposal site was lined and capped. They really didn't want the city to build there, and only agreed to the sale after the city threatened to condemn the land and take it from them anyway. Then the folks the city hired to build there decided to do things like puncture the lining to run horizontal pipes, and excavate the clay cap to use as fill dirt, letting water in and out. Hooker's only fault in this was in expecting their disclaimer of liability to hold up in court.
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Jun 2, 2016 20:31
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Phanatic posted:Nah. They disposed of that stuff, with permission from the city, in accord with the laws of the time. The disposal site was lined and capped. They really didn't want the city to build there, and only agreed to the sale after the city threatened to condemn the land and take it from them anyway. Then the folks the city hired to build there decided to do things like puncture the lining to run horizontal pipes, and excavate the clay cap to use as fill dirt, letting water in and out. Hooker's only fault in this was in expecting their disclaimer of liability to hold up in court. Yeah the city bought a known toxic dump that was okay they they started building poo poo on top of it. I think they re punctured the cap again later in life when they were building a highway, and were dangerously close to dumping stuff in the Niagara river
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:My boss had a counter in his office as part of http://radmon.org/ wanna set one of these up and leave it next to my cobalt-60 source edit: 
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Jun 2, 2016 22:02
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Phanatic posted:Pssh. The cool places aren't even monitored, like Ramsar in Iran. Lots of radium ores, lots of hot springs, radium dissolves into the hot water and then precipitates out in the springs, whole area has the highest natural background count on earth. And no elevated cancer rate, which is a (a) neat and (b) kind of fatal to the LNT exposure model. Growing up immune to radiation sounds loving badass.
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BattleMaster posted:wanna set one of these up and leave it next to my cobalt-60 source Why the gently caress do you have a cobalt 60 source? And what do you do with it after it decays? Doesn't it have a halflife of like 5~6 years? anywho, have an osha. 
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This is a joke, right? There can't seriously be a place called Love Canal, never mind it being contaminated by Hooker Chemicals.
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Jun 3, 2016 00:39
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I have no idea what the gently caress is going on there. Looks to me like a piece of wood clamped to a drill with an immobile separator plate inbetween, while the drill is clamped to a wooden beam?
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Mithaldu posted:I have no idea what the gently caress is going on there. Looks to me like a piece of wood clamped to a drill with an immobile separator plate inbetween, while the drill is clamped to a wooden beam? Poor man’s router table.
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Speaking of Occidental... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_Alpha quote:The fire would have burnt out were it not being fed with oil from both Tartan and the Claymore platforms, the resulting back pressure forcing fresh fuel out of ruptured pipework on Piper, directly into the heart of the fire. The Claymore platform continued pumping oil until the second explosion because the manager had no permission from the Occidental control centre to shut down. Also, the connecting gas pipeline to Tartan continued to pump, as its manager had been directed by his superior. The reason for this procedure was the huge cost of such a shut down. It would have taken several days to restart production after a stop, with substantial financial consequences. "Fire raging on one of our platforms? gently caress it keep pumping fuel into it, shutting down would be expensive." 167 people were killed.
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Blue Angels pilot crashed in his plane. Reset the accident counter. http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/2016/06/02/navy-blue-angel-jet-crashes-tennessee/85310876/
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