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Buttcoin purse posted:Anyway this all means I have no freaking idea why a GTX 970 is obsolete. Surely they are still making drivers for it? Did a new version of DirectX or shader model or something come out that Grand Theft Auto 17 is going to use and GTX 970 doesn't support it? I think obsolete means here that there will be very soon cheaper and more performant alternative called AMD RX480.
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mobby_6kl posted:GTX 760: still not as obsolete as my 650 Ti! What's rather mind blowing is that, despite being orders of magnitude slower than anything in the 10xx range, it still runs everything very acceptably at 1080p. You noticed me mentioning the functional 9500 GT sitting in a bag on a shelf, right?
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SinineSiil posted:I think obsolete means here that there will be very soon cheaper and more performant alternative called AMD RX480. That will have the incredibly unstable AMD drivers to boot! I have horror stories, so many horror stories, about AMD drivers. 
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Jun 11, 2016 11:33
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AMD manage to break programs in the most amazing ways. There's a great one where it prevents you from selecting multiple things in Maya,
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The Titan still has a place if you need a lot of VRAM. Like for real time colour grading with high res (4K-6K) footage..
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Imagine if you bought one two months ago treiz01 posted:I bought a GTX 970 6 months ago Price/performance-wise the GTX 970 is pretty good and you can probably still run most new games on acceptable settings. Phlegmish has a new favorite as of 12:01 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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JazzmasterCurious posted:Remember the time when ATi had rock solid drivers and nVidia were the buggy ones? No.
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KozmoNaut posted:Firstly, the Doomsday engine is horribly unoptimized, GZDoom is so much better. Thanks for the recommendation! It has a download section which doesn't seem to say anything about which operating system(s) it supports? Is this a retro thing, like in the 90s obviously everything was for PC running the latest Microsoft OS, nobody cared about Linux and Mac was dead, so let's pretend it's still the 90s?  quote:Secondly, hi-res textures and 3D models in Doom? What are you, some kind of heretic? Well you see times have changed and I don't actually do all my work in DOS on a 386 computer like I used to. I mean should I also go back to not using WASD keys so it's precisely like when I first started playing DOOM? Also Heretic is another cool game that you can play in Doomsday 
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I really liked the *klunk* of the big old pilsner-bothering light switches at my grandma's house. My first job ever had a knife switch controlling whether or not the dodgem cars were running.  (Not my pic) I can't think of any non-theatrical situation where that will be more practical than a modern switch/circuit breaker.
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Buttcoin purse posted:Thanks for the recommendation! It has a download section which doesn't seem to say anything about which operating system(s) it supports? Is this a retro thing, like in the 90s obviously everything was for PC running the latest Microsoft OS, nobody cared about Linux and Mac was dead, so let's pretend it's still the 90s? Yeah, I think the downloads on the GZDoom page are for Windows by default. Some newer mods require you to run the Git (development) version, due to new features. And you probably want GZLauncher so it's easier to run mods. ZDoom (and by extension GZDoom) is the standard source port for mods and new development in the Doom world. quote:Well you see times have changed and I don't actually do all my work in DOS on a 386 computer like I used to. I mean should I also go back to not using WASD keys so it's precisely like when I first started playing DOOM? My main issue with hi-res textures and 3D models are that they look completely out of place in the low-poly world of Doom, like they're trying to fake a bunch of detail that just isn't there. And the 3D models actually change the gameplay too, compared to the original sprites. Even just texture filtering (bilinear/trilinear) is enough to make everything look like poo poo. Doom (and Quake) had textures that were made with without filtering in mind, so they actually look best with the texture filtering disabled.
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cheerfullydrab posted:Why did the switches with the knob you push in die out? Because most of them used lovely push/push potentiometers so the part that was actually the switch loving loved to get stuck? Based on my encounters, anyway.
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I have a 960 and i run everything at ultra settings (70 fps in overwatch), if by obsolete you mean 'can't do VR' then I guess that makes sense
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Buttcoin purse posted:It looks like these are in a hotel, unless every house in Thailand also needs you to insert a door pass into a slot to get any of the lights to turn on? Nope, most Thai outlets are usually like this for round or flat twin prongs. More importantly 90% of the time they will be horribly fitted and buzz and arc all the goddamn time. 
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TinTower posted:1994, actually. I was taught how to wire a plug in primary school in the 1990s (I imagine it made a suitably low-budget science lesson). I've never actually had to wire a plug in my life, but I suppose I could if I really needed to.
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WebDog posted:AMD manage to break programs in the most amazing ways. There's a great one where it prevents you from selecting multiple things in Maya, My favorite was when it would run anything 3D and it was telling me it couldn't find a display. I try upgrading to the latest version? Can't install - Can't find display! Uninstall? One guess. (Mind you I was reading this on screen the whole time.) And we just had to toss one in the part box and replace it with a non-terribly exciting Nvidia, as it would randomly shut down one of the screens in my Dad's dual head rig, throw everything on to the main monitor, then kick back on, leaving the main screen all buggered up. The clinching fact was when it buggered up which monitor was which and I couldn't get it to set them up properly again. Samizdata has a new favorite as of 19:57 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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JazzmasterCurious posted:Remember the time when ATi had rock solid drivers and nVidia were the buggy ones? What color is the sky of the planet you are from? Here on Earth it is blue...
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Samizdata posted:What color is the sky of the planet you are from? I installed new drivers and now it's purple with white stripes.
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JazzmasterCurious posted:Remember the time when ATi had rock solid drivers and nVidia were the buggy ones? Nvidia caused 30% of all the crashes in Windows Vista. If that hadn't happened and OEMs hadn't demanded that Vista be certified for their Celeron laptops with 512MB RAM, Vista would have been received a lot better than what actually happened. If you install it and update it on a decent computer today, it's a perfectly acceptable but somewhat unremarkable and dated OS. Windows 7, 8 and 10 all run on technologies first introduced in Vista, the biggest changes have been in the user interface.
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Phlegmish posted:Imagine if you bought one two months ago I'm running fallout 4 on ultra with zero problems with a 970, friends with lower rated cards are having no issues with Overwatch or Warhammer Total War. Doom they've had issues with but that's because Doom has some weird graphical stuff going on. Sound Cards. Does anyone who isn't a professional musician actually have separate sound cards on computers these days? I saw they do still sell them, but doesn't an integrated card do everything you need, and with USB headphones, isn't sound just software?
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twistedmentat posted:I'm running fallout 4 on ultra with zero problems with a 970, friends with lower rated cards are having no issues with Overwatch or Warhammer Total War. Doom they've had issues with but that's because Doom has some weird graphical stuff going on. I have an external mixer board (very small) that acts as a USB soundcard so I can plug in a proper Shure (OK, Shure clone) mic to my PC.
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twistedmentat posted:I'm running fallout 4 on ultra with zero problems with a 970, friends with lower rated cards are having no issues with Overwatch or Warhammer Total War. Doom they've had issues with but that's because Doom has some weird graphical stuff going on. USB headphones scream gimmick, but you're close - most useful sound cards are external these days because there isn't much room left between the signal capabilities of onboard sound and the signal floor available inside the computer with its sixty-someodd pieces of EMI-generating circuitry.
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Buttcoin purse posted:Switches like that are good for attaching a system of strings and pulleys to when you're a kid (I learned from a friend). Yeah, but the superior euro toggle switches can be switched on/off by firing nerf darts or other projectiles at them.
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Sir Unimaginative posted:USB headphones scream gimmick, but you're close - most useful sound cards are external these days because there isn't much room left between the signal capabilities of onboard sound and the signal floor available inside the computer with its sixty-someodd pieces of EMI-generating circuitry. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're speaking about something like a DAC right?
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Jerry Cotton posted:I installed new drivers and now it's purple with white stripes. Well played, old son, well played. evobatman posted:Nvidia caused 30% of all the crashes in Windows Vista. If that hadn't happened and OEMs hadn't demanded that Vista be certified for their Celeron laptops with 512MB RAM, Vista would have been received a lot better than what actually happened. If you install it and update it on a decent computer today, it's a perfectly acceptable but somewhat unremarkable and dated OS. Windows 7, 8 and 10 all run on technologies first introduced in Vista, the biggest changes have been in the user interface. Mkay, what were the other 70% then? Yeah, I am saying citation needed here. Samizdata has a new favorite as of 23:23 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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Sir Unimaginative posted:USB headphones scream gimmick, but you're close - most useful sound cards are external these days because there isn't much room left between the signal capabilities of onboard sound and the signal floor available inside the computer with its sixty-someodd pieces of EMI-generating circuitry. For pure headphones USB hasn't taken off yet, but for voip headsets USB has jumped to being the reigning king. You actually have to go out of your way to find a headset that still has two 3.5mm plugs.
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The Sicilian posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're speaking about something like a DAC right? A soundcard, by necessity, has to contain a DAC. Anyway I currently have a Creative headphone amp/DAC thing plugged into a USB port on my PC rather than use onboard sound. Maybe it's just because I cheaped out on the motherboard but it really does sound noticeably better.
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Efexeye posted:I have a 960 and i run everything at ultra settings (70 fps in overwatch), if by obsolete you mean 'can't do VR' then I guess that makes sense My gaming PC still has a GTX460. It runs fairly recent games just fine. Very overdue for an update, so relieved I waited for the 10xx series to come out. twistedmentat posted:
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well why not posted:My gaming PC still has a GTX460. It runs fairly recent games just fine. Very overdue for an update, so relieved I waited for the 10xx series to come out. This was my previous card, which burnt out last November. I got a GTX970 back in March when I built a new PC. The only game I have or want that the old card couldn't play well was Overwatch.
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KozmoNaut posted:Even just texture filtering (bilinear/trilinear) is enough to make everything look like poo poo. Doom (and Quake) had textures that were made with without filtering in mind, so they actually look best with the texture filtering disabled. I guess that's why you need to use the third-party high-resolution textures
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twistedmentat posted:I'm running fallout 4 on ultra with zero problems with a 970, friends with lower rated cards are having no issues with Overwatch or Warhammer Total War. Doom they've had issues with but that's because Doom has some weird graphical stuff going on. I have some incredibly nebulous interference-type problem with the onboard and even a pci-e sound card I plugged into this computer where there's a buzzing heard through my nice headphones that increases with CPU load so technically I have an internal separate sound card. A cheap USB sound card fixed the issue and I haven't really wanted that single pci-e x1 slot so uhhh I haven't bothered to take the internal one out because 
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Buttcoin purse posted:I guess that's why you need to use the third-party high-resolution textures The problem with those is that they all look like poo poo.
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Elliotw2 posted:For pure headphones USB hasn't taken off yet, but for voip headsets USB has jumped to being the reigning king. You actually have to go out of your way to find a headset that still has two 3.5mm plugs. VoIP isn't exactly a general-purpose application and it at least sort of makes sense I guess since most computers don't have 4-pin 3.5mm jacks, but subjecting something like headphones to artificial usage restrictions via a USB connector rather than the standard 1/4" or 3.5mm connectors is an atrocity, so take that "yet" back.
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Considering that Apple and Google are removing/discouraging 3.5mm jacks in their higher end models, that "yet" might be sooner than you think.
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Elliotw2 posted:Considering that Apple and Google are removing/discouraging 3.5mm jacks in their higher end models, that "yet" might be sooner than you think. Apple is rumoured to be removing the 3.5mm jack, but there isn't any evidence Google will do the same thing.
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Elliotw2 posted:Considering that Apple and Google are removing/discouraging 3.5mm jacks in their higher end models, that "yet" might be sooner than you think. Are you glad for it?
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dissss posted:Apple is rumoured to be removing the 3.5mm jack, but there isn't any evidence Google will do the same thing. If Apple is merely rumoured to be doing it, then there’s no evidence for them, either. Meanwhile, esteemed forums poster Elliotw2 just said Google was doing it. Now it’s a rumour for Google, too. 
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I don't really care either way because I'm the small amount of people who doesn't really use headphones with their phones. The Android end is happening, since the Moto Z and a couple of other high end phones are confirmed to not have headphone jacks. Motorola is at least being nice and including a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter. Karasu Tengu has a new favorite as of 04:03 on Jun 12, 2016 |
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Elliotw2 posted:I don't really care either way because I'm the small amount of people who doesn't really use headphones with their phones. Well I do, because balkanizing audio connectors the same way we have data connectors and rendering decades of audio hardware obsolete seems pretty drat wasteful, especially if it's to shave half a millimeter off the thickness of a phone that probably needs to bulk back up a bit for the sake of its battery and its grip.
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