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Stephen9001
Oct 28, 2013
Is that a 2 I see in the top right of the picture? I think it is! That must be it! Why would he be at studio 2 and not studio 1!

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

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Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




If that is... Hoo boy, that just destroyed some alibis.

Silver Falcon
Dec 5, 2005

Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

I got stuck on Cody's testimony when I played this, on the part where you have to show the notebook. I had to ask for help from two different people! So embarrassing.

It was one of the very few places I got really stuck. Most of the time, I could follow the game's odd sort of logic and it made sense. If it stopped making sense, I'd take a break and try again later. For some reason that one testimony just broke my brain.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Stephen9001 posted:

Is that a 2 I see in the top right of the picture? I think it is! That must be it! Why would he be at studio 2 and not studio 1!

You're right, I think. Good catch.

This case is pretty interesting!

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Mors Rattus posted:

: Of course, Jack Hammer died. But the Steel Samurai feel too!

Small typo.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Mors Rattus posted:

I'm afraid that it oculd be anyone in that costume.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Thanks for the typo-spotting, guys!

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
I think I spotted it.

The spear isn't broken, right?

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Leif. posted:

I think I spotted it.

The spear isn't broken, right?

I think this is a bit hard to say. The duct tape might just be under his hand.

ManicVolcanic
Jun 5, 2016

Leif. posted:

I think I spotted it.

The spear isn't broken, right?

It looks to me like the slightly discolored section just below the spear tip would be the tape, because Oldbag fixed the spear.

It's more likely to be the "2" at the top of the image, which is... disconcerting. Who was it at the meeting in the Studio 2 trailer? Vasquez, Manella, and studio executives? Ohhh boy.

EllipsisBreak
Mar 1, 2015
That nuclear patent law makes a lot of sense. Whoever patents something first gets exclusive use of the invention for a long time, so everyone wants to do that. But to patent an invention, you have to make the details public. If not for this law, most nuclear secrets would be in the public domain.

Heavy Sigh
Nov 13, 2011

They've planted corn everywhere.

Soiled Meat
I kind of want to see Phoenix deal with patent law, now.

Heavy Sigh fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Jun 10, 2016

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

EllipsisBreak posted:

That nuclear patent law makes a lot of sense. Whoever patents something first gets exclusive use of the invention for a long time, so everyone wants to do that. But to patent an invention, you have to make the details public. If not for this law, most nuclear secrets would be in the public domain.
That's, oddly enough, already covered by 35 USC §151: "If, in the opinion of the Atomic Energy Commission, the Secretary of a Defense Department, or the chief officer of another department or agency so designated, the publication or disclosure of the invention by the publication of an application or by the granting of a patent therefor would be detrimental to the national security, the Atomic Energy Commission, the Secretary of a Defense Department, or such other chief officer shall notify the Commissioner of Patents and the Commissioner of Patents shall order that the invention be kept secret and shall withhold the publication of the application or the grant of a patent for such period as the national interest requires[.]"

The point of that law was to ensure that the government didn't have to pay royalties to make nukes, or otherwise get entangled in any sort of IP disputes that could theoretically shut down a "critical" defense initiative by dragging the government to court. A further section cancels any such patents entirely, so theoretically you wouldn't violate any patent law if you tried to duplicate the W88 miniaturized thermonuclear weapon since that's all public domain*. So that's one fewer legal problem after you get shipped off to Gitmo for trying :v:

*Public domain being that no one owns the rights to a particular invention. You can have something which is in the public domain, but is also a state secret known to few.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
Even in the private sector there are a ton of "trade secrets" that anyone could legally copy, but are protected by virtue of people not finding out about them.

Trade secrets predate patent law by a long time - in fact, one of the main purposes of patent law is to incentivise making things like manufacturing techniques available for the public good, instead of being kept as trade secrets and then lost when the person who came up with them dies.

Dr. Buttass
Aug 12, 2013

AWFUL SOMETHING

Jabor posted:

Even in the private sector there are a ton of "trade secrets" that anyone could legally copy, but are protected by virtue of people not finding out about them.

Trade secrets predate patent law by a long time - in fact, one of the main purposes of patent law is to incentivise making things like manufacturing techniques available for the public good, instead of being kept as trade secrets and then lost when the person who came up with them dies.

I remember a little while ago there was something of a brouhaha because someone who was being groomed to take over as one of the keepers of the Coca-Cola recipe released it...only for it to turn out that it was a fake recipe to test if he'd actually keep the secret or not.

Stephen9001
Oct 28, 2013

Dr. Buttass posted:

I remember a little while ago there was something of a brouhaha because someone who was being groomed to take over as one of the keepers of the Coca-Cola recipe released it...only for it to turn out that it was a fake recipe to test if he'd actually keep the secret or not.

This is equal parts hilarious (how the recipe was fake) and depressing (they were seriously grooming someone to be a holder of their "super secret recipe")

And now I want an in-game trail about something like this: "It was YOU who released the recipe for Colonel Sanders secret sauce!"

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



I still find it super lame that there aren't any non-murder trials in these games, but according to threads on the subject, you couldn't get any tension out of a trial that doesn't threaten a death sentence.

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer

Xander77 posted:

I still find it super lame that there aren't any non-murder trials in these games

Not quite true

Montegoraon
Aug 22, 2013

Mors Rattus posted:

: ...
: Sorry. I was too shocked to say anything for a bit there.
: Listen, Wright! Only one person died in this incident, and that is Jack Hammer! Yet now you claim there "was no victim"?
: Are you insane?
: (Uh oh, he's pulling out all the stops now.)

Boy, this game does not hold back on calling you out for makes stupid guesses.

Dr. Buttass
Aug 12, 2013

AWFUL SOMETHING

Stephen9001 posted:

This is equal parts hilarious (how the recipe was fake) and depressing (they were seriously grooming someone to be a holder of their "super secret recipe")

Well, the thing about humans is they're mortal, so if you're going to keep a secret for longer than the span of a human life, it's probably prudent to pass it on to someone, and if you want it to stay a secret you should probably make sure it's someone who won't tell other people.

So I mean like you're not wrong, but at the same time, you're sorta wrong.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.
Also the recipe and how it's handled is more of a marketing ploy than an actual thing of worth nowadays.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Case 3 - Turnabout Samurai
Trial (Day 3) - Part 4



And the answer is...





: I see... a gate?
: Might I draw your attention to the number on that gate?
: The number? Ah yes. Well, it's hard to see, but it looks like a "2."
: Clearly not a "1," Your Honor, correct?
: Aaaaaah!



: I believe Mr. Edgeworth sees what I'm getting at.
: B-but... Th-that's impossible!
: Hmm? Eh? What's this all about? Please explain so that I might be shocked along with the rest of the court.
: I'll use the studio guidemap.



: However, what do we see in this photo taken at the time of the murder? It does NOT say "1" on that gate in the photo. Your Honor! Here is the true scene of the crime!



This is just to be sure you were awake. I'm not even giving it a spoiler set of linebreaks.





: Here, at Studio Two.
: I see! That would explain the "2" on the gate in the photo.





: Studio Two is no longer being used for filming!
: I see... And this is significant... why?
: (Good question! I really should think these things through more.)
: Would you like to take another stab at it? So to speak?
: S-stabbing away, Your Honor.

No penalty, at least!



: As you may recall, there is a trailer in Studio Two. Now, on that day, a meeting was held in that very trailer.
: There was a break in the meeting corresponding to the time of death.





: They were at the scene of the crime!





Which picks us up where the next one starts.



: The path to the trailer was blocked!
: So we have heard.
: The path was blocked at 2:15...



: In other words, the victim went to Studio Two before that time!
: Yes... yes, I suppose that would be the case.
: Remember Mr. Sal Manella's testimony? Allow me to remind the court: He said no one in the trailer was guilty because they could not have gone to Studio One.
: Yet, in actuality, the reverse was true! Only someone in the trailer could have committed this murder!









: O-order! Order!
: The defense makes the following claims:



: The scene of the crime was Studio Two! The person that the security guard, Ms. Oldbag saw was the victim, Mr. Jack Hammer! Mr. Hammer, for some reason, stole a Steel Samurai costume.
: Then he went to Studio Two!



: This is madness! Jack Hammer is the victim! The victim! Why would he steal a Steel Samurai costume!?



: Are you suggesting he did so to cover up the details of his own murder!?
: W-well, no, of course not...
: Hmm...
: Or do you have proof!?





: (Proof? Uh oh... I'm pretty sure I don't have anything like that...)
: Phoenix. Even if you're not 100% sure about this, you have to try. And I think you've got proof that's good enough to win them over!
: Just got for it! All or nothing!
: Your Honor...
: Yes, Mr. Wright?
: Actually... I do have proof.

This takes us the same place as...



: I have proof!



: Y-you do!?
: You do, Mr. Wright?
: (Now that they're so surprised suddenly I'm much less confident... I think I'm right, though!)



Do you know it?
















: An empty... medicine bottle?
: I found this on the table in the Employee Area.



: The label reads "sleeping pills."
: "Sleeping pills"...?
: The defendant, Mr. Powers, spent that entire afternoon sleeping. He was drugged... by Mr. Hammer!





: Wait a moment... That bottle does raise some suspicions, yes.
: But there is no proof that Mr. Hammer used it.





: An... idea? Continue.
: Run a test of Powers's blood. You should find traces of the sleeping pills.



: This much time after the day of the murder!? Even if there were traces it still proves nothing!
: No blood test could tell that Hammer was theo ne who drugged him, Mr. Wright!
: (He's right. Darn.)
: (That didn't work. Time to try another idea.)



: An idea, Mr. Wright? And that would be?
: Er... we should examine Mr. Hammer's body.
: Mr. Hammer...?
: I thought it was Mr. Powers who was made to take the sleeping pills?
: I-indeed it was, Your Honor. (Wrong again...)



: An... idea? Very well, let's hear it.



: If my claim is true, Mr. Hammer's fingerprints should show up on this bottle!
: Hmm...
: I suppose you're right.
: Very well. The court will take possession of the bottle.

We hand over the bottle.



: This court will suspend proceedings on the current trial for today. Cody Hackin's testimony has revealed new possibilities in this case. In fact, things may have happened very differently than we previously thought.
: The Steel Samurai seen by Ms. Oldbag may have been the victim, Jack Hammer. The scene of the crime was not Studio One, but Studio Two.
: And those in the trailer did have time to commit murder.
: Mr. Wright?
: Yes, Your Honor?
: Your homework is to find the answer to the following question: Why would Mr. Hammer steal the Steel Samurai costume? Also, who killed him, and why?
: Find the answers for me by tomorrow.
: (That's a lot of homework!)
: Mr. Edgeworth.
: Mm?
: You will need to reconsider your stance in this case. Above all, you will need to reconsider your suspicion of Mr. Will Powers.
: As you say, Your Honor.
: This trial will be extended until tomorrow. This is the last extension!





: Very well... Court is adjourned!





: Whew! That was a close one!
: We were saved by a hair, but that's all that counts.
: I thought seriously about going home about three times during the trial.
: M-me too!
: Really? You both seemed so... so confident!
: Hah! Maybe I should take up a career in acting? I was ready to pronounce you dead about three times back there.
: Me too!
: D-dead!?
: Hoh hoh. Of course, we're kidding.
: Are you sure?
: (I wasn't kidding...) Now, Mr. Powers. We have to go make our final investigation. But I promise you, we'll find the true killer by tomorrow's trial!
: R-right! Thanks! *sniff*



Next time: The last investigation.

48 U.S.C. Subsection 1411-19 posted:

Whenever any citizen of the United States discovers a deposit of guano on any island, rock, or key, not within the lawful jurisdiction of any other government, and not occupied by the citizens of any other government, and takes peaceable possession thereof, and occupies the same, such island, rock, or key may, at the discretion of the President, be considered as appertaining to the United States.

Stephen9001
Oct 28, 2013
Huzzah! I was right! Still, thinking about it I don't think there was anything else it could have been.

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

Ayndin
Mar 13, 2010

48 U.S.C. Subsection 1411-19 posted:

Whenever any citizen of the United States discovers a deposit of guano on any island, rock, or key, not within the lawful jurisdiction of any other government, and not occupied by the citizens of any other government, and takes peaceable possession thereof, and occupies the same, such island, rock, or key may, at the discretion of the President, be considered as appertaining to the United States.

So finding bat poo poo can let you claim things for America? Neat.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




We seriously fought wars in order to get our hands on bat guano. Phone-posting, or I'd link to anything relevant.

MegaZeroX
Dec 11, 2013

"I'm Jack Frost, ho! Nice to meet ya, hee ho!"



The writers of that law must of been ... BATSHIT crazy! (I'll leave now)

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
Does that law overrule the one where no nation can claim ownership of the moon? Because the US should totally open a bat farm on the moon.

i81icu812
Dec 5, 2006

Ayndin posted:

So finding bat poo poo can let you claim things for America? Neat.

most islands were birdshit, but there were a few with valuable caves full of batshit to be mined

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Man, Studio 2 does not look at all like a murder scene.

...so, someone with a better grasp of Japanifornian law than me is going to have to explain something. Assuming Sal or Dee actually did murder Jack, wouldn't the safest thing to do be to go into hiding somewhere until the trial ran its course? I suppose that might be suspicious, but it's not like the justice system is going to try multiple people for the same crime. ...are they?

MegaZeroX
Dec 11, 2013

"I'm Jack Frost, ho! Nice to meet ya, hee ho!"



Glazius posted:

...so, someone with a better grasp of Japanifornian law than me is going to have to explain something. Assuming Sal or Dee actually did murder Jack, wouldn't the safest thing to do be to go into hiding somewhere until the trial ran its course? I suppose that might be suspicious, but it's not like the justice system is going to try multiple people for the same crime. ...are they?

I'm going to presume interpretation of Japanifornian law from future games doesn't qualify as spoilers does it? I'm going to include the answer to this in a spoiler tag just in case, but if Mors Rattus wants me to remove it, I will.

At this point, the police force are going to really want to talk to the people in that studio (judge wants them to investigate). So, if one of them went hiding, it would probably be enough for an arrest warrant (resisting police). As far as I'm aware, they can't have them charged with murder at the same time as Powers, but they could have them formally arrested for murder after detaining them for hiding. So if Powers gets not guilty, and let's say one of the unnamed bigwigs is named the suspect, they can indict them then. Additionally, if Powers is found guilty, but the next day a random Bigwig confesses, the police could have a retrial for Powers to acquit him and then indict the Bigwig.

Dr. Buttass
Aug 12, 2013

AWFUL SOMETHING

Regalingualius posted:

We seriously fought wars in order to get our hands on bat guano. Phone-posting, or I'd link to anything relevant.

I believe that guano from both bats and seabirds contains a fair amount of saltpeter.

Turns out we like our corned beef more than you'd expect.

Ayndin
Mar 13, 2010

Dr. Buttass posted:

I believe that guano from both bats and seabirds contains a fair amount of saltpeter.

Turns out we like our corned beef more than you'd expect.

Yeah, I mean it wasn't so much that we considered it important that was of interest, more that there's an actual law on the books. Like it was a common enough occurrence that they just went "look I'm tired of having to fill out all this paperwork to make Birdshit Isle #952 official US territory, just put in something that lets the President order it so or something."

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

The Guano Islands Act was in large response to the perceived need to gain supplies of a non-renewable resource in the face of world-wide competition for the same. Replace the Cold War rhetoric about a "bomber gap" or a "missile gap", and put in "saltpeter gap" and you have the same idea of the mania surrounding it at the time. Guano is of course great fertilizer, but it's also a source for one of the main ingredients of gunpowder, which as you can imagine was a strategic concern that the US government would be interested in. For the Feds this would prove somewhat prescient given the American Civil War about to erupt in a few short years.

And, no, there isn't any mechanism to claim territory on behalf of the US short of an act of Congress; even then this was a unique mechanism in response to a perceived crisis. This is one of the few ways (if not the only way) a private individual can literally plant a flag and call it American soil. And the act itself was highly restricted; it must be terra nullius, it must be uninhabited, and it must have been peacefully claimed. Even in the second age of imperialism, there are very few places that really qualify as such. We only wanted random Americans claiming lovely rocks if no one else had claimed them, no one else was living there, and if they didn't have to get into a fight to do so.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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So y'all know, it is unlikely there will be any updates this week, as I'm gonna be away from home from Wednesday through Sunday.

E: Depending on scheduling there may be a Tuesday update.

WFGuy
Feb 18, 2011

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Toilet Rascal
That's alright, you've been pretty great about update frequency so far, we can wait. Safe travels.


Everyone, keep track of all the murders in Mors Rattus' area from Wednesday to Sunday, this may be an attempt to escape the three-day justice system!

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Case 3 - Turnabout Samurai
Investigation (Day 3) - Part 1







: ? M-Maya!
: So, what happened?
: Well, I think I've got a pretty good idea who did it. Now all I need is a motive... and proof.
: Wow! Good going, Nick!
: Under the "initial trial" system, tomorrow is the last day we have.
: "Initial trial"...? What's that?
: That's the new court system they introduced two or three years ago. They had so many cases in the system, they decided to speed the whole process up.
: So under that system, trials have to end in three days?
: Yeah, pretty much. Well, we've no time to waste!





: I don't get it, Maya.



: What!? You mean Mr. Hammer was wearing the costume!?
: Yeah!
: B-but Mr. Hammer was the victim, Nick!
: Why would he go through the trouble of stealing it?
: That's what we have to find out.



: What happened with the director's testimony?
: Well, it's pretty clear that the producer and the director were both in the trailer.
: Huh...
: Which means that the killer has to be one of them!
: Really!? Why?
: Because the real scene of the crime was Studio Two... where that trailer is!



: (Hmm... was Maya always this excitable?)



: Well, have you noticed anything that might help us?
: I can't see what's going on when Mia is here... So, no. I haven't noticed anything.
: Right...
: Maybe we should go talk to WP?
: (WP... Powers... right.)

It's as good a plan as any.





: Mr. Wright! You did very well again today... thank you!
: Oh... thanks. Um, could you not look like you're about to burst into tears...?
: Wow, Nick! You must have really wowed 'em in there.
: You could stop looking so... vulnerable, too.
: Hey, WP! Only one day left! Let's make it count!
: Yes... Though there's not really anything I can do to help.
: Hah hah hah! I'm not really sure what I can do, either.
: Please... this is no laughing matter.





: Could you tell me more about Ms. Vasquez?
: Oh... the producer? She's well respected in the industry. They say she's a genius.
: A genius...?
: She's been at Global Studios for five years now.
: Right or wrong, nobody dares tell her different these days.
: Why is that?
: Ever since she came on board, we've had nothing but hits. Global Studios was on its knees, but she picked it up and made it shine.
: Oh, and...
: And... what?
: N-nothing. Forget it. I... I've only heard rumors, anyhow.



: Can you tell me anything about Mr. Manella?
: Oh, he used to be a minor straight-to-video director. But something in his work caught Vasquez's eye. She brought the Steel Samurai idea to him. Now everyone knows the name Sal Manella.
: I hear he's pretty much at her back and call, though. Whenever she says "jump!" he asks "how high?" and all that.
: (I can imagine him being at her beck and call... though I can't imagine him jumping.)



: I was wondering about Mr. Hammer... He was a big star back in the day, right? But then he just dropped off the face of the Earth.
: Oh... Yes, you're right. In fact, he was my role model when I started in this business. But he just stopped taking on big roles. That's when he began appearing in little productions at Global...



: I was really looking forward to a sequel to "Samurai Summer."
: He just gave up being a star five years ago. Actually, now that I think about it... That was right when Ms. Vasquez came to Global.
: (Five years ago...?)

That's about all we can get out of Will, I think. Let's head to the studio.





: ... ... ...
: The old windbag sure is quiet today.
: ...
: You know, this place is really... peaceful, like this.
: ...
: Nick? I think her guard's down...
: Y-yeah?
: I bet we could even eat those donuts in the guard station... if we wanted.
: ... You eat, you die.
: Whew! She's alive!





: Um, I was wondering about Dee Vasquez, the producer.
: Oh, the studio bigwigs LOVE her. So she always gets her way.
: (She seems bitter...)
: Do you... not like the producer?
: Look, the studio people don't want me talking her, so, sorry.



: Can I ask you about Sal Manella, the director?
: Sal? He's soft--a pushover. Does whatever Vasquez tells him to.
: She treats him like dirt, but I think he likes it.
: Huh? Why would anyone like being treated like dirt?
: That doesn't make any sense, does it, Nick?
: Er... No, no it doesn't, Maya.



: About Mr. Hammer...
: Arrgh! I heard about what you said today! Cheeky whippersnapper! Poor old Hammer! You'd drag his star down from the sky and stomp on it! Calling him a criminal! A thief! I-I-I-I... I won't forget this!!!
: (Uh oh, she's really pissed this time!)
: You listen to me, whippersnapper! My poor old Hammer would never do such a thing! Why would he steal Powers's costume so he could sneak by me? He would never stoop so low! It's impossible!

Perhaps it's best to retreat while she's shouting.





: I guess they're not filming today, either. I did want to see them filming... just one time.
: This trial will be over and done by tomorrow. You can come see them film later.
: I guess...



: Uh huh.
: I wonder if there're any other clues lying around.





: No no no! No touchin'!



: Didn't mean to frighten you.
: D-didn't mean...? I almost had a heart attack!
: Heh heh. I guess I can be a little dramatique at times...
: I suppose it's the actor in me...
: ("Dramatique" indeed...)
: Ahem.
: Anyway, I'm here to examine the plate on that table.
: Wait, are you looking for sleeping pills?
: Yeah, pal. Traces thereof.





: So you're looking for traces of the sleeping pills... how?
: For a thorough examination I gotta take the plate back to the precinct. But I have the capabilities to make a cursory examination right here!



: This reacts to sleeping pills, see? If there're traces it'll change color.
: Wow! Neat! Well, Detective Gumshoe? What are you waiting for?
: Now, now, everything in due time, pal.



: ... ... Well, the testing solution on the plate changed color alright.





: Looks like it.





: How goes your investigation?
: To tell the truth, it's a real mess, pal.
: Some people think we should pursue the case we already have against Powers... And some people think we should switch suspects!
: What do you think, Detective Gumshoe?
: Well, pal, I hate to admit it... But I'm not sure I buy the case against Mr. Powers any more. I feel kind of bad for Mr. Edgeworth, though.



: How is Edgeworth doing, anyway?
: Edgeworth is out of control!
: He was in the waiting room and he crushed this paper cup with hot, hot coffee in it.
: Whoa...
: Talk about burns, pal!
: Wow! The fury of Edgeworth!
: Yeah, crushing paper cups... (Cups... bottles...?)



: Oh, the bottle of sleeping pills?
: Well, I got some good news for you about that. They found the victim, Jack Hammer's prints on the bottle.
: So that means...
: Yep, it sounds like the one who put Powers to sleep was none other than... the victim!
: (So I was right!)



Now, we'll leave the detective to his work.





: What are you doing here?
: Oh... I was just cleaning up the dressing room. I guess WP won't be using it anymore, so...
: Wha!? What!? Why!? But WP's innocent!
: Yes, and I'm really grateful for all you've done. But... This week is the last episode of the Steel Samurai...







: I was wondering if I could ask you about Mr. Hammer.
: Yes?
: On the day of the murder, he went to Studio Two.
: Huh? I thought he went to Studio One?
: He stole the Steel Samurai costume, too!
: What!? Why would Mr. Hammer do something like that? ... Oh...
: I guess the rumor must be true, then.
: The rumor?



: Yeah. Ms. Vasquez, that producer, had some kind of hold on Hammer. She had some dirt on him... He'd do anything she said, apparently.
: Some "dirt"?
: What dirt!
: ... Dirt. You know, bad stuff.
: ...
: Um, I know what dirt means...
: About five years ago, they were filming a movie starring Mr. Hammer. They were using the new studio... Studio Two. Some sort of accident happened during filming.
: After that, they never used Studio Two again. They left the film set the way it was, too.
: (The film set...? Was that trailer part of the film set, then?)



: W-what do you mean, the "last Steel Samurai"!?
: I know it's a shock, but nothing can be done to save it now. Whoever really did kill Mr. Hammer, also signed the Steel Samurai's death warrant.
: No... no!
: Also, I hear that Global Studios is going to change its programming. They're not going to make kids' shows anymore.



: I don't know. It's sad, but that's what Global Studios decided.



: Why aren't they going to make kids' shows anymore?
: The studio bigwigs don't want the Steel Samurai around anymore. They want to forget all this ever happened. They want it quiet, you understand?
: H-how can they just do that!
: What about all the kids who love the Steel Samurai!
: It's okay. I'm sure the kids iwll be fine. They'll find a new hero to follow.
: No, that can't be true! If the program just ends, they'll be heartbroken for sure!
: N-Nick! Say something!
: Umm... yeah.
: (I think evidence, rather than words, is called for here.)



This shouldn't be hard to figure out.












: And this is...?



: The kids love the Steel Samurai! The show shouldn't be cancelled just so some adults can save face! I would think you would understand that better than anyone.
: ... ... You're right...
: Okay! But what can I do?
: Well, for starters... You can tell me something. Tell me what it is that Global Studios is so intent on hiding? Tell me about this accident five years ago.
: ... Okay!



: Could you tell us what happened five years ago?



: Well, I can tell you what I've heard. Apparently, five years ago, someone died... and it was Hammer's fault.
: S-someone died!?
: It was an accident, of course! Anyway...
: The producer, Ms. Vasquez managed to hush it up.
: And that's the "dirt" she had on Mr. Hammer?
: And that's why Mr. Hammer would do anything Ms. Vasquez asked him to do! ... But, it was an accident, right? Why didn't they just make it public?
: Well, you know Mr. Hammer was a big star back then. They were afraid about what would happen to his career if word got out.
: I see...
: You know who knows more about this? Ms. Oldbag. She was here at the studios back then, you know.
: Thanks, We'll try asking her.

Yeah, they mistake a comma for a period there.

: (If she'll talk...)

Anyway, let's talk to her.





: If you like the place so much, why don't you take over for me?
: The old windbag doesn't look so good...
: E-everybody's doing their darnedest to forget Hammer. Who do they think made Global Studios what it is today? Hammer! It's all due to Hammer!
: She's starting to froth at the mouth, Nick...
: Maybe we should keep a safe distance?



: Umm... I wanted to ask you about five years ago...
: ! Who told!? Who did you hear that from!?
: I, uh... huh?
: Nichols!
: N-nickels?



: O-oh, right. Anyway, we heard about the accident. It was during filming with Jack Hammer... He killed a man. Didn't he?
: Wh-whippersnappers! Dredging up dirt on someone's past like that... and the recently departed, no less! I suppose you think this is fun!?
: N-no, I'm just doing my job to protect Mr. Powers...
: And you claim that Hammer stole Powers's costume! You expect me to believe that rubbish!? Or do you have some kind of proof?





: Proof? Well... no.
: See! See!? I see how you work! Anything that doesn't fit, you just blame on the dead!
: Well... well... Just butt out, lawyer-boy!
: (She knows something! But how am I going to get her to talk...?)



: I'm sorry Ms. Oldbag, but I do have proof.



: Here's my proof.



: It's a bottle of sleeping pills. With Mr. Hammer's fingerprints on it...
: Wh-what does that prove? I'm... I'm sure old Hammer had some sleepless nights!



: Mr. Powers ate a t-bone steak for lunch, correct?
: W-well... yes. So?



: There are traces of sleeping pill powder on the plate!
: ...! ...
: ... I see. Poor, poor Hammer. You did wrong, Hammer, rest your soul.
: Ms. Oldbag...?
: Okay. You win. I'll talk. I'm tried, see... Tired of holding it all in.
: Ms. Oldbag...



: You're right. Five years ago there was an accident... a fatal accident. What's worse, a paparazzi took a photo of it. That photo, well, it caused quite a stir.



: She has ties to the mafia... She silenced that paparazzi.
: That was the beginning. After that, she became a force to be reckoned with here at the studio.
: I see...!
: But, you have to understand... Poor old Hammer never meant any harm to anyone!
: Ms. Oldbag...
: Hold on a minute.
: Poor Mis. Oldbag...



: ...? A photograph?



: W-wait a second!
: This is the picture.
: Is... this the trailer in Studio Two?
: Hammer was supposed to fight with a bad guy on the top of those stairs, there. He pushed the other actor, and the man fell onto the flowerbox fence.



: It... was a long time ago. I don't feel much like talking about it.
: I understand...



Next time: Truth?

St. Johns County, Florida Ordinance 1992-12 posted:

Buttocks: The area at the rear of the human body (sometimes referred to as the glutaeus maximus) which lies between two imaginary straight lines running parallel to the ground when a person is standing, the first or top such line being 1/2 inch below the top of the vertical cleavage of the nates (i.e., the prominence formed by the muscles running from the back of the hip to the back of the leg) and the second or bottom such line being 1/2 inch above the lowest point of the curvature of the fleshly protuberance (sometimes referred to as the gluteal fold), and between two imaginary straight lines, one on each side of the body (the "outside lines"), which outside lines are perpendicular to the ground and to the horizontal lines described above andw hich perpendicular outside lines pass through the outermost point(s) at which each nate meets the outer side of each leg. Notwithstanding the above, Buttocks shall not include the leg, the hamstring muscle below the gluteal fold, the tensor fasciae latae muscle or any of the above described portion of the human body that is between either (i) the left inside perpendicular line and the left outside perpendicular line or (ii) the right inside perpendicular line and the right outside perpendicular line. For the purpose of the previous sentence the left inside perpendicular line shall be an imaginary straight line on the left side of the anus (i) that is perpendicular to the ground and to the horizontal lines described above and (ii) that is 1/3 of the distance from the anus to the left outside line, and the right inside perpendicular line shall be an imaginary straight line on the right side of the anus (i) that is perpendicular to the ground and to the horizontal lines described above and (ii) that is 1/3 of the distance from the anus to the right outside line.
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Mors Rattus fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jan 31, 2017

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I think someone in the last thread pointed out that the theme of this case is how a fan reacts to their idol. Someone better suited to write up an analysis could probably handle all the fine details, but you have things like Maya's initial reaction to Powers, Cody testifying and being unable to cope with the Steel Samurai losing, Oldbag's devotion to Hammer until she finds out what he did, etc.

Stephen9001
Oct 28, 2013
...Why does the Florida ordinance have a definition of what Buttocks are?

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Because another law references how you need to cover your buttocks, and they needed to legally define buttocks.

They went for the longest and most obtusely precise definition possible.

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Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
Interestingly, while the intention of the exclusions is somewhat obvious, a (presumably unintentional) inversion of one of the clauses means that "buttocks", in Florida, actually just means the rear end in a top hat itself.

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