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Cyouni
Sep 30, 2014

without love it cannot be seen
Given she was apparently using it as a combat simulator/trainer for the others, I think she got her money's worth out of it.

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Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Waffleman_ posted:

There was a Sailor V video game in the anime, and Sailor V was a real person. Did Minako actually license her likeness out or is there skullduggery afoot?

I always wondered that as a kid, and I thought it seemed like a really cool idea. If you're going to be a super hero you might as well make some cash by selling your likeness to video games and TV shows right?

Unfortunately I don't think it was ever brought up, at least not in the English dub.

hopeandjoy
Nov 28, 2014



There are also Sailor Moon dolls floating around background shots later in the anime.

I'm guessing Japanese toy manufactures just really wanted to sell some stuff based off of the mysterious superheros they have.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

In that case, would you be able to sue without revealing your identity?

berryjon
May 30, 2011

I have an invasion to go to.

Waffleman_ posted:

In that case, would you be able to sue without revealing your identity?

I loved that Marvel and DC actually addressed those issues. IIRC, Superman has no problem with you doing Merch with the S on it as long as you can prove you're donating profits to charity. I'm certain that the Flash has his own merch as well. Maybe Wayne takes care of that? And Matt Murdock has been known to take on cases for super heroes who can't or won't reveal their public identity.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


berryjon posted:

I loved that Marvel and DC actually addressed those issues. IIRC, Superman has no problem with you doing Merch with the S on it as long as you can prove you're donating profits to charity. I'm certain that the Flash has his own merch as well. Maybe Wayne takes care of that? And Matt Murdock has been known to take on cases for super heroes who can't or won't reveal their public identity.

See, this is the kind of world building stuff I find fascinating.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING
Meanwhile, Spider-Man is hosed because having never revealed himself, he can't sue. It's just that old PARKER LUCK!!!

Anoia
Dec 31, 2003

"Sooner or later, every curse is a prayer."

Waffleman_ posted:

In that case, would you be able to sue without revealing your identity?

Japan is weird about copyrights. See also: JoJo

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



END ME SCOOB posted:

Meanwhile, Spider-Man is hosed because having never revealed himself, he can't sue. It's just that old PARKER LUCK!!!

He sued J Jonah once. Successfully!

It's just the case extended to include Peter Parker, and suddenly Spider-Man got cold feet for some reason.

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

END ME SCOOB posted:

She ends up being reborn in a non-hosed up baby human body after Infinity ends, with Hotaru and Michiru raising her

I think you goofed, but I'm just going to accept this as canon.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

I stabbed you dude!
So I loaded up my old save file and I completely forgot about the actually somewhat cool thing the game does with the final boss. I don't think I've ever seen it in any other game. I'm mostly posting this so that I remember to talk about it when the time comes, unless Scoob already plans on it.

SystemLogoff
Feb 19, 2011

End Session?

So this Let's Play has got me listening to the Sailor Business Podcast.

Thank you for that.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING
I do because it is also one of those things I praise.

Except for showing off in an LP.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Rabbi Raccoon posted:

Nope.

Gaea was here first. She birthed Uranus, the sky. Then married him because people were weird back then. Uranus did the dirty with Gaes and created Kronos/Cronus. Uranus became a dick because in mythology everyone does, so Gaea gave Kronos a sickle to kill him with (and his blood fell in the ocean and became Aphrodite).

What are you, Edith Hamilton? Uranius' severed dick fell in the ocean and Aphrodite rose up from the foam. Or Zeus sired her on one of his Titan aunts as was his way. Or those are actually two different goddesses representing different aspects of love, one base and physical and the other pure and spiritual.

Great now I have to make this relevant to this Sailor Moon game. Umm... The nega-verse sailor scouts names all coordinate to their respective scouts, too.
Sin, a moon god = Sailor Moon
Nabu, a god of scholarship = Neptune Mercury,
Nergal, a war god = Mars
Ishtar, love and fertility goddess= Venus
and Marduk as head of the pantheon = Jupiter.
I don't know why Babylonian mythology is the evil one, but I feel like I missed the chance to write a bullshit college essay on cultural imperialism about it.

there wolf fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jun 16, 2016

EclecticTastes
Sep 17, 2012

"Most plans are critically flawed by their own logic. A failure at any step will ruin everything after it. That's just basic cause and effect. It's easy for a good plan to fall apart. Therefore, a plan that has no attachment to logic cannot be stopped."

there wolf posted:

I don't know why Babylonian mythology is the evil one, but I feel like I missed the chance to write a bullshit college essay on cultural imperialism about it.

I'm no theologian, but the Babylonian pantheon was the primary rival faced by early Judaic people, so they ended up portrayed in Judaic mythology as demons and such, which ended up tainting their reputation in modern pop culture as that trickled down through the thousands of years and two major offshoot religions. Plus, when it comes to obscure Judaic lore, anime and Japanese games have way the hell more of it than you'd expect (a good way to get blackout drunk is to play a drinking game of watching different anime and spotting the Kabbalah Tree of Life), I wouldn't be surprised if the Opposito Senshi were, in fact, named more for the Judaic interpretations of the Babylonian pantheon than for the original pantheon.

Roro
Oct 9, 2012

HOO'S HEAD GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND?

there wolf posted:

What are you, Edith Hamilton? Uranius' severed dick fell in the ocean and Aphrodite rose up from the foam. Or Zeus sired her on one of his Titan aunts as was his way. Or those are actually two different goddesses representing different aspects of love, one base and physical and the other pure and spiritual.

Great now I have to make this relevant to this Sailor Moon game. Umm... The nega-verse sailor scouts names all coordinate to their respective scouts, too.
Sin, a moon god = Sailor Moon
Nabu, a god of scholarship = Neptune,
Nergal, a war god = Mars
Ishtar, love and fertility goddess= Venus
and Marduk as head of the pantheon = Jupiter.
I don't know why Babylonian mythology is the evil one, but I feel like I missed the chance to write a bullshit college essay on cultural imperialism about it.

Mercury's the nerd, Neptune's the musician.

a cartoon duck
Sep 5, 2011

On the topic Haruka calling Usagi dumpling head/odango/whatever, the German dub went with "Mondgesicht", literally translating as "moon face" and meaning something like "having a round/chubby face". Doesn't make a whole ton of sense with Takeuchi's rail-thin characters but at least we got a moon joke in.

kefkafloyd posted:

I've wondered the same thing. If I'm Minako, I'm wondering where all my royalty checks from those Sailor V toys and games are.

I'm sure she can just ask her number one fan, the Tokyo chief of police, to collect checks for her.

Lizard Wizard posted:

I think you goofed, but I'm just going to accept this as canon.

You'll be happy to know this is not a goof at all and the gay couple ends up raising baby Death.

Edit: I am questioning my own powers of literacy right now.

a cartoon duck fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Jun 16, 2016

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

a cartoon duck posted:

You'll be happy to know this is not a goof at all and the gay couple ends up raising baby Death.

Reread that. He's giving me (earned) poo poo because I wrote that the baby is raising herself.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

END ME SCOOB posted:

Reread that. He's giving me (earned) poo poo because I wrote that the baby is raising herself.
At this point, I wouldn't put anything past this series.

ddegenha
Jan 28, 2009

What is this?!

FractalSandwich posted:

At this point, I wouldn't put anything past this series.

I know where I come from, but what about all of you zombies?


Endorph posted:

This'd also explain why Usagi and Minako are fairly similar personality-wise, if Takeuchi was making a new main character for marketing reasons instead of because she was getting bored with Minako.

If you view Earth and the Moon as being tied together, and I believe that some recent analysis has shown that the moon was originally part of Earth, having Minako be so similar makes a certain amount of sense since there are a lot of similarities between the two.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

a cartoon duck posted:

On the topic Haruka calling Usagi dumpling head/odango/whatever, the German dub went with "Mondgesicht", literally translating as "moon face" and meaning something like "having a round/chubby face". Doesn't make a whole ton of sense with Takeuchi's rail-thin characters but at least we got a moon joke in.
believe it or not takeuchi specifically notes in artbooks and stuff that usagi is supposed to be chubby, which, lol

Suzaku
Feb 15, 2012

EclecticTastes posted:

I'm no theologian, but the Babylonian pantheon was the primary rival faced by early Judaic people, so they ended up portrayed in Judaic mythology as demons and such, which ended up tainting their reputation in modern pop culture as that trickled down through the thousands of years and two major offshoot religions. Plus, when it comes to obscure Judaic lore, anime and Japanese games have way the hell more of it than you'd expect (a good way to get blackout drunk is to play a drinking game of watching different anime and spotting the Kabbalah Tree of Life), I wouldn't be surprised if the Opposito Senshi were, in fact, named more for the Judaic interpretations of the Babylonian pantheon than for the original pantheon.

And then there was the time when most of the Judaic population was uprooted and shipped off to Babylon. Until Cyrus later conquered it and let them go back home.

Early Judaic people had a pretty up close and personal exposure to the Babylonian religion. Which is probably one of the reasons that Judaism incorporated as much Babylonian stuff as it did, even through the dawn of Christianity.

Ryushikaze
Mar 5, 2013

ddegenha posted:

I know where I come from, but what about all of you zombies?


If you view Earth and the Moon as being tied together, and I believe that some recent analysis has shown that the moon was originally part of Earth, having Minako be so similar makes a certain amount of sense since there are a lot of similarities between the two.

Except Minako is Sailor Venus, not Earth. The representative of Earth in Sailor Moon is Tuxy.

If they had had Mini Moon be Sailor Earth, it would have held together, though probably would have worked better symbolically in the reverse, with the mom as the earth and the child as the moon.

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

Endorph posted:

believe it or not takeuchi specifically notes in artbooks and stuff that usagi is supposed to be chubby, which, lol

I mean, she does like her junk food.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

EclecticTastes posted:

I'm no theologian, but the Babylonian pantheon was the primary rival faced by early Judaic people, so they ended up portrayed in Judaic mythology as demons and such, which ended up tainting their reputation in modern pop culture as that trickled down through the thousands of years and two major offshoot religions. Plus, when it comes to obscure Judaic lore, anime and Japanese games have way the hell more of it than you'd expect (a good way to get blackout drunk is to play a drinking game of watching different anime and spotting the Kabbalah Tree of Life), I wouldn't be surprised if the Opposito Senshi were, in fact, named more for the Judaic interpretations of the Babylonian pantheon than for the original pantheon.

Oh so you did want that essay.

I'm kidding. Now that I'm not posting-while-sleepy, I feel confident saying that the Judaic connection fails Occam's Razor. The Babylonians liked affiliating planets with their gods, too, and the result is totally what you expect.

Nabu = Mercury
Nergal = Mars
Ishtar = Venus
Marduk = Jupiter.

So they probably just pulled up some some encyclopedia entry on each planet and flipped to the mythology part, picking the first pantheon that wasn't Greek/Roman. The characteristics match up like they do because Mesopotamian culture has a shadow that stretches for millennia. Mercury is the only one that doesn't line up so it's probably just a coincidence that Sailor Mercury is a bookish nerd and her evil counterpart is named for a god of writing.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
On the subject of Babylonian gods being the evil ones, you'll notice that the angels in Paradise Lost have Hebrew names and most of Satan's fallen host have Latin, Greek, and Babylonian names.

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

Lizard Wizard posted:

I mean, she does like her junk food.

I distinctly remember an episode of the anime in which the monster of the episode gave everyone in town tooth cavities and they hurt like a bitch. They defeat it and everything's fine, all the cavities disappear... except for Usagi's and Chibi-usa's, since theirs weren't caused by the monsters but by eating junk food and not brushing their teeth afterwards :allears:

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Mikl posted:

I distinctly remember an episode of the anime in which the monster of the episode gave everyone in town tooth cavities and they hurt like a bitch. They defeat it and everything's fine, all the cavities disappear... except for Usagi's and Chibi-usa's, since theirs weren't caused by the monsters but by eating junk food and not brushing their teeth afterwards :allears:

Is that the one where Tuxedo Mask goes on this huge motivational speech about how he can't forgive Evil Dentists? :allears: Like, some of the old DIC dubs were great, but Mamoru's original monologues whenever he shows up as Tuxedo Mask are... they're special, all right.

hopeandjoy
Nov 28, 2014



KataraniSword posted:

Is that the one where Tuxedo Mask goes on this huge motivational speech about how he can't forgive Evil Dentists? :allears: Like, some of the old DIC dubs were great, but Mamoru's original monologues whenever he shows up as Tuxedo Mask are... they're special, all right.

My favorite is the time both he and Usagi give the same speech about supermarkets and the public health in R. While they were broken up (for stupid anime-only reasons involving Mamoru's future self).

Sailor Moon might being drowning in filler, but it's stupidly entertaining filler dammit.

kefkafloyd
Jun 8, 2006

What really knocked me out
Was her cheap sunglasses

KataraniSword posted:

Is that the one where Tuxedo Mask goes on this huge motivational speech about how he can't forgive Evil Dentists? :allears: Like, some of the old DIC dubs were great, but Mamoru's original monologues whenever he shows up as Tuxedo Mask are... they're special, all right.

That's the very one. It had a bit where Usagi and the others were teasing Chibi-Usa about the terribleness of the Juban dentist.

It's adorable that Chibi-Usa didn't know what a cavity or dentist was, apparently the power of the Silver Crystal gives everyone perfect teeth. It was like Kirk and Spock forgetting money existed.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

You'd think at some point residents would be wary of free stuff, given how many villains used Free goodies/Services to cause mayhem.

kefkafloyd
Jun 8, 2006

What really knocked me out
Was her cheap sunglasses

Robindaybird posted:

You'd think at some point residents would be wary of free stuff, given how many villains used Free goodies/Services to cause mayhem.

Look, if I'm in the Juban district, I would not want to hit up any store that hasn't been there longer than a month. Who the hell keeps cashing the rent checks from the Dark Kingdom and Black Moon Clan?

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

kefkafloyd posted:

Look, if I'm in the Juban district, I would not want to hit up any store that hasn't been there longer than a month. Who the hell keeps cashing the rent checks from the Dark Kingdom and Black Moon Clan?

They fund all their operations by selling negative energy to the power companies.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

kefkafloyd posted:

Look, if I'm in the Juban district, I would not want to hit up any store that hasn't been there longer than a month. Who the hell keeps cashing the rent checks from the Dark Kingdom and Black Moon Clan?
They could just agree to pay higher rent if they are allowed to pay it after the first three months knowing they'll get discovered and defeated well before that so they won't actually have to pay anything at all.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Poil posted:

They could just agree to pay higher rent if they are allowed to pay it after the first three months knowing they'll get discovered and defeated well before that so they won't actually have to pay anything at all.

I could see that working maybe a few times before word got around and nobody bought that line anymore.

The real answer is Queen Beryl/The Monster of the Week mindfucks everyone involved.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

RickVoid posted:

The real answer is Queen Beryl/The Monster of the Week mindfucks everyone involved The Maxfield Stanton Memorial Small Business Grant

That podcast really does get excellent.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

kefkafloyd posted:

It's adorable that Chibi-Usa didn't know what a cavity or dentist was, apparently the power of the Silver Crystal gives everyone perfect teeth. It was like Kirk and Spock forgetting money existed.

Crystal Tokyo is basically a socialist utopia.

Which is why we need to elect Bernie and establish Crystal Washington.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Waffleman_ posted:

Which is why we need to elect Bernie and establish Crystal Washington.

Man, I'm left as gently caress and even I'm horrified by a Silver-Haired Millennium of Larry David.

Hi, it's a slow night at work but I don't have my PC here to edit poo poo.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

When you think about it, Trump is basically Queen Beryl.

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FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

END ME SCOOB posted:

Hi, it's a slow night at work but I don't have my PC here to edit poo poo.
Hello. We've had some dreadful weather here lately, but I'm enjoying my Saturday anyway. I'll probably play some Odin Sphere later.

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