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It was a major mistake to not make She Hulk the leader of the whatever-you-call-Captain-Marvel's-side. It would raise the problem of how do you get readers to side against She Hulk, but at least I'd have a side lead by a character I actively like.
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I think BSS drastically underestimates how popular Captain Marvel is.
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Jun 22, 2016 01:58
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I love Carol but her comics have not been that great. She deserves better.
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Jun 22, 2016 02:11
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Her new series is fantastic. And once they cast an Oscar winner in the film role shell get a permanent center spotlight in the comics
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Jun 22, 2016 02:13
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JoshTheStampede posted:I think BSS drastically underestimates how popular Captain Marvel is. Not really. Marvel's been trying really hard to make her happen, and she's nowhere near as popular as Ms. Marvel or Squirrel Girl. And the "Carol Corps" on the internet are really just super annoying KSD fans that left the book when she did.
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Jun 22, 2016 02:17
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Rhyno posted:Her new series is fantastic. And once they cast an Oscar winner in the film role shell get a permanent center spotlight in the comics I don't really read Marvel hardly at all so I don't know what's good. I'll try to check it out.
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Jun 22, 2016 02:19
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Her new series is just okay. Let's not be throwing around words like "fantastic" to describe it when she's also on the ultimates, which is a genuinely fantastic book. The series has insanely hella good covers though.
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Jun 22, 2016 02:21
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Things in Marvel space generally are pretty boring to me so I guess I'm at a pretty big disadvantage for liking her solo series and Ultimates. I don't know what it is about stories in space, but I love them in video games, movies, regular books, etc but comic book space never interests me. I guess my weird aversion to space is probably why I don't like Carol that much v v.In A-Force she's fine but not particularly noteworthy. Definitely behind Dazzler, Nico, and She Hulk but ahead of Medusa in terms of likability.
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Jun 22, 2016 02:46
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Captain Marvel's current series is great stuff. One of the better books Marvel is putting out right now.
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Jun 22, 2016 02:50
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DrProsek posted:In A-Force she's fine but not particularly noteworthy. Definitely behind Dazzler, Nico, and She Hulk but ahead of Medusa in terms of likability. STOP TRYING TO MAKE THE INHUMANS HAPPEN, MARVEL. IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN
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Jun 22, 2016 03:13
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If they really want Carol to be super popular they should have put her in a movie sooner
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Jun 22, 2016 03:21
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I still think she's not getting a movie.
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Jun 22, 2016 03:22
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God three books sure is forcing Inhumans down our throats. Not like, say, deadpool with his half-dozen books or x-men with their over a dozen titles of various types or wolverine who, despite being dead, has two solo books right now. Like seriously dislike the Inhumans all you loving want but don't pretend they're dominating the scene when all they have is uncanny and all-new. And especially don't turn around and praise how awesome Ms. Marvel is in the same breath.
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Jun 22, 2016 03:31
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Toxxupation posted:God three books sure is forcing Inhumans down our throats. If you're counting Ms Marvel as an Inhuman, you need to count Squirrel Girl as a mutant, because they're about equally connected to those titles, which is to say not in the least bit.
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Jun 22, 2016 03:35
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Gaz-L posted:If you're counting Ms Marvel as an Inhuman, you need to count Squirrel Girl as a mutant, because they're about equally connected to those titles, which is to say not in the least bit.  
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Jun 22, 2016 03:38
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Gaz-L posted:If you're counting Ms Marvel as an Inhuman, you need to count Squirrel Girl as a mutant, because they're about equally connected to those titles, which is to say not in the least bit. Just wait until you read tomorrow's issue of Ms Marvel.
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Jun 22, 2016 03:39
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Ms Marvel has been on and off connected with Inhumans for sure. Also the Inhumans are great and have been great for decades, but like everything they have their bad spells as well (we don't talk about Sean McKeever's run).
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Jun 22, 2016 03:45
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I really didn't like how Hickman used the Inhumans. I'm glad they're free from his clutches now, and are owning nightclubs in celebration.
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Jun 22, 2016 03:46
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X-O posted:Ms Marvel has been on and off connected with Inhumans for sure. Also the Inhumans are great and have been great for decades, but like everything they have their bad spells as well (we don't talk about Sean McKeever's run). Uncanny Inhumans is so drat good right now, especially the newest issue. I've fallen far behind on All New but UI, Ms Marvel and Karnak are all fantastic books.
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Jun 22, 2016 03:47
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Rhyno posted:Uncanny Inhumans is so drat good right now, especially the newest issue. I've fallen far behind on All New but UI, Ms Marvel and Karnak are all fantastic books. Me and the other 3 people actually reading it really like Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur as well.
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Jun 22, 2016 03:47
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Toxxupation posted:God three books sure is forcing Inhumans down our throats. I'm baffled that the Inhumans have a single book, let alone three. I kinda see where they're coming from honestly. They're C list at best and someone at Marvel sure seems to care about them all of a sudden. You'd get the same reaction if Alpha Flight or The Wild Pack suddenly had three ongoing comic books and somehow a movie on the horizon.
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Jun 22, 2016 03:47
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X-O posted:Me and the other 3 people actually reading it really like Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur as well. First issue didn't do anything for me at all. I guess I'll have to grab the Timely reprint tomorrow and give it another go.
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Jun 22, 2016 03:49
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Travis343 posted:I'm baffled that the Inhumans have a single book, let alone three. I kinda see where they're coming from honestly. They're C list at best and someone at Marvel sure seems to care about them all of a sudden. That's it. That's why. It's so nakedly, cynically corporate and nobody's fooled and I hate it.
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X-O posted:Me and the other 3 people actually reading it really like Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur as well. 4
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CapnAndy posted:Hint: if they make a new character whose origin is being a mutant, those film rights automatically go to Fox, and that is not the case if they're an Inhuman instead. Hint: If it's a good book the motivations don't matter. You think that Marvel just up and decided one day to make a big drive on female or minority led books out of the goodness of their heart? Everything is a business decision. If we get good books out it then that's a good thing.
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Jun 22, 2016 03:59
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X-O posted:Hint: If it's a good book the motivations don't matter.
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Jun 22, 2016 04:01
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No Inhuman will ever be as terrible as Jubilee.
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Jun 22, 2016 04:03
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Gaz-L posted:If you're counting Ms Marvel as an Inhuman, you need to count Squirrel Girl as a mutant, because they're about equally connected to those titles, which is to say not in the least bit. An ongoing joke of USG is how she's not a mutant. I don't think there's been a single issue of North's run where Squirrel Girl has worked with a mutant to any significant degree, and there's certainly never been an issue or arc of Squirrel Girl centered in or around famous mutant locations - no stories at Genosha, Jean Grey school, etc. The themes of USG aren't X-Men-like themes - she's not really minority, she's not hated for being different, she's not persecuted. She's well-liked if a bit shy, she's not a horny teen, even beyond the retcon she's very much Not a Mutant. In contrast Ms. Marvel had a major arc of the story be her meeting with and learning her Inhuman heritage, she spends her free time training in New Attilan, she had a major arc where she developed a major crush on a fellow Inhuman (who betrayed her and she ended up fighting her way out of New Attilan), she met Medusa who gifted her Lockjaw as a pet. The major themes of Ms. Marvel center around Kamala's desire to be a superhero - specifically a white, western superhero considering that's who she grew up idolizing - while working against the trappings of her culture while still respecting them. As a character, Kamala Khan is trapped between the fact that she's the daughter of immigrants who end up in a culture where women have strictly defined roles and a lot of her stories deal with attempting to still embrace her Pakistani heritage. She's got the typical immigrant story, where she feels stuck between two cultures and not necessary belonging to either, and the revelation that she's an Inhuman - that she's not even a member of the human race, which she had long since assumed - gives her an even heavier feeling of Otherness. GWW has, so far, been drawing fairly heavy parallels between Kamala's Pakistani-American-ness and how that's caused her troubles and her Inhuman-ness and how that's caused her troubles, while both cultures allow her to suddenly find other like-minded individuals who can sympathize with her plight.
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Jun 22, 2016 04:05
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Rhyno posted:Men in Black - 1997, I Robot - 2004, Hancock - 2008, Focus - 2015. All white ladies. Did he kiss any of those ladies on screen?
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Jun 22, 2016 04:06
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CapnAndy posted:It neither makes the Inhumans cool nor good, though, and never will, no matter how many mutants they slap a quick Terrigenesis cloud on. Well Inhumans have the advantage of being used so infrequently over the years that most of their prominent non crossover related stuff is actually rather good. Whereas the X-Men have been so overexposed that the vast majority of their stuff ranges from not very good to complete garbage even though there is a lot of great stuff too.
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Toxxupation posted:An ongoing joke of USG is how she's not a mutant. I don't think there's been a single issue of North's run where Squirrel Girl has worked with a mutant to any significant degree, and there's certainly never been an issue or arc of Squirrel Girl centered in or around famous mutant locations - no stories at Genosha, Jean Grey school, etc. The themes of USG aren't X-Men-like themes - she's not really minority, she's not hated for being different, she's not persecuted. She's well-liked if a bit shy, she's not a horny teen, even beyond the retcon she's very much Not a Mutant. Squirrel Girl just teamed up with All New Wolverine in that book, and she's in New Avengers, a team funded by a founding member of New Mutants.
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Travis343 posted:I'm baffled that the Inhumans have a single book, let alone three. I kinda see where they're coming from honestly. They're C list at best and someone at Marvel sure seems to care about them all of a sudden. Well considering that Uncanny Inhumans 10 is probably the single best issue of a series I've read this year (Vision excepted), it might, you know, have to do with Charles Soule doing a fantastic job updating the Inhumans and given them modern, fresh stories to work with. Like seriously the people complaining about the Inhumans - are you even reading the two main books? Because Uncanny is loving fantastic and All-New is a typical team-up book except with an interesting conceit of "following the Terrigen clouds and trying to clean up Black Bolt's mess in our awesome floating ship". gently caress, All-New Inhumans has a couple of mutants in it.
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Rhyno posted:No Inhuman will ever be as terrible as Jubilee. Too late man, they already made Inhumans that aren't Lockjaw and Ms Marvel. E: Toxxupation posted:Like seriously the people complaining about the Inhumans - are you even reading the two main books? Yes I am. Uncanny I come very close to liking but it feels like the arcs don't flow together well and the books lose momentum every time an arc changes. All New on the other hand is pretty unremarkable and I don't really care about any of the characters in it. burnishedfume fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Jun 22, 2016 |
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Jun 22, 2016 04:20
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Rhyno posted:No Inhuman will ever be as radical as Jubilee.
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Toxxupation posted:Like seriously the people complaining about the Inhumans - are you even reading the two main books? Well I doubt it, it's dumb to read stuff you don't like. DrProsek posted:Yes I am. Uncanny I come very close to liking but it feels like the arcs don't flow together well and the books lose momentum every time an arc changes. All New on the other hand is pretty unremarkable and I don't really care about any of the characters in it. Hey! Stop reading stuff you don't like!
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I'm definitely not reading Inhumans. Not only do I not really read Marvel I have never been the least bit interested in the concept, or thought any of the characters were interesting in any of the books they popped up in when I did read Marvel. The closest I have come is I keep meaning to give Ms Marvel a spin because it seems good. I honestly did not know she was an inhuman until just now, though. It's like Cyborg over at DC, both of them were niche at best until just recently and both feel like a really transparent push from the companies, Inhumans because Marvel has their film rights and Cyborg because DC erased every other black superhero from continuity. If you're a fan of these characters I could see you not caring about the circumstances behind them getting that push, and just being happy to get more good comics starring your faves. More power to you. I hope they stay good for a real long time. It's not something I'm going to suddenly care about, though.
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Skwirl posted:Did he kiss any of those ladies on screen? Kissing is not required to be the romantic lead!
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Travis343 posted:I'm baffled that the Inhumans have a single book, let alone three. I kinda see where they're coming from honestly. They're C list at best and someone at Marvel sure seems to care about them all of a sudden. That movie is not going to happen. They de-scheduled it, and Agents of SHIELD this season basically proved that no one cares about Inhumans in the MCU, at least. Combined with the logistical impossibility of making a movie that obeys TV canon events, and the fact that they've developed Inhuman stuff EXCLUSIVELY on TV, there's just no way they'll ever make an Inhumans movie.
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JoshTheStampede posted:That movie is not going to happen. They de-scheduled it, and Agents of SHIELD this season basically proved that no one cares about Inhumans in the MCU, at least. Combined with the logistical impossibility of making a movie that obeys TV canon events, and the fact that they've developed Inhuman stuff EXCLUSIVELY on TV, there's just no way they'll ever make an Inhumans movie. It will probably happen eventually and they will 100% ignore Agents of Shield because that's how Marvel Studios is already treating it. Because it's bad.
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X-O posted:Hey! Stop reading stuff you don't like! It is too late to stop me, fool! Even as we speak, forces under my command are mobilizing. By the morning, Civil War II: Choosing Sides #1 will be in my possession. Ban me all you like, your meager resistance will only strengthen my resolve! ...I don't dislike Uncanny Inhumans. I just feel like it's a book that could be way better but is held back by its lack of flow. Individual arcs are great, but every time I feel like I'm finally really into the series it suddenly shifts gears radically. All New I indeed stopped reading a few issues ago but I did indeed read it before I started criticizing the current Inhuman series.
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