The All New All Different Last Minute June Chat Thread

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Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

Never trust a goon.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 08:08

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# ? May 13, 2024 10:52

WickedHate: Aug 1, 2013; by Lowtax

hup posted:

Season five really gets back on the ball with the second episode; the only real clunker in six was the one where the Dean gets the 90s VR computer.

JESUS WEPT! because of this lovely opinion.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 11:29

BravestOfTheLamps: Oct 12, 2012; by FactsAreUseless; Lipstick Apathy

Donald Glover's character really was kind of bad. Now his performance was obviously great, but the character itself was weak and inconsistent. He'd switch from dumb jock to nerd to put-upon kid to sheltered dork to a young man coming to age. The uniting joke was... that he was dumb and naive I guess? That the character was mostly improvised makes sense.

But this wasn't really a problem because it was Donald Glover.

BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Jun 28, 2016

# ? Jun 28, 2016 12:34

Unbelievably Fat Man: Jun 1, 2000; Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.

Is this some kind of fumetti comic? I don't understand.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 14:06

Timeless Appeal: May 28, 2006

WickedHate posted:

Derrick Comedy in general is great, including their movie, Mystery Team. It's a shame they don't do stuff anymore because their sketches are all really top notch.

I dunno. A lot of it hasn't aged well, or at least doesn't hold up as you get older.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 16:32

WickedHate: Aug 1, 2013; by Lowtax

Timeless Appeal posted:

I dunno. A lot of it hasn't aged well, or at least doesn't hold up as you get older.

Granted, but Gink is even more relevant today.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 16:38

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Donald Glover's character really was kind of bad. Now his performance was obviously great, but the character itself was weak and inconsistent. He'd switch from dumb jock to nerd to put-upon kid to sheltered dork to a young man coming to age. The uniting joke was... that he was dumb and naive I guess? That the character was mostly improvised makes sense.

But this wasn't really a problem because it was Donald Glover.

I was more surprised by the "Allison Brie is obnoxious" thing, because anyone who doesn't think she's a complete delight is clearly insane.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 16:39

Madkal: Feb 11, 2008; Fallen Rib

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Donald Glover's character really was kind of bad. Now his performance was obviously great, but the character itself was weak and inconsistent. He'd switch from dumb jock to nerd to put-upon kid to sheltered dork to a young man coming to age. The uniting joke was... that he was dumb and naive I guess? That the character was mostly improvised makes sense.

But this wasn't really a problem because it was Donald Glover.

Pretty much non of the characters were the same as they were introduced in the first few episodes of season 1. This isn't really character growth (Jeff was probably the only character that had any growth as a character) but more of strange evolving and trying to figure out what the show actually was.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 19:49

Wheat Loaf: Feb 13, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

Here's a general opinion question I'm curious about: Brian Bendis or Geoff Johns?

# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:43

X-O: Apr 28, 2002; Long Live The King!

Bendis, for sure.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:44

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

I'll take Bendis' best work over Johns', but I'd probably rather read Johns' worst work than Bendis'

# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:44

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Bendis, unless it's an event book.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:46

WickedHate: Aug 1, 2013; by Lowtax

I'd take a bullet through my ears, thanks.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:46

Timeless Appeal: May 28, 2006

On one hand, Ultimate Spider-Man is more fun than Johns' Flash.

On the other hand, I don't think Johns has ever given me the creeps the way Bendis sometimes can.

So probably Bendis.

CapnAndy posted:

Bendis, unless it's an event book.

Bendis's event books are bland, they're not unreadable like Infinite Crisis.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:48

purple death ray: Jul 28, 2007; me omw 2 steal ur girl

Absolutely bendis, not even a question. I don't really know why so much of BSS doesn't like him.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:50

X-O: Apr 28, 2002; Long Live The King!

Johns has Flash, and stuff I like but always forget about like his work on Teen Titans or JSA or even some of his Superman Pre-Flashpoint. But Bendis has Ultimate Spider-Man, Daredevil, and Alias and just those three make it a knockout.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:53

WickedHate: Aug 1, 2013; by Lowtax

Timeless Appeal posted:

Bendis's event books are bland, they're not unreadable like Infinite Crisis.

Age of Ultron disagrees. Besides, bland is the worst kind of bad. At least truly terrible failures are entertaining on that merit.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:53

Timeless Appeal: May 28, 2006

You know that sounds like a good ethos and everything, but who the gently caress wants to read House of M over Infinite Crisis. I'd rather do taxes than read Infinite Crisis.

Travis343 posted:

Absolutely bendis, not even a question. I don't really know why so much of BSS doesn't like him.

Honestly, it was out of liking him that I grew a distaste. I was super into his Avengers books, but he never really stuck the landing and things never really paid off the way you hoped.

Also, that one Hood story where bad guys are watching a video of a naked Tigra getting the poo poo beaten out of each other and Bucky is asked to kiss a villain's gun. When people were skeeved out about heroines too often being naked in his books, I wrote it off, but that's when I started getting creeped out by the guy.

But in the end, I think he definitely had an infinitely more net positive impact on the Marvel Universe than Johns.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:55

burnishedfume: Mar 8, 2011; You really are a louse...

Wheat Loaf posted:

Here's a general opinion question I'm curious about : Brian Bendis or Geoff Johns?

I'm all for the Bendiman. I can complain endlessly about him but overall I do like him as a writer. He just has some glaring flaws that are fun to laugh at.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:59

Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; Can't post for 3 days!

Johns all the way except when he eventually goes "Murder! Blood! Shock!" He can write event books, is good at giving characters their own voice, amazing at revitalizing or expanding comic legacy or lore, and appreciates most b through z list characters.

Bendis event books are garbage, his dialogue is too wordy and seems to spin wheels, and a lot of his characters read the same to me.

Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jun 28, 2016

# ? Jun 28, 2016 22:08

Timeless Appeal: May 28, 2006

I also don't think we really get Fraction's Marvel stuff without Bendis either.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 22:12

WickedHate: Aug 1, 2013; by Lowtax

Timeless Appeal posted:

I also don't think we really get Fraction's Marvel stuff without Bendis either.

So, no loss?

# ? Jun 28, 2016 22:12

bobkatt013: Oct 8, 2006; Youâre telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

^^ besides some of the best comics of the last 10 years

Timeless Appeal posted:

I also don't think we really get Fraction's Marvel stuff without Bendis either.

No that would be Hickman, as he started as the co-writer of Secret Warriors. Fraction was with Brubaker.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 22:15

redbackground: Sep 24, 2007; BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!; Grimey Drawer

WickedHate posted:

So, no loss?

It'll be nice when you're banned again in like a week.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 22:17

X-O: Apr 28, 2002; Long Live The King!

bobkatt013 posted:

^^ besides some of the best comics of the last 10 years

Such as the first 15 issues of Hawkeye, Immortal Iron Fist, and...? Defenders maybe? That's really about it.

redbackground posted:

It'll be nice when you're banned again in like a week.

Yes, it will be.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 22:19

WickedHate: Aug 1, 2013; by Lowtax

redbackground posted:

It'll be nice when you're banned again in like a week.

I can't decide between :rolleyes:

take your pick.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 22:19

Timeless Appeal: May 28, 2006

bobkatt013 posted:

No that would be Hickman, as he started as the co-writer of Secret Warriors. Fraction was with Brubaker.

I know that's who brought him in; I'm just not sure that Immortal Iron Fist happens without Bendis's Daredevil and revitalization of Cage. Like, I know it doesn't require those components to exist from a story perspective, but I think that stuff created an environment for something like Iron Fist to happen.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 22:33

Madkal: Feb 11, 2008; Fallen Rib

Bendis writes some great comics but I think he likes the slow burn/decompressed stuff a tad too much so quite a few of his comics feel like they are spinning their wheels over multiple issues.
One thing that you can say for Bendis and Johns is that when they are writing characters they love (Spiderman and Superman) they absolutely nail the characterization like no other.

# ? Jun 28, 2016 22:42

Squizzle: Apr 24, 2008

I'll go for BMB every time. Bendis is a good writer whose stylistic quirks don't fit well with big pop superhero genre work. Johns is a mediocre writer^* who knows superhero genre stuff inside-out.

_{^* Even a bad writer can turn in some good or at times excellent work. Johns has done some swell things, but his body of work as a whole is, in terms of craft, a moist fart into a paper bag.}

# ? Jun 28, 2016 23:04