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ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
I remember playing Everquest back in the late 90s and getting lost in a kobold dungeon and losing my corpse so gently caress kobolds.

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Woffle
Jul 23, 2007

chaos rhames posted:

Gary and Kole I'm taking serious umbrage to your claim that kobolds being dragon-related is bad. It gives a big plot hook for early stuff, doesn't actually interfere with level 1 play and gives you a way to justify using them lategame. The dragon hook makes them way better than other goblin-knockoffs.


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Sometimes the strongest friend...... is the lowest level...... Koboldboy99


It just bums me out that it came out of nowhere. I'm usually the first person to condemn goblin variants but I like dragons much more as longer manipulators than surrounded by a coterie of puppers.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
They're just the cousins nobody at the dragon family reunion wants to talk about

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

chaos rhames posted:

Gary and Kole I'm taking serious umbrage to your claim that kobolds being dragon-related is bad. It gives a big plot hook for early stuff, doesn't actually interfere with level 1 play and gives you a way to justify using them lategame. The dragon hook makes them way better than other goblin-knockoffs.


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Sometimes the strongest friend...... is the lowest level...... Koboldboy99


I like that as a result of the dog-men/dragon-men split, Western Fantasy Kobolds and Eastern Fantasy Kobolds have had a divergent evolution.




Also two things from the Day of the Tentacle episode: Weird Ed is totally doing a Boris Karloff voice and it has been a really long time since I've read anything by Dave Barry, but I don't remember him relying nearly as much on literalized puns as was implied, but it''s possible I'm just misremembering.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

chaos rhames posted:

Sometimes the strongest friend...... is the lowest level...... Koboldboy99


Deekin Scalesinger 4 lyfe

He was the only NPC who had your back through the entirety of Hordes of the Underdark.

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Jul 3, 2016

Pasco
Oct 2, 2010

Tir McDohl posted:

The only time kobolds were ever good is Suikoden and that's because they were cute dogs who were your friends

You better not be talkin' mess about my homeboy Deekin.

Mierenneuker posted:

Deekin Scalesinger 4 lyfe

He was the only NPC who had your back through the entirety of Hordes of the Underdark.

Hell yes, at least some people know what's up.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
Not to bring the mood down but today is the third year we've gone since Ryan Davis died. I hope he's CHINA DON'T CAREing it up in cyber heaven right now.

Corin Tucker's Stalker
May 27, 2001


One bullet. One gun. Six Chambers. These are my friends.
When you revisit Giant Bomb content with Ryan it's immediately obvious how unique he was. He was funny, but he also gave every single video a sense of direction. He kept poo poo moving, prompted funny exchanges, and ribbed his co-hosts in a way that was dickish but good-natured so they played along and stayed on their toes.

Seemed like a good guy, on top of all that.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Or if he didn't like something he was absolutely unrepentant to it.

bobservo
Jul 24, 2003

We done did an EarthBound episode of Retronauts for your 4th of July listening pleasure:

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/retronauts-joins-the-cult-of-earthbound

zapjackson
May 21, 2012

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

I remember playing Everquest back in the late 90s and getting lost in a kobold dungeon and losing my corpse so gently caress kobolds.

This is exactly how I feel about gnolls and exactly why.

ja2ke
Feb 19, 2004

Invictus thanks again for that final Hat Baron email we read this week. It ended up being ridiculously timely given all the insane CS Economy stuff coming out right now.

I can barely believe the degree of hosed updedness with all that gun gambling casino/streamer stuff.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

ja2ke posted:

Invictus thanks again for that final Hat Baron email we read this week. It ended up being ridiculously timely given all the insane CS Economy stuff coming out right now.

I can barely believe the degree of hosed updedness with all that gun gambling casino/streamer stuff.
Yeah, a friend just linked me this PC Gamer article on the situation and it's goddamn hilarious

Dude is completely, utterly hosed, and it's all by his own doing

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

bobservo posted:

We done did an EarthBound episode of Retronauts for your 4th of July listening pleasure:

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/retronauts-joins-the-cult-of-earthbound

Holy smokes, GARFEP! Nice! I just had to pack away my small Earthbound shrine since I'm moving:



Captain Invictus posted:

Yeah, a friend just linked me this PC Gamer article on the situation and it's goddamn hilarious

Dude is completely, utterly hosed, and it's all by his own doing

I thought it was just a continuation of the CS:GO betting on pro games scene, but nope! This was a pretty good breakdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8fU2QG-lV0

I'm really interested to see how this is going to shake out. It seems like a slam dunk from half-court type of deal. I have a strong feeling that the prosecution will be subpoenaing Youtube for his video where he's like "yeah, so like the news is totallllllly overblowing what this is really about" when he's pacing around his house.

Phone fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jul 5, 2016

ColonelJohnMatrix
Jun 24, 2006

Because all fucking hell is going to break loose

Great show Bob. Was looking forward to when you all would get around to covering Earthbound. I'm one of those "new listeners" that started listening since you guys restarted independently so all of these subjects are new to me.

Now for a confession- I have trouble playing Earthbound. I have it on both WiiU (before selling the system last month) and N3DS and while I love the setting, dialogue, characters, music, basically everything.....I just can't get much into the "game" aspect. Perhaps it's because I'm just not a traditional RPG player, but it's tough for whatever reason. Anyways, I'm at Threed thus far and for posterity will continue to soldier on every now and then. It's the weirdest thing to love everything about a game and at the same time find it a bit of a slog.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
The difficulty curve on the game is all over the map, mostly by design, though. If you're not playing with the PDF of the guide that was packed in with the game, you should track that down. Especially for a "puzzle" coming up in the next point of interest.

Chilled Milk
Jun 22, 2003

No one here is alone,
satellites in every home

ColonelJohnMatrix posted:

Great show Bob. Was looking forward to when you all would get around to covering Earthbound. I'm one of those "new listeners" that started listening since you guys restarted independently so all of these subjects are new to me.

Now for a confession- I have trouble playing Earthbound. I have it on both WiiU (before selling the system last month) and N3DS and while I love the setting, dialogue, characters, music, basically everything.....I just can't get much into the "game" aspect. Perhaps it's because I'm just not a traditional RPG player, but it's tough for whatever reason. Anyways, I'm at Threed thus far and for posterity will continue to soldier on every now and then. It's the weirdest thing to love everything about a game and at the same time find it a bit of a slog.

If you've made it to Threed, you've made it past one of the toughest parts of the game. Definitely track down the guide and check out the Earthbound thread in Games.

ColonelJohnMatrix
Jun 24, 2006

Because all fucking hell is going to break loose

The Milkman posted:

If you've made it to Threed, you've made it past one of the toughest parts of the game. Definitely track down the guide and check out the Earthbound thread in Games.

Yeah, I've been trying to use the guide as sparingly as i can but some of the stuff is obtuse enough that I've had to use it regularly. I play in little spurts every couple of weeks as well so I forget what I'm doing!

Chilled Milk
Jun 22, 2003

No one here is alone,
satellites in every home

ColonelJohnMatrix posted:

Yeah, I've been trying to use the guide as sparingly as i can but some of the stuff is obtuse enough that I've had to use it regularly. I play in little spurts every couple of weeks as well so I forget what I'm doing!

I (and many folks) consider the official guide a proper companion piece to the game, it came with it after all. It adds so much flavor text (and cool artwork) above what you get in the game. It's more than okay to read it over while playing, especially if it's your first play though and even more especially if you're not into the genre. What it adds more than makes up for any sort of fumbling around exploration it saves you from doing.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Also, here's a super good mashup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkSBo6fbXw4

bobservo
Jul 24, 2003

Phone posted:

The difficulty curve on the game is all over the map, mostly by design, though. If you're not playing with the PDF of the guide that was packed in with the game, you should track that down. Especially for a "puzzle" coming up in the next point of interest.

I think the biggest difficulty spike comes when you hit the Peaceful Rest Valley, since you're dealing with more difficult enemies who can inflict status effects, and you only have Ness with a limited inventory and no status-healing magic. I think there are a few minor spikes after that (like when you revisit the alien-infested Onett) but as with any RPG you can always level-grind your way to success.

Also, Jeff's Multi-Bottle Rockets are pretty much the easiest way to kill any boss in a few turns. They're so overpowered I never use them for the sake of making boss fights way more interesting.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Definitely, and it plays into the thematic message of "everything is easier with friends!"

When you lose Paula in the department store, it's a adjacent difficulty move (not a spike) because most of your battle verbs are now gone, but it's not particularly bad; you'd just much rather have Paula in your party. I'd consider Magicant to be the second biggest spike because some of those battles can be real touch-and-go, but yeah, the difficulty curve going into Peaceful Rest Valley looks like a skateboard quarter pipe.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
I'm slowly working through the WoFF on the Fallout New Vegas DLC as I play through it. I've beaten and listened to the sections on Honest Hearts and Dead Money and I just wanted to make a few comments:

Kole, if you haven't done so already I'd suggest going to a wikia and reading the notes on The Father and The Sorrows because they're some of the most affecting backstory in FO3, FO4, and FONV. The one log about the Vault 22 refugees and the captured people followed by "They ate them." is chilling. And a minor correction, the people The Father watches over aren't the scouts from the bus crash, they're a group that escaped from some place called The School which is controlled by someone called The Principal and their ancestors become the Sorrows, named because The Father came down from the caves as he reached the end of his life and told them to stay innocent and be kind to each other to forget "the sorrows of the past." It's great and I love it and things like this are what drive me to spend a hundred hours exploring and learning about this world.

Old World Blues is up next, I can't wait to get started.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Probably everybody who cares already knows, but we're in the middle of Summer Games Done Quick. Which means The Yetee has event tees for games like Castlevania, FF6, and SMRPG.

Figured it might be germane to some WOFF and Retronauts fans who only follow this thread.

Chilled Milk
Jun 22, 2003

No one here is alone,
satellites in every home

Zombies' Downfall posted:

Probably everybody who cares already knows, but we're in the middle of Summer Games Done Quick. Which means The Yetee has event tees for games like Castlevania, FF6, and SMRPG.

Figured it might be germane to some WOFF and Retronauts fans who only follow this thread.

Don't forget Pepsiman.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
The event tees this year aren't very good barring TASBOT, if you want a good event tee from SGDQ you should grab the Metroidvania one from a couple events ago. I am actually wearing one RIGHT NOW!!! and it rules

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Take it back. I bought the Mario Kart one because it's a really good design and I race cars. Definitely gonna wear it around the paddock. :colbert:

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

The Milkman posted:

Don't forget Pepsiman.

i wish i could

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Brother Entropy posted:

i wish i could
You take that back immediately you animal.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
Has anyone done a WOFF-style deep-dive of Inside? Amazing game, but gaming podcasts seem like they never cover games substantively like I want them to because they are all "first impression" with no spoilers.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

So It Goes posted:

Has anyone done a WOFF-style deep-dive of Inside? Amazing game, but gaming podcasts seem like they never cover games substantively like I want them to because they are all "first impression" with no spoilers.

No because it's been five loving minutes

VocalizePlayerDeath
Jan 29, 2009

The Vosgian Beast posted:

No because it's been five loving minutes

No com lp is only 40 mins.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

VocalizePlayerDeath posted:

No com lp is only 40 mins.

Use your words

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

VocalizePlayerDeath posted:

No com lp is only 40 mins.
Don't sign your posts?

Woffle
Jul 23, 2007

So It Goes posted:

Has anyone done a WOFF-style deep-dive of Inside? Amazing game, but gaming podcasts seem like they never cover games substantively like I want them to because they are all "first impression" with no spoilers.

We're going to do it on Check it Out Comrade, i think, possibly in 2 weeks. We want to move it up the schedule because it looks rad as poo poo.

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"

So It Goes posted:

Has anyone done a WOFF-style deep-dive of Inside? Amazing game, but gaming podcasts seem like they never cover games substantively like I want them to because they are all "first impression" with no spoilers.

Not sure if it's exactly what you're after, but the last half-hour of the latest Computer Game Show is an Inside spoilercast.

tag youre fat
Aug 16, 2013

C'est l'homme ideal
charme au masculin

bobservo posted:

We done did an EarthBound episode of Retronauts for your 4th of July listening pleasure:

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/retronauts-joins-the-cult-of-earthbound

I like to imagine Michael Grimm doesn't need to be invited on the show, just mentioning Earthbound summons him. Great episode!

Aardark
Aug 5, 2004

by Lowtax

bobservo posted:

We done did an EarthBound episode of Retronauts for your 4th of July listening pleasure:

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/retronauts-joins-the-cult-of-earthbound
Hey nice episode. Also, I want a Retronauts or WOFF episode on Mother 3, please. I actually played and finished the fan translation, and it was shockingly good (both the translation and the game).

P.S. Persona 3 and 4 also have enemies run away if your level is high enough

Aardark fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Jul 12, 2016

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


I'm surprised Idle Thumbs didn't bring up Steam gift cards as a way for kids to spend money in Steam without parental oversight. It was what my mind immediately went to.

What a bunch of silly geese.

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ja2ke
Feb 19, 2004

Sankis posted:

I'm surprised Idle Thumbs didn't bring up Steam gift cards as a way for kids to spend money in Steam without parental oversight. It was what my mind immediately went to.

What a bunch of silly geese.

Ah I didnt even think about being able to buy a Steam Gift Card at a GameStop or whatever.

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