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I mean to say, what would the effects be on the plot of the Harry Potter series? He might be friends with Ron but wouldn't be friends with Hermione for instance who probably would've died or been seriously injured by that troll. He probably would've lashed out at Snape eventually. Assuming he still somehow gets a hold of Dobby he would've had a personal slave. Without his friends he probably would've been uninvolved in the big mystery plots. Whatever, it was a stupid question without an answer.
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MrSlam posted:I mean to say, what would the effects be on the plot of the Harry Potter series? He might be friends with Ron but wouldn't be friends with Hermione for instance who probably would've died or been seriously injured by that troll. He probably would've lashed out at Snape eventually. Assuming he still somehow gets a hold of Dobby he would've had a personal slave. Without his friends he probably would've been uninvolved in the big mystery plots. Whatever, it was a stupid question without an answer. I guarantee you that somewhere out there on the internet, someone has not just thought about this, they've written (likely unfinished) fanfic about it. Possibly with a romantic subplot included to boot!
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Jun 15, 2016 11:18
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it's Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality
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Jun 15, 2016 14:20
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:it's Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality Is that the fanfic where Harry rapes Hermione because it's the 'logical' thing to do?
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StrixNebulosa posted:I guarantee you that somewhere out there on the internet, someone has not just thought about this, they've written (likely unfinished) fanfic about it. Possibly with a romantic subplot included to boot! I read the last part of your post as "including a boot" and it made me laugh.
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Jun 17, 2016 03:37
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I can't believe that the original dutch ending to HEX isn't anywhere to be found on the internet. Like, not even a spoiler synopsis.
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Jun 20, 2016 03:43
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At what point did writers move past epistolary novels? When was it enough to just be in the story, instead of giving it a framing device, like Don Quixote's translation, Tristam Shandy's journals, Frankenstein's letters, etc.? Also, when did the concept of unreliable narrator emerge or become a standard concept/interpretation? Was it a conscious effort of an author, or a response by critics/academics?
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Jun 20, 2016 20:47
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The loss of a framing device for the novel came primarily with the normalization of the novel as a genre. Once the novel as a narrative was established, there was less need to put it into a context the reader of the era understood. As for unreliable narrators, pretty sure they predate the novel itself by a good bit.
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Jun 20, 2016 22:00
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Yeah, look at the Bible
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Jun 20, 2016 23:39
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blue squares posted:Yeah, look at the Bible Or "Homer".
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blue squares posted:Yeah, look at the Bible 
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Jun 21, 2016 12:14
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You could actually make the argument of unreliable narrators for the Gospels though
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Mel Mudkiper posted:You could actually make the argument of unreliable narrators for the Gospels though Especially the book(s) of "John"
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Jun 21, 2016 15:07
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I was just being ~~~ edgy~~~
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blue squares posted:I was just being ~~~ edgy~~~ Yeah I know, we were no-selling it by engaging with it honestly
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Jun 21, 2016 17:13
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What was that book everyone was talking up as being Gaddisean? Modernish novel, blue squares broke my heart when he dropped Recognitions in favour of it, ringing any bells?
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Mr. Squishy posted:What was that book everyone was talking up as being Gaddisean? Modernish novel, blue squares broke my heart when he dropped Recognitions in favour of it, ringing any bells? Naked Singularity by Sergio de la Pava
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That's the chap, thanks.
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i'm a book: the good book
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The Disaster Artist is one of the funniest books I've ever read. I was laughing so hard that my left eye starting hurting for some reason
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blue squares posted:The Disaster Artist is one of the funniest books I've ever read. I was laughing so hard that my left eye starting hurting for some reason I'm about a third of the way through the audiobook version and it's hysterical. Does anyone have the link to the Disaster Artist thread? I can't find it.
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My local comic book/boardgame/Warhams/Blu-Ray/general nerd poo poo store is having a summer sale and I just bought The Axeman's Jazz by Ray Celestin, The Unquiet House by Alison Littlewood, Stray Bullets by David Lapham, Embassytown by China Mieville and the Gormenghast novels all at about 35 bucks. All mostly blind buys. I've heard about the true story behind the Axeman's Jazz and I've read other books by China but the rest I only bought cause they were cheap and sounded interesting. Are any of them poo poo by any chance? I'm considering starting with Stray Bullets because a a comic I should be able to read it very quickly and probably only reading the Gormenghast stuff one book at a time because that books is a motherfucking tome.
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Embassytown is a dense read but really interesting, especially if you like exploring linguistics and meaning in language.
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FreudianSlippers posted:probably only reading the Gormenghast stuff one book at a time because that books is a motherfucking tome. As opposed to reading them simultaneously? 
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Embassytown is loving incredible, so are the first two Gormenghast books. Titus Alone was pieced together after Peake turned into niggerstomper58 and it uh shows
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Hedrigall posted:As opposed to reading them simultaneously? As opposed to reading it all in one go like one after the other.
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:I can't believe that the original dutch ending to HEX isn't anywhere to be found on the internet. Like, not even a spoiler synopsis. this is an ongoing source of bafflement and irritation for me. I really enjoyed that book up until what's his face, the kid dies, at which point I thought the pacing and plotting went to hell. I'm really curious as to what point the books diverge and how the original ends, but I can't find anything
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I find Gormenghast to be unbearable. I like an occasional Gormenghastly turn of phrase, but an entire book of it is just too loving much for me.
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End Of Worlds posted:this is an ongoing source of bafflement and irritation for me. I really enjoyed that book up until what's his face, the kid dies, at which point I thought the pacing and plotting went to hell. I'm really curious as to what point the books diverge and how the original ends, but I can't find anything I'm starting to wonder whether there even was a Dutch version or even if Dutch people still exist. Can anyone confirm?
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Any recommended software for putting in ISBN #s and then outputting to a spreadsheet? Friend sells books on Amazon for a charity and is streamlining their process.
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Khizan posted:I find Gormenghast to be unbearable. I like an occasional Gormenghastly turn of phrase, but an entire book of it is just too loving much for me. Sounds like you need to step it up
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:I'm starting to wonder whether there even was a Dutch version or even if Dutch people still exist. Can anyone confirm? The Netherlands have never actually existed. It's all just Germany and the alleged Dutch mere Swamp-Germans. The idea of there being such a thing as the Netherlands is just a publicity stunt for wooden shoes.
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FreudianSlippers posted:The Netherlands have never actually existed. It's all just Germany and the alleged Dutch mere Swamp-Germans. The idea of there being such a thing as the Netherlands is just a publicity stunt for wooden shoes. Wait til I tell my John Birch Society brothers about this.
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I've been thinking about doing a Let's Read of the Ring trilogy: Ring, Spiral and Loop, although, one thread at a time of course. How do you recommend choosing what to quote and discuss and what to trim? Also, how much of each chapter should I do at once, I'm thinking to try finding good stopping points for each chapter to keep each part within one post, and then having a constantly updated "contents" post linking to each part of each chapter. is that the accepted way of doing things? Just trying to get some advice before making a bad start and getting dogpiled :P
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BioEnchanted posted:I've been thinking about doing a Let's Read of the Ring trilogy: Ring, Spiral and Loop, although, one thread at a time of course. How do you recommend choosing what to quote and discuss and what to trim? Also, how much of each chapter should I do at once, I'm thinking to try finding good stopping points for each chapter to keep each part within one post, and then having a constantly updated "contents" post linking to each part of each chapter. is that the accepted way of doing things? Just trying to get some advice before making a bad start and getting dogpiled :P Let's reads are bad and the best way to do them is not to. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I've looked around at other let's reads, and seen a very very large variance, so I figured I'd try my own thing and go paragraph by paragraph, analysing the story as it is revealed to the reader, picking out imagery and other such tools. I realise that will take some time. Here's a example of what I'm thinking, it would be nice to get feedback: ----------------------------- Chapter 1: quote:September 5th, 1990, 10:49pm, Yokohama quote:Off to the south the oily surface of the ocean reflected the glittering lights of a factory. A maze of pipes and conduits crawled along the factory walls like blood vessels on muscle tissue. Countless lights played over the front wall of the factory like insects that glow in the dark; even this grotesque scene had a certain type of beauty. The factory cast a wordless shadow on the black sea beyond. ----------------------- Am I being too academic or could this work?
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I am not sure how long these books/chapters are or how much you are planning on cutting out/summarising, but I would consider including more than a sentence or two at a time, unless a particular sentence is really noteworthy and deserves in-depth explanation on its own. It's a bit hard to go from reading a sentence of the book to reading a sentence of analysis to reading a sentence of a book to reading analysis, etc. It's hard to get into a flow of either, though maybe that is an inherent feature of let's play type things. I have never done any kind of let's read, so take this as random advice from someone who knows nothing about the subject. It sounds interesting though and not too academic. I might check it out whenever you do it as I'm generally too much of a baby to ever read horror.
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THanks for the advice. I'll make it a page per quote then, that should help the flow. The text just appears way shorter in the forum post than it does in the book, so I overestimated how much text was there. Clarification: Those two quotes are half a page by themselves. Each quote therefore would be 4 times the length. That sound good? BioEnchanted fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Jul 9, 2016 |
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Yeah I was thinking that maybe if you had combined the two quotes you posted into one, it would be a good length to get a feel for the style and narrative flow, then to be followed by your analysis and comments. However, that's just my random internet opinion. Horror stories often try to evoke a certain kind of atmosphere/tension, which I think might be a bit lost if it's broken up too much. I haven't read the books though so don't know how true that would be here. You can experiment and do shorter quotes for bits that aren't very tense/atmospheric maybe and do longer passages where that is important.
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THanks for the help. I'll continue writing up the draft, then post the thread at some point tomorrow.
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