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Meant to post this here but accidentally posted it in the best thread instead:Jewel Repetition posted:Post YFW you slowly realize Trump's performance means any other Republican nominee probably would have beaten Hillary
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JT Jag posted:Pets are an affectation of the bourgeoisie, the only true companion for a revolutionary is a pot-belly pig, an animal you can love and one you can depend on to nourish you when the revolution comes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrJlwBkFAHw
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Dogs are better, but if you work long hours and live alone, cats are better because they thrive on neglect
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Jul 20, 2016 07:49
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my cat allergies have deprived me of being a cat guy
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Jul 20, 2016 07:50
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Jewel Repetition posted:Meant to post this here but accidentally posted it in the best thread instead: I think Clinton could still beat Carson's scampaign, but other than that you're right
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Jul 20, 2016 08:01
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i'm convinced that clinton would have beaten cruz and jeb!, while losing to kaisch
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Jul 20, 2016 08:20
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Fulchrum posted:Legitimately, adverb. Meaning: she is bad and I hate her. 😂😂 paranoid randroid posted:you literally told me once you dont give a poo poo about others points of view At this point I no longer expect rudatron to have a cohesive point of view. Instead, I have learned to expect a poo poo show of disparate and ill-conceived ideas that are supported by nothing but vague conjecture and shadowy prejudices. 
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Jul 20, 2016 08:45
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It would have been tighter, but yeah. Cruz and JEB are both quite beatable. Kasich...would have been a squeaker. Most of his good polling is largely due to nobody knowing who the hell he is; you can stay a "generic republican" cipher for a while, but Hillary's job #1 would be defining him if he was the nominee. He'd have to follow suit and define himself on his own terms. And he's got a sufficiently high rear end in a top hat-quotient to lose a lot of ground. So doable, but tougher. But instead, we get The Golden One, the MAGA of disastah, the orange beast with mouths for eyes, Trump! *click* This is going to be a magical set of debates--and overall campaign. September can't get here soon enough.
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Jul 20, 2016 08:49
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Honestly, I feel Mitt Romney may have given Clinton a run for her money, but the person to look for in 2020 is Rubio imo. Better hope people start liking Clinton once in office, because if they don't, he'll win, assuming he survives the Night Of Trump Steak Knives. But the state of the election now is basically Clinton's to lose, thanks to Trump.
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rudatron posted:Honestly, I feel Mitt Romney may have given Clinton a run for her money, but the person to look for in 2020 is Rubio imo. Better hope people start liking Clinton once in office, because if they don't, he'll win, assuming he survives the Night Of Trump Steak Knives. But the state of the election now is basically Clinton's to lose, thanks to Trump. too many skeletons. he's changed his religion too much and the whole isn't a hard worker thing was aired out nationally so now he's in danger of losing his senate seat. 2018 he may be in a way better position but there will be no way to tell any sooner
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Jul 20, 2016 12:08
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rudatron posted:Honestly, I feel Mitt Romney may have given Clinton a run for her money, but the person to look for in 2020 is Rubio imo. Better hope people start liking Clinton once in office, because if they don't, he'll win, assuming he survives the Night Of Trump Steak Knives. But the state of the election now is basically Clinton's to lose, thanks to Trump. lol he's lucky if he even gets his senate seat back. he is hated here in FL and his flip flop on running for senate is gonna ruin him
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Jul 20, 2016 12:15
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Honestly, I think Paul Ryan is a lock for 2020 unless there is another Trump-esque mutiny. And I think he'd have good chances of winning even if Hilary is doing favorably as President. But it doesn't matter because this isn't about the Presidency. It's about the Supreme Court.
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Jul 20, 2016 12:48
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Timeless Appeal posted:Honestly, I think Paul Ryan is a lock for 2020 unless there is another Trump-esque mutiny. And I think he'd have good chances of winning even if Hilary is doing favorably as President. Ryan is clearly aiming for a 2020 run, but I wouldn't count Kaisch entirely out. I suspect that part of his distancing from Trump and refusal to bend knee all the way is to better position himself as the dissenting voice of wisdom among the failed candidates* this time around, who can point at the smoldering crater Trump leaves of the party and say "warned you, didn't I?" *Ignoring as always Jeb! because Jeb's a mess.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Ryan is clearly aiming for a 2020 run, but I wouldn't count Kaisch entirely out. I suspect that part of his distancing from Trump and refusal to bend knee all the way is to better position himself as the dissenting voice of wisdom among the failed candidates* this time around, who can point at the smoldering crater Trump leaves of the party and say "warned you, didn't I?"
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Timeless Appeal posted:Honestly, I think Paul Ryan is a lock for 2020 unless there is another Trump-esque mutiny. And I think he'd have good chances of winning even if Hilary is doing favorably as President. Ryan has no hope at the presidency. No one outside of GOP officials seems to care for his policy-wonk approach, and there is too much Ryan-Trump ammo to be used against him. If Hillary wins, the GOP challenger in 2020 will have to be someone who didn't embrace Trump quite so much. Kasich will be the front runner, but I can see Rubio, and Nikki Hayley in the mix.
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Jul 20, 2016 14:17
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Badger of Basra posted:It kind of sucks that Hillary has such massive unfavorables when all she's done to deserve it is be married to the first democratic president that Republicans went fully insane on It's a modern political koan. L-Boned posted:Hillary is a tough sell for progressives. The same way Trump is for far right. If that's your bar, who in the gently caress has a good record? And don't you loving dare say someone who said he supported them but didn't achieve anything. Real service, not lip service. OAquinas posted:It would have been tighter, but yeah. Cruz and JEB are both quite beatable. Hell, if it was between Bernie and Trump, the media would be painting both sides as wackos with crazy ideas, and the polls would follow suit. She'd be no better or no worse against any other Republican til after the convention.
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rudatron posted:Honestly, I feel Mitt Romney may have given Clinton a run for her money, but the person to look for in 2020 is Rubio imo. Better hope people start liking Clinton once in office, because if they don't, he'll win, assuming he survives the Night Of Trump Steak Knives. But the state of the election now is basically Clinton's to lose, thanks to Trump. Rubio and Paul Ryan are the ones I'm worried about. They both can put on the 'aw golly shucks' routine like pros which is really effective on swing voters. Aw gosh guys I just wanna make things better and cooperate you guys want that, don't you 
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Necc0 posted:Rubio and Paul Ryan are the ones I'm worried about. They both can put on the 'aw golly shucks' routine like pros which is really effective on swing voters. Ryan got eaten alive by Joe Biden of all people. What do you think Hillary would do to him in a debate?
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But according to the Kasich adviser (who spoke only under the condition that he not be named), Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history? When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr. explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy. Then what, the adviser asked, would Trump be in charge of? “Making America great again” was the casual reply.
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Fulchrum posted:Did the Republicans lose their poo poo at the thought of Bill, and Hillary was just in the crossfire? Or did they lose their poo poo at Hillary, and Bill was in the crossfire? It's both. The pair of them completely flipped the poo poo of conservatives. They hated Hillary first because she was a liberal, ambitious, opinionated woman who clearly had the chops for national politics. Then Bill had the audacity to unseat an incumbent Republican after they had won 5 of six elections mostly by blowouts. In 1992, the Republicans seriously believed they had a lock on the presidency forever and Clinton winning completely blew their minds. Rush Limbaugh began his shows with "America Held Hostage, Day X" after the election, and went from sarcastic and reasonably funny to completely nasty and mean. Erasing Bill Clinton from history and ensuring Hillary never became president became their sole obsession. The 90s were quite unpleasant, even worse than the Obama years. Hillary becoming president will do more to destroy the Republican party than Obama did. She is the embodiment of everything they hate and fear. Why they've gone so far off the deep end with her I don't really understand, but they sure did.
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Deteriorata posted:It's both. The pair of them completely flipped the poo poo of conservatives. They hated Hillary first because she was a liberal, ambitious, opinionated woman who clearly had the chops for national politics. Then Bill had the audacity to unseat an incumbent Republican after they had won 5 of six elections mostly by blowouts. You can say that this existed with Bush. But the 2000 election was more or less against the spirit of the electoral college (Gore didn't lose out of any sense that he wasn't fit to be President but because of a fluke with the math) and David Siegel claiming he did illegal things to secure the Florida election for Bush. And while tons of people didn't recognize Bush as a legitimate President, you didn't see much of that rhetoric come much from Kerry and Obama shied away from any calls to explore wrongdoing of the Bush administration. In the end, Bush's legitimacy as President isn't really in question and Dems have more or less decided to settle for the argument the disgusting lie that Reagan is on the level of Lincoln. Meanwhile, there are probably already meetings to try to figure out how to impeach Hilary. EDIT: Despite everything we've seen, Hilary's argument is that Donald Trump should not become President. Christie's argument is that Hilary should be in prison. Timeless Appeal has issued a correction as of 16:16 on Jul 20, 2016 |
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Phi230 posted:lol he's lucky if he even gets his senate seat back. he is hated here in FL and his flip flop on running for senate is gonna ruin him Nah, he's polling ahead because the Florida DNC is a total poo poo show.
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WampaLord posted:Nah, he's polling ahead because the Florida DNC is a total poo poo show. The Florida Dems are a poo poo show, but he's polling ahead because he is a sitting Senator and Florida is a poo poo state. The previous R candidates were all tied or losing to Murphy and Grayson.
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reminder that Rubio got kneecapped by Chris Christie - the most pathetic man alive
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"but wait randroid, sure JEB is the most pathetic?" you might ask, but consider this - between Christie and Bush, which one willingly made himself Donald Trumps gimp?
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Jul 20, 2016 16:47
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alternate history election year fanfiction is the best because they completely ignore the actual political dynamics in play
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paranoid randroid posted:"but wait randroid, sure JEB is the most pathetic?" you might ask, but consider this - between Christie and Bush, which one willingly made himself Donald Trumps gimp? my god
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paranoid randroid posted:reminder that Rubio got kneecapped by Chris Christie - the most pathetic man alive Is that why he's so small?
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Jul 20, 2016 16:54
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Christy a man so a pathetic that the only way he can win a trial these days is by voice vote to an entirely biased jury
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Jul 20, 2016 16:56
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Christies so pathetic he tried to eat his feelings but the donut looked up at him and said "look man i aint your fuckin therapist"
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Jul 20, 2016 17:01
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Christie has been 86ed from every big and tall store in Manhattan and upper New Jersey for leaving McDs grease stains on all the clothes and now has to shop at maternity stores when he's home
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Jul 20, 2016 17:05
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Jeb! gets a lot of poo poo, but he's not the one making McDonald's runs for Trump like some kind of summer intern.
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Jul 20, 2016 17:08
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Christie got thrown out of a Burlington Coat Factory for sleazing the place up
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Pinely posted:Jeb! gets a lot of poo poo, but he's not the one making McDonald's runs for Trump like some kind of summer intern.
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When Christie is in the city at least once a day he has to explain that he's not a promotional mascot for a mafia themed all you can eat buffet
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Jul 20, 2016 17:12
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Or Pokemon Go
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even New Jersey thinks Christie is inexcusable. thats like having a hobo yell at you to get a job.
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Jul 20, 2016 17:14
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reminder that the donor class went and BEGGED christie to run
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broken clock opsec posted:reminder that the donor class went and BEGGED christie to run That's the silver lining to this resurgence of white nationalist isolationism in the GOP: their donor class, who are quite literally the scum of the earth have to decide between supporting a man who has promised to ruin their investments or a woman who they've spent millions demonizing for decades, but who more or less shares their economic outlook
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fishmech posted:my god so perfect an observation that not even fishmech can find an angle to debate it
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