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Basically everything but the very first game is part of the same continuity (insofar as that poo poo honestly matters for a series like this), right?
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Ciaphas posted:Basically everything but the very first game is part of the same continuity (insofar as that poo poo honestly matters for a series like this), right? The spinoffs are in their own continuity, but Rebirth 2/3/V-II are the same continuity, yes. I THINK Rebirth 1 and U share a continuity since the world map design of Gameindustri is the same between games and U mentions the Console Wars which Rebirth 1 covered but every other game is in a completely different universe that doesn't relate to the others at all.
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Jul 24, 2016 23:49
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Mordaedil posted:There is a Neptunia nendoroid? It came out with the special edition of the anime back in 2013. They never sold it separately.
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Jul 25, 2016 01:20
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Basically, Re;Birth 1 was the only way to make Neptunia 1 playable, and Neptunia mk2 was the first step is distancing the main series from the original. Nep 1 *is* referenced in the rest of the mainline games, as they do mention Superdimension Arfoire's existence in passing, and the opening cutscene of Victory/Re;Birth 3 is the very first battle of Neptunia 1 where everyone gangs up on Purple Heart and destroys her. In mk2, Arfoire was previously defeated, which caused the CFW team to show up and try to revive her. Re;Birth 1's True End has the cast turning Superdimension Arfoire into a good guy, meaning she's not the same one that was defeated in mk2's history. Without Nep1/Re;Birth 1, you wouldn't know who Arfoire is or why The Deity of Sin is a big deal, aside from them saying she is. The Arfoire from Victory/Re;Birth 3 is a totally different (and far less competent) Arfoire, and V2's Arfoire is built on the memory of a previous Arfoire, most likely Ultradimension Arfoire. Basically, the only legit Arfoire that gets fleshed out is the first one, and since she is THE central connecting factor of the entire franchise, it's worth playing Re;Birth 1 to understand her.
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That reminds me, the resolution of the true ending in the very first game on PS3 and the true ending in Rebirth 1 are pretty wildly different. The original game more or less required that Mk2 was a reboot of sorts while Rebirth 1's true ending pretty easily opens up the possibility of future games set in the Superdimension. Rebirth 1 has to be the loosest remake I know of, since only a small number of plot threads carry over to the remake and even then the characters react completely different to those that are the same between games.
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Jul 25, 2016 01:39
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Rebirth 1 is barely a remake and more a complete reimagining of the same basic plot points from the ground up.
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https://twitter.com/Ichikyo57/status/757233341552885761
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Jul 25, 2016 06:28
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i never could comprehend how that character's hairstyle would exist
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Jul 25, 2016 07:09
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CrashCat posted:i never could comprehend how that character's hairstyle would exist Anime.
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I just hope that whatever this is that Otoha has the decency to bring none of Omega Quintet's mechanics with her.
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Takoluka posted:Basically, Re;Birth 1 was the only way to make Neptunia 1 playable, and Neptunia mk2 was the first step is distancing the main series from the original. So you'd say it's not really worth looking at Feinne's Nep1 LP for a story overview (except in the broadest possible strokes I guess), right I'm looking at the mk2 LP and yeah I get the broad strokes well enough but details'd be nice (and I'm OCD like that and bored enough to care about dumb referential anime nonsense) Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Jul 25, 2016 |
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Jul 25, 2016 07:45
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Ciaphas posted:So you'd say it's not really worth looking at Feinne's Nep1 LP for a story overview (except in the broadest possible strokes I guess), right Feinne's LP is worth looking at if you're going to play Rebirth 1 as it makes for a fun compare and contrast where you'll realize that not only is Rebirth 1 much better to actually play but the characters are a billion times more likeable and the jokes can be pretty amusing too. But yeah, the original more or less doesn't matter anymore. cheetah7071 posted:Rebirth 1 is barely a remake and more a complete reimagining of the same basic plot points from the ground up. Pretty much. One thing from the original game is that the CPUs are actually all horrible people and it's hard to like any of them. Noire goes after Neptune knowing she's lost her memory and prioritizes killing her over dealing with the much more pressing issue of Avenir, ditto with Blanc even as she's losing followers to Arfoire and while Vert comes across as the most friendly, she's quick to accuse Neptune of faking being poisoned by Yvoire as a way to discredit her. Even by the end of the game, none of them really like each other at all and are just banding together to stop a common threat and in the true ending, all decide to stop being CPUs. None of them are interesting or likeable enough to care about. Even the main trio of Neptune, Compa and IF aren't overly likeable since IF is much more standoffish to Neptune in it and if I remember right, when Yvoire gave her the poison she was seriously considering using it in the original game. In Rebirth 1, the CPUs all join your party much earlier on and are generally nicer people overall. Noire does attack Neptune still but feels awful about it afterwards and requests her help in stopping Avenir, Vert and Blanc have bigger issues to worry about than Neptune and gladly take her offer of help, they start to joke around and become friends and realize that the Console War was really, really dumb and IF doesn't seriously consider poisoning Neptune and while is still a foil to her, isn't as much of an rear end in a top hat about it. Rebirth 1 isn't better than the original just for gameplay reasons, the characters and "story" for what little of it there is are much more fun too.
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13/f/cali posted:I just hope that whatever this is that Otoha has the decency to bring none of Omega Quintet's mechanics with her. ORDER BREAK ORDER BREAK ORDER BREAK 
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Pretty much. One thing from the original game is that the CPUs are actually all horrible people and it's hard to like any of them. Noire goes after Neptune knowing she's lost her memory and prioritizes killing her over dealing with the much more pressing issue of Avenir, ditto with Blanc even as she's losing followers to Arfoire and while Vert comes across as the most friendly, she's quick to accuse Neptune of faking being poisoned by Yvoire as a way to discredit her. Even by the end of the game, none of them really like each other at all and are just banding together to stop a common threat and in the true ending, all decide to stop being CPUs. None of them are interesting or likeable enough to care about. Even the main trio of Neptune, Compa and IF aren't overly likeable since IF is much more standoffish to Neptune in it and if I remember right, when Yvoire gave her the poison she was seriously considering using it in the original game.
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http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/327/1327882/ Chaos Champuru
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CrashCat posted:That's pretty hosed up, I have the disc for 1 but have been avoiding it because it's supposed to be trash to play, but this story difference sounds insane. I might have to read that LP just for shits then Yeah, they really adhered to the "console war" aspect that even by the end of the true ending, the CPUs still don't really like each other. They just decide to end the war by calling it quits and no longer being CPUs. It's kind of hard to connect and care about the cast where everyone is completely awful. That's why even though people now give Mk.2 and Nepgear a ton of crap since Victory, VII, the Rebirth remake and ports and the various spinoffs, at the time it was a genuine improvement not only in gameplay but with how the characters interacted with each other too.
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Dehry posted:http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/327/1327882/ COME ON COMPILE HEART SMASH
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Takoluka posted:COME ON COMPILE HEART SMASH
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if you aren't nepping as a family, then your life is a mess we're here for you
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pretty sure you have to fool someone into thinking you don't nep to get a family in the first place
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Speaking as a bachelor with no intent of ever changing that situation I had no problem buying Re;Birth 1 this morning (pretty sure my cat gave me a look of purest loathing on my way out the door, though) Guess we'll see tonight whether my generally high tolerance for Stupid Anime Bullshit holds up to something of this caliber
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Jul 25, 2016 20:27
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Bash Sisters with Compile Heart characters would be fun. I'm still holding out for a Uni spinoff game developed by the Earth Defense Force developers where giant Clydes, Pixelinvaders, Horsebirds and Dogoos start destroying the cities on Planeptune, Lastation, Lowee and Leanbox and Uni has to shoot them all down and blow up all the buildings in the process. Nepgear can provide her with support by deploying a pilotable Nepgeardam to fight against a giant mutant radioactive fire breathing Warechu.
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Man I feel like I'm having the same issue with this game as I did with Generations. The game just barphs out a bunch of information at me, I retain like half of it, and have no loving clue as to how most of the systems works. Is there a good write-up that explains all this poo poo?
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SweetBro posted:Man I feel like I'm having the same issue with this game as I did with Generations. The game just barphs out a bunch of information at me, I retain like half of it, and have no loving clue as to how most of the systems works. Is there a good write-up that explains all this poo poo? What questions you got?
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Jul 26, 2016 01:36
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Anything I should know gameplay wise going into Re;birth 1 tonight, not having played anything in the series, or can I reasonably wing it?
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Jul 26, 2016 01:52
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The game is not complicated, so you'll be able to learn everything fairly simply.
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The games can APPEAR complicated, but there's no real way to gently caress yourself over. Just minor ways to not be 100% efficient/slow yourself down a little.
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Jul 26, 2016 02:37
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Find a quick guide for the True Ending, and just play the game normally around the generally simple requirements for it.
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Jul 26, 2016 02:41
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Embrace anime
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Also you'll run into an early difficulty spike while you're in Lastation for the first time; buy and equip Life Rings when the shop starts selling them, and remember your buffs. Otherwise, yeah, you can generally wing it, just kill everything you see at least once and make sure you keep accepting new Quests when they pop up. If you care about True Ending, just look up a quick guide, but you can't screw yourself out of it; it'll just make you take a bit longer if you want it.
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Kurui Reiten posted:The games can APPEAR complicated, but there's no real way to gently caress yourself over. Just minor ways to not be 100% efficient/slow yourself down a little. I'd say that as far as game mechanics go the biggest rookie mistake it's possible to make is forgetting to keep combos up to date, since not having a good combo setup means your normal attacks will be super weak and it'll take forever to build EXE gauge. All three types of combo attack have something you can say for them (although Rush generally dominates the late game), but you gotta specialise your characters in one or maybe two types and equip the strongest available attacks from those types. Ozdhaka posted:Also you'll run into an early difficulty spike while you're in Lastation for the first time; buy and equip Life Rings when the shop starts selling them, and remember your buffs. It's worth noting that you don't have to go out of your way to actually do all the quests, and in fact you usually shouldn't bother unless the reward is something worthwhile or you're manipulating shares toward some specific goal: just accept them so that if you do want to turn them in later you might find you've already done them. Thuryl fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Jul 26, 2016 |
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Pfffffff http://gematsu.com/2016/07/nepunepu-connect-chaos-champions-free-play-card-battle-game-ps-vita It's a free 2 play card game. For Vita. Ahahaha oh man CH you got us good! I give you... 6 months before you close down, and I'm being generous here.
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Jul 26, 2016 13:39
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Well, that seems more consistent with their strengths anyway
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Barf, how make a game completely unappealing to the west is to make it a free-to-play card game only on the vita. I feel like Compile Heart could make the most glorious anime game ever if they remotely had a budget. Would put Tales down in shame. VII-2 was a right step.
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i'm so mad right now
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Dammit, I wanted a Smash Bros clone, not a Hearthfire clone. This is something that would be announced as a side project, not a main announcement.
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Dammit, I wanted a Smash Bros clone, not a Hearthfire clone. This is something that would be announced as a side project, not a main announcement. This game should be tossed in a hearthfire.
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Dammit, I wanted a Smash Bros clone, not a Hearthfire clone. This is something that would be announced as a side project, not a main announcement. nobody buys Smash clones though, RPG fanatics would buy a card game
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Dammit, I wanted a Smash Bros clone, not a Hearthfire clone. What are you talking about? I'd totally buy a Hearthfire clone. That is, a clone of Skyrim's Hearthfire expansion where you run around and build houses piece by piece might be pretty great in Neptunia's high-tech world. Bonus points if it's set in the first game with the floating islands. Now, a Hearthstone clone, probably not.
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poo poo. I got the two mixed up. You're right, a Hearthfire clone would be awesome. SimGamindustri but you can design the minute details of your buildings would be great.
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