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LochNessMonster posted:After Senõr System Administrator obviously comes Systems Führer. Il Duce Dei Sistemi comes before Führer.
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My coworker puts our security template on everything and calls it "complete" We had a meeting last week about some WLC deployments for a client, he said the WLC's were "complete" I went to install them yesterday. Security template. No wireless config, no ip's other than the management port. Hadn't even fleshed out the vlans on the core side so I could provision them from the lab. We sat in their office and configured them live. Then, as a testament to how complete this deployment was, he came in today and told me he doesn't think we're gonna even continue using the ranges we set up for each vlan and will change them again...maybe..i don't know he hasn't really thought it out. I'm not even mad, I actually had never configured a 5760 wlc and they're entirely different from the 5500's and 8500's so it was a learning experience, just thought it was funny how that could be considered complete. I keep imaging my old boss having to deal with this guy and firing him immediately. He's all over the place. And to answer your title question, I would go with Technical Solutions Architect or "The Architect" because that would be cool on a business card.
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Jul 28, 2016 18:12
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MrMojok posted:"What do I do? System architecture, networking and security. No one in this house can touch me on that. But does anybody appreciate that? While you were busy minoring in gender studies and singing a capella at Sarah Lawrence, I was gaining root access to NSA servers. I was one click away from starting a second Iranian Revolution.
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Jul 28, 2016 18:14
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MrMojok posted:"What do I do? System architecture, networking and security. No one in this house can touch me on that. But does anybody appreciate that? While you were busy minoring in gender studies and singing a capella at Sarah Lawrence, I was gaining root access to NSA servers. I was one click away from starting a second Iranian Revolution. I should probably just cut and paste that monologue onto my LinkedIn profile and see if recruiters notice.
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Jul 28, 2016 18:27
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Being a company with Québec offices, you can just do what we do and call yourself an "Administrateur Système Principal" to sound extra fancy.
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Jul 28, 2016 18:33
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MrMojok posted:"What do I do? System architecture, networking and security. No one in this house can touch me on that. But does anybody appreciate that? While you were busy minoring in gender studies and singing a capella at Sarah Lawrence, I was gaining root access to NSA servers. I was one click away from starting a second Iranian Revolution. I went looking for the Youtube video of this and came across a series of gifs of it on Imgur under the title "Gilfoyle's badass speech" which is just so dang  of a way to describe it.
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Jul 28, 2016 18:35
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CLAM DOWN posted:Being a company with Québec offices, you can just do what we do and call yourself an "Administrateur Système Principal" to sound extra fancy. Just refer to yourself as "L'ordinateur" because it sounds classy... 
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Jul 28, 2016 18:36
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Dick Trauma posted:Just refer to yourself as "L'ordinateur" because it sounds classy... vous n'êtes pas l'ordinateur......
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Jul 28, 2016 18:38
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Je suis l'Ordinateur Suprême! Come on.. it sounds good. Admit it.
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Jul 28, 2016 18:40
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Thought Associate.
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Jul 28, 2016 19:48
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We merged with a larger organization and I swear, I've learned more about how to throw your weight around in the last 2 months than in my career leading up to this point. Their managers are absolutely masters of that "act like we're providing options while making it clear that you'll be doing things the way we do things" email. I'm learning so much from this - a style I'll be adopting when convenient.
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Jul 28, 2016 19:51
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WHat sort of college education/degree is expected if you plan to work in IT in the US?
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Jul 28, 2016 21:11
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Anything with a BA or BS will qualify you for IT work yes even gender studies. The main thing a degree shows these days is a willingness to complete a goal and the potential for critical thinking.
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Jul 28, 2016 21:19
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SaltLick posted:Anything with a BA or BS will qualify you for IT work yes even gender studies. This is a thing that people think.
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Jul 28, 2016 21:31
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I have faith that as a thread we can get through this subject and emerge unharmed
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Jul 28, 2016 21:33
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If it's all the same, I'd rather just argue over whose degree is better. I'll go first. UC Irvine. Beat it.
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Jul 28, 2016 21:40
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Farecoal posted:WHat sort of college education/degree is expected if you plan to work in IT in the US? A general degree (non IT) will get you into a good number of places. But HR can demand you have a degree in "Computer Science / Network engineer" even with 10 years in field because they don't know what is going on. It might not even be the hiring managers fault, HR sometimes just shoves that on there and auto dumps anyone without it. If you are specifically looking to get into IT and are finishing highschool, schools call IT degrees different things so ask guidance or a recruiter at the school of your choice. Some bundle network and server into one degree and call it "Network Engineering" other will break it into 2 pieces. If you want to actually learn something take classes at a place with a ton of hands on and labs. Theory is not going to help you setup a Domain Controller. If you are looking to go back to school, try your luck and just apply, maybe study for an take some certs. Certs can be great. Figure out what you want to do in IT and go for it. IT is pretty diverse and while 1 person can cover the basics of most things saying "I want to do IT" is like saying "I want to work at an office" You can be sales, customer service, purchasing, or HR. In IT you can do Networking or Servers or Help Desk, and that can branch of even more at some really large places or if you are consulting. But don't worry too much beyond "Network (Switches / Routers) / Servers (Linux / Microsoft Active Directory, mostly script work and patch management) / Help Desk (Helping users resolve issues). You want to find something in that realm that. Basically you might be able to be one of the rare success stories that gets by without a degree or any certs, but a degree will help a ton, if you don't have any degrees I suggest you get one related, if you have a degree already get some certs a cert or two to back you up and apply. Even if you do get by sometimes you will miss your next job because someone with half your experience and a quarter of your talent has a degree. So go get one.
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Jul 28, 2016 21:40
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:If it's all the same, I'd rather just argue over whose degree is better. I'll go first. UC Irvine. Beat it. Trump University.
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Jul 28, 2016 22:30
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:If it's all the same, I'd rather just argue over whose degree is better. I'll go first. UC Irvine. Beat it. UC...LA  (The smug fades quickly when considering what I managed to accomplish with that degree) 
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Jul 28, 2016 22:35
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College of Drinking and Women Studies
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Jul 28, 2016 22:35
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Farecoal posted:WHat sort of college education/degree is expected if you plan to work in IT in the US? Associates in "Information Systems" from a local non-profit community college or Bachelors of Computer Science or "Information Systems".
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Jul 28, 2016 22:47
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:If it's all the same, I'd rather just argue over whose degree is better. I'll go first. UC Irvine. Beat it. Tufts University. (It's in History with a concentration on the Middle East and it took 6 years. It does seem to legitimately impress recruiters until they see the "B.A., History" part. Then they're just confused.)
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Jul 28, 2016 22:53
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Oh god we're all History majors aren't we? 
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Jul 28, 2016 22:56
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Dick Trauma posted:Oh god we're all History majors aren't we? Doomed to repeat it.
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Jul 28, 2016 22:56
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Oh god are we really? Because I am too, I just never mention it. Ancient rome. Anyone want to know anything about Eusebius? Anyone?
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Jul 28, 2016 22:57
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I did history/poli sci major for a term because I couldn't make up my mind then changed programs again because I realized how unemployable it was 
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Jul 28, 2016 23:03
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Figured I was the only history major... Russia & the Middle East but only up to ~1917 concentration as well.
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Jul 28, 2016 23:06
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I got my first job with no degree and was paid in pennies. Got the second job with an associates and am paid a livable wage. Getting my bachelors this year and am already being hit up by recruiters for a true IT income. You can get jobs at any education level but it's really not worth it until you get that degree.
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Jul 28, 2016 23:10
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Tomorrow is Systems Administrator day, and this video is not bad at all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPuoDYBBLPQ
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Jul 28, 2016 23:11
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"No, I can't configure that firewall but LET ME TELL YOU ALL ABOUT THE WAR OF THE BAVARIAN SUCCESSION!" 
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Jul 28, 2016 23:17
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Texas A&M Stared engineering ended up English. Boy there are some choices I wish I had done differently then.
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Jul 28, 2016 23:20
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School of hard knocks. No degree, I went the military route, its opened a lot of doors in my career, more than any degree would have.
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Jul 29, 2016 00:03
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Judge Schnoopy posted:You can get jobs at any education level but it's really not worth it until you get that degree.
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Jul 29, 2016 00:37
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Virginia Tech - BS Computer Engineering It becomes a little depressing about half way through that they are all weed out classes. But hey, gotta start drinking sometime. I made the bad decisions after I graduated. Tried to start my own company doing "something with computers and coding" bounces around to the USPTO as an examiner and ran screaming. Did my own PC repair for a while. Got with an MSP because eating is cool, bounced back into higher Ed and feeling pretty good about it.
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Jul 29, 2016 00:47
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Judge Schnoopy posted:I got my first job with no degree and was paid in pennies. Got the second job with an associates and am paid a livable wage. Getting my bachelors this year and am already being hit up by recruiters for a true IT income. Yeah you're pay goes up by years in field, you didn't look for a better job until you had that degree. Fresh out of school with a bachelors in Network Engineering almost everyone else in my class took a helpdesk job paying basically min wage. I took a pretty good paying (for skill level) helpdesk/system admin job moved on to my current job, where I am the solo IT department for a small company, and plan on moving on in about a year after I get a P2V project that is planned finished up and get into a larger company that can pay me more. I don't have any certs and that might hold me back, but that is one of the perks I'm going to be looking for. That said still a small sample size, class started with about 500 students, and ended with 7. Having your pick of time of day and even teacher in the beginning to last week of classes having a meeting and working out a schedule that works for everyone was interesting.
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Jul 29, 2016 00:52
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BS in Info. Tech from over a decade ago and still paying the loans. Wish I hadn't bothered, really. Although it may have gotten me my current job just because I went to the same school as my boss 
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Jul 29, 2016 00:58
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:GOD DAMNIT SASSY GOONS These are some good rear end titles For what it's worth I asked this exact question like 2 years ago and my favorite serious answer was Lead System Administrator (or Engineer if you prefer). But that was when I was at the team lead level implementing directives like "we are buying a shitload of Cisco UCS. Make it work well". If you're actually architecting the whole drat thing soup to nuts, go with an Architect title.
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Jul 29, 2016 01:22
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:Oh god are we really? Because I am too, I just never mention it. Ancient rome. Anyone want to know anything about Eusebius? Anyone? I dig the writings of Marcus Aurelius. Sheep posted:Figured I was the only history major... Russia & the Middle East but only up to ~1917 concentration as well. Funny, I mainly focused on post-Ottoman. Dick Trauma posted:"No, I can't configure that firewall but LET ME TELL YOU ALL ABOUT THE WAR OF THE BAVARIAN SUCCESSION!" WHAT ABOUT THE CONCORDAT OF WORMS?!
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Jul 29, 2016 01:27
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pixaal posted:A general degree (non IT) will get you into a good number of places. But HR can demand you have a degree in "Computer Science / Network engineer" even with 10 years in field because they don't know what is going on. It might not even be the hiring managers fault, HR sometimes just shoves that on there and auto dumps anyone without it. I'm in the midst of attempting a career change into IT and am currently taking classes at my local community college, which has (as far as I can tell) pretty good labs although I'm still pretty early on in the program. I'm taking the second part of my A+ next week and trying to decide on what cert to go after next. I seem to be pretty good at linux and enjoy it, is linux+ worthwhile? Or would it be better to try to go right to RHCSA? I'm mostly interested in working in some sort of cloud/aws/gce/docker type role. fake edit: I guess this would be better in the certs thread, but the topic came up here.
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Inspector_666 posted:I dig the writings of Marcus Aurelius. The idiot office manager fancies himself a polymath and my tongue is now mostly scar tissue due to having to bite it each time I hear him saying something really goddamn incorrect.
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