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Did I say performance enhancing drugs? Cookie chartreuse brontosaurus, I think I'm having a stroke!
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Jul 28, 2016 20:59
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I don't think we've talked about how awesome episode 4 was enough. and by we I mean everybody but me as i'm at a loss for words.
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Jul 28, 2016 22:28
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You just push the button to speak dude
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Jul 28, 2016 22:36
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Just finished the season and holy poo poo this show guys... gently caress, man.
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Jul 29, 2016 01:37
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I've heard of "laugh til you cry", but this is ridiculous!
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Jul 29, 2016 02:02
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Hedrigall posted:I've heard of "laugh til you cry", but this is ridiculous! That's TOO MUCH, man! *laughtrack*
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Jul 29, 2016 02:17
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Yowza yowza bobowza!
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Jul 29, 2016 03:09
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Catsplosion posted:I don't think we've talked about how awesome episode 4 was enough. The button's on your left collar.
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Jul 29, 2016 03:30
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i am the bird posted:Yowza yowza bobowza! ...
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Jul 29, 2016 04:56
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Holy poo poo - I am finally done and what a beautiful ride this season was. It was so perfect - everything so connected and sewn together without any indication that they are even leading up to something. The entire under-the-sea city was a work of art and then "You gotta be..." ending. Amazing. And that last episode? What?! What the hell? A daughter?? Goddamn I love this show.
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Jul 29, 2016 05:00
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Bojack, to Diane, mourning Sarah Lynn on his couch: "What are you doing here"
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Jul 29, 2016 08:14
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:Bojack, to Diane, mourning Sarah Lynn on his couch: "What are you doing here" That's great. As an aside, if there's one thing I think this show could do that would disappoint me, it would be BoJack and Diane sleeping together for any reason at all.
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Jul 29, 2016 08:18
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Captain Lavender posted:That's great. This would only be acceptable if Mr. Peanutbutter's cheery attitude finally snaps in half, and the show ends with him murdering everybody.
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Jul 29, 2016 09:23
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SEX BURRITO posted:drat. Thanks for this. What a fantastic piece of music. In fact something I've wanted to say throughout this season watch, but had to wait till I got caught up on the thread, was how much the opening sequence has turned into this iconic thing that instantly gets the endorphins flowing. Back in S1 I pegged it as being sort of a Mad Men parody, but without really changing anything about the simplicity of its concept it's taken on a life of its own the longer the show has gone on. I love watching it. I make special time for it. It's got such a great buildup, from scene to scene following Bojack's walleyed stare, and they can play around so much with the backgrounds as the story progresses (the Cabracadabra drivers turning into the strippers halfway through, then the whole house being empty for the final episode), but the central focus is always that great big horse face and how the cacophony of the outside world is just this sort of annoying buzz to him, an echoing tornado of other people's lives and him in a glass bubble that none of them can really break through no matter what he does. Extra bonus comes from how his backing the Tesla into his pool in Ep. 11 mirrors it, and the nihilism inherent in the final sequence of the intro is further echoed in the suicide attempt at the end of Ep. 12. The end of S2 used the theme song as a bookend to make the first two seasons feel like a self-contained narrative unit, but the way this season ends with a more thematic bit of closure to that foreshadowing is even more satisfying, even if the story itself isn't as tidily tied up.
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Jul 29, 2016 14:24
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C-SPAN Caller posted:They pulled off a 2007 flashback with no warning or background in the second episode that set up the rest of the season, they can pull off that too. Also this. I'm remembering the first impression the show made, and remember how it seemed to want to be a catchphrase machine? Like, self-aware catchphrases, but catchphrases nonetheless? "Bojack. ...Horseman. ...Obviously." And the way he would habitually overexplain a joke to make sure everyone got it, which was a good gag once, but they kept doing it to the point where it seemed to be his schtick. Not to mention "What is this, a crossover episode?" which was, again, a lampshaded Mr.PB thing, and they've continued to riff on it to the present day, but early on it added to the general feel of the show being shock humor and edgy "modern" dialogue. These days the repartee between all the cast members is far more finely tuned, and only seems to be getting denser and denser with commentary on how certain kinds of people act. I mean, this: quote:You had sex with Emily?! "I'm sorry, okay?" AND THAT IS LITERALLY WHERE TO STOP. But no, he keeps going, and he starts making excuses, like what's that supposed to accomplish? Make Todd soften, go easier on him? People who do this drive me up the wall; they can't just apologize. They have to start rationalizing and defending, right there in the moment, like somehow they can still salvage the conversation and be "right". Todd is a harmless dummy savant kind of guy without a mean bone in his body, but even he can be driven to the brink by one too many false pointless apologies. I feel like the show might not have been a "dare" so much as someone wanting really, really badly to lay down some sick commentary on natural lovely human behavior but it's taken three seasons' worth of independent character development for it to all feel organic and not to come across like the writers being gratuitously cathartic about people they know in their own lives.
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Jul 29, 2016 15:20
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Speaking of music, what was that song that played after Todd and Emily practiced kissing? It's short and ends with the words YUM YUM as it transitions to another scene. It's inexplicably gotten stuck in my head. Google is being helpful by suggesting I watch 1976 film The Yum Yum Girls or listen to Ludacris's Blueberry Yum Yum.
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Jul 29, 2016 15:24
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S2>S1>>S3 It was still fine TV but I didn't really think any of the characters developed. That said, the underwater episode, rutabagas victory and the abortion were all gold. S3 was a lot more subdued in general. That makes sense because the only development we do get is "characters becoming more alienated" and isolation is antithetical to drama.
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Jul 29, 2016 20:18
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I actually think (some of) the characters may have developed too much, to the point where I have no idea how they can continue to function as an ensemble in another season of television. Speaking of, noticed this in an interview with Raphael Bob-Waksberg - quote:Maybe we do a whole season where every character just has their own story and they don't interact with each other at all. That works for Girls. Why not? We'll see how it goes. Based on prior experience with Netflix-based 4th seasons of critically acclaimed Will Arnett vehicles, I'm... less than optimistic about this
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Jul 29, 2016 20:39
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I actually do think a split narrative between Bojack trying to live a new life in the desert and the rest of the characters in Hollywoo would be great. The characters could change without Bojack, while Bojack realizes the way he treats people is wrong when he starts to understand how much everyone has to deal with his bullshit all the time because he misses their helping him.
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Jul 29, 2016 21:04
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:I actually do think a split narrative between Bojack trying to live a new life in the desert and the rest of the characters in Hollywoo would be great. It'd be a cool direction to take it. It'd also be neat if he comes back from wandering the desert looking like Jim Carrey from the 1999 MTV Awards, strung out after getting high on life.
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Jul 29, 2016 21:19
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MrSlam posted:It'd be a cool direction to take it. Holy poo poo that would be beautiful, I can already picture it. A season arc where Todd, Diane, etc figuring out their lives without Bojack around would be great. Meanwhile Bojack's running through the desert, going to Burning Man, doing all sorts of unhinged "I'm desperately trying to find myself and be okay with who I am" stuff before he comes back. The Jim Carrey bit would be a great season end if the speech is cut short to where Bojack rags on the Oscar academy and then thanks everyone for coming out to party one last time. Nobody catches his meaning, and then the series ends.
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Jul 29, 2016 21:39
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I think this might tie back in to what people were suggesting earlier in the thread, of doing an episode completely without Bojack, even doing the opening without him in it. The thing is Bojack's already had several stretches of disappearing from everyone's life, we just stuck with him during them - the New Mexico incident and the Lynn binge were both months-long, and the rest of the cast appears to have just carried on in the meantime. They're not necessarily waiting for a month without Bojack for the scales to fall from their eyes about how much of a bad influence he is. Still, it might be an interesting direction, the only issue I see is it might lead to a sort of unfocused story like this last season where different main characters didn't intersect as much and things didn't quite so clearly build to a single climax. If they want to split up Bojack and his supporting cast they should have a clear goal behind doing so and still tie everyone's arc together somehow. Also on Bojack and Diane, possibly the only thing close to development for Bojack is they don't seem to be at risk of sleeping together. I don't think there was ever a point where Diane seemed like she was falling for him, like when Charlotte kissed Bojack and then had to ask him to leave - even at her lowest point when she crashed on his couch for four months hiding from Mr. Peanutbutter, their relationship was just two bummed out people dragging each other down. There was that bit this season where one of her old friends asked her why she went to him instead of one of her other friends and she dodged the issue, but I think that's as simple as all her other friends would've pushed her to do the right thing whereas she knew staying with Bojack would let her wallow in her misery. Despite being a core element of season one I don't know if Diane and Bojack's unhealthy friendship will continue being all that important, considering how muted it was this season.
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Dolash posted:If they want to split up Bojack and his supporting cast they should have a clear goal behind doing so and still tie everyone's arc together somehow. Yeah there'd definitely need to be a shift to another character to 'be' the Bojack. Most likely it'd be Diane. It's funny, you think when the show first starts that she's going to be the infallible straight-man who's too cool and logical for everyone's poo poo but she ends up being just as lost and troubled as everyone else. Dolash posted:their relationship was just two bummed out people dragging each other down. There was that bit this season where one of her old friends asked her why she went to him instead of one of her other friends and she dodged the issue, but I think that's as simple as all her other friends would've pushed her to do the right thing whereas she knew staying with Bojack would let her wallow in her misery. Ouch.  I just realized me and one of my best friends have that sort of relationship. Even during the hiatus you're still finding ways to hurt me Will Arnett.
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Jul 29, 2016 22:09
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Dolash posted:Also on Bojack and Diane, possibly the only thing close to development for Bojack is they don't seem to be at risk of sleeping together. I don't think there was ever a point where Diane seemed like she was falling for him, like when Charlotte kissed Bojack and then had to ask him to leave - even at her lowest point when she crashed on his couch for four months hiding from Mr. Peanutbutter, their relationship was just two bummed out people dragging each other down. There was that bit this season where one of her old friends asked her why she went to him instead of one of her other friends and she dodged the issue, but I think that's as simple as all her other friends would've pushed her to do the right thing whereas she knew staying with Bojack would let her wallow in her misery. This is what I was thinking about when I said I hope they never sleep together. Their relationship has complexities. BoJack is introspective, he understands despair, and is willing to wallow in it and commiserate. When Diane feels pressure be important and fails, he's a very comfortable place to go to. It's probably its own kind of high to hang out doing drugs with BoJack and forget about expectations of you. So in season 3 she had to stay away from him because it's too comfortable to defiantly not give a poo poo. Kind of like that 30 Rock episode about how lying down in the snow will make you feel warm and euphoric before it kills you. So if the show turned this co-dependency into a romantic thing, it'd bum me out.
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Jul 30, 2016 04:12
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Captain Lavender posted:This is what I was thinking about when I said I hope they never sleep together.
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Jul 30, 2016 05:44
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Captain Lavender posted:This is what I was thinking about when I said I hope they never sleep together. Oh god, I think I might be my friend's Bojack. Oh god.
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Jul 30, 2016 05:54
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Some people have Legos. Others have stamp collections. I run mock awards polls, and BoJack Horseman has a shot at a few (for its second season, not this one). Drop by and vote for the show, because the Emmy people sure as hell didn't.
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Jul 30, 2016 05:55
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My google fist is weak. Could someone provide the "tell me I'm good/suck a dick dumb shits" diptych?
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Jul 30, 2016 06:00
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Finally someone brings me an adequate amouny of lokos Every ep of this show is a lovely treasure
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I'm rewatching season 1 with a friend who's never seen the show, and I'd forgotten how the Herb episode makes a point of showing Bojack casually turning down drinks in the flashbacks. drat, man.
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Jul 30, 2016 19:30
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Dolash posted:Also on Bojack and Diane, possibly the only thing close to development for Bojack is they don't seem to be at risk of sleeping together. I don't think there was ever a point where Diane seemed like she was falling for him, like when Charlotte kissed Bojack and then had to ask him to leave - even at her lowest point when she crashed on his couch for four months hiding from Mr. Peanutbutter, their relationship was just two bummed out people dragging each other down. There was that bit this season where one of her old friends asked her why she went to him instead of one of her other friends and she dodged the issue, but I think that's as simple as all her other friends would've pushed her to do the right thing whereas she knew staying with Bojack would let her wallow in her misery. I kinda wanted them to get together in the past. Mostly because it'd only last a couple of episodes and would have been a spectacular trainwreck. Diane never seemed interested, but she's not one to show her feelings, and as her friend pointed out she does have a weird fixation on Bojack Either way, they need to break up Diane and Mr Peanutbutter. The marriage counselling stuff was one of the few bits of season 3 that didn't really work. It'd be far more interesting to see them go through a divorce at this point.
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Jul 30, 2016 23:10
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Lurdiak posted:I'm rewatching season 1 with a friend who's never seen the show, and I'd forgotten how the Herb episode makes a point of showing Bojack casually turning down drinks in the flashbacks. drat, man. I do like how they say "Naw, lets get rich!" because its nice to see someone taking a realistic view of the entertainment industry. It's about my vision man, I don't care about the money! gently caress you, you like the money. Sextina Aquafina was referred to as a dubstep wonderkid, but she's more like a Lady Gaga or Grimes style synthpop act. I mean, this probably comes from the writers not knowing what Dubstep actually was, and I think we're better off because gently caress Dubstep. Ooh you warbled a base and had a drop, wow you're so loving talented! I really doubt Diane and Bojack would get together, though I could see her and Mr Peanutbutter having a divorce or seperation, she ends up living at Bojacks again, and there is some night where they're both drunk as hell and Diane goes for it, but then Bojack pushes her away, showing that he is able to actually not make the wrong decision in his life for once. Hell, they could turn the tables and have Mr Peanutbutter be the horrible wreck and Bojack getting his life back together. Obviously, Mr Peanutbutter loses it finally because the print shop messes up again. "I'm sorry Diane, please put Diane in a different font, and don't write this on the banner"
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twistedmentat posted:
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Jul 30, 2016 23:41
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I've heard of "give the dog a bone", but this is ridiculous!
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Jul 30, 2016 23:43
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teen witch posted:
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Jul 30, 2016 23:48
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SEX BURRITO posted:Either way, they need to break up Diane and Mr Peanutbutter. The marriage counselling stuff was one of the few bits of season 3 that didn't really work. It'd be far more interesting to see them go through a divorce at this point. As fun as it is to see Mr. Peanutbutter being Mr. Peanutbutter, all irrepressible goofball labrador retriever, some of the most interesting moments of S3 were where he started to let things get to him. Seeing him break façade and actually get mad (whether at Diane, Bojack, his brother's spleen, or who knows what else) feels like something that's been teased more and more as the show has gone on, and his story's got to be building to something pretty big.
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Jul 30, 2016 23:51
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LeJackal posted:...get drunk and sleep with Bojack. I saw someone once mention Mr Peanutbutter being Bisexual, but I've never seen any evidence. Oh yea, I never thought of Judah being a jewish stereotype, he was more that beardo hipster with a man bun but has a professional job. I've seen lots of those guys downtown.
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Jul 30, 2016 23:52
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LeJackal posted:...get drunk and sleep with Bojack. 
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Hedrigall posted:I've heard of "give the dog a bone", but this is ridiculous! I definitely read this in PB's voice.
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