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Rooney McNibnug: Sep 2, 2008; "Life always hopes. When a definite object cannot be outlined, the indomitable spirit of hope still impels the living mass to move toward something--something that shall somehow be better."

celeron 300a posted:

does it boot from a cd or usb?

did you turn off secure boot?

how old is it?

only partially booting from usb/cd, but once I get into the actual OS, it dies.. hard

i.. think I still have it on?

the board is from mid-2013 iirc

b0red posted:

look around for the legacy boot option or some poo poo. i can't remember exactly but it was something like that with my gigabyte mobo that would stop linux usbs

I enabled IOMMU after reading that might help, but still nothing

Rooney McNibnug fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jul 27, 2016

# ? Jul 27, 2016 00:56

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 05:54

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Rooney McNibnug posted:

only partially booting from usb/cd, but once I get into the actual OS, it dies.. hard

i.. think I still have it on?

the board is from mid-2013 iirc

I enabled IOMMU after reading that might help, but still nothing

stopped being worth the effort a long time ago imo

# ? Jul 27, 2016 01:34

Dairy Days: Dec 26, 2007

Rooney McNibnug posted:

only partially booting from usb/cd, but once I get into the actual OS, it dies.. hard

i.. think I still have it on?

the board is from mid-2013 iirc

I enabled IOMMU after reading that might help, but still nothing

run memtest

# ? Jul 27, 2016 01:46

Dairy Days: Dec 26, 2007

or just go find another trash dumpster computer b/c it would probably take less time than that

# ? Jul 27, 2016 01:47

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

just don't bother running linux as any more effort invested will just land you in a stockholm syndrome situation where you waste your life trying to make things work for no reason

# ? Jul 27, 2016 11:21

Tankakern: Jul 25, 2007

ahmeni posted:

do they support VDPAU without being a giant hacky turd yet

If you have a UVD card: https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/#index8h2 and use mesa

# ? Jul 27, 2016 11:49

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

just don't bother running linux as any more effort invested will just land you in a stockholm syndrome situation where you waste your life trying to make things work for no reason

that + a job

# ? Jul 27, 2016 16:55

celeron 300a: Jan 23, 2005; by exmarx; Yam Slacker

Rooney McNibnug posted:

only partially booting from usb/cd, but once I get into the actual OS, it dies.. hard

i.. think I still have it on?

the board is from mid-2013 iirc

If you are getting far enough into the OS that you see a linux-specific boot screen or console output, that might rule out UEFI issues.

But regardless, try a legacy boot without UEFI. Your mobo came out a little after windows 8, so your uefi firmware might still be a bit suspect.

You may have to disable secure boot to get the legacy boot option.

# ? Jul 28, 2016 02:43

ahmeni: May 1, 2005; It's one continuous form where hardware and software function in perfect unison, creating a new generation of iPhone that's better by any measure.; Grimey Drawer

Tankakern posted:

If you have a UVD card: https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/#index8h2 and use mesa

I generally follow vid card stuff but this is all incomprehensible nonsense

# ? Jul 28, 2016 11:35

Tankakern: Jul 25, 2007

ahmeni posted:

I generally follow vid card stuff but this is all incomprehensible nonsense

Scroll to https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/#index5h2 to see what the code names means, they're using the chipset family names instead of the marketing names

# ? Jul 28, 2016 12:09

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Tankakern posted:

Scroll to https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/#index5h2 to see what the code names means, they're using the chipset family names instead of the marketing names

amd's own developers do this even

# ? Jul 28, 2016 14:14

Apocadall: Mar 25, 2010; Aren't you the guitarist for the feed dogs?

i actually like linux, but only from putty in windows

# ? Jul 28, 2016 14:24

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Apocadall posted:

i actually like linux, but only from putty in windows

same!!

# ? Jul 28, 2016 23:06

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

i am going to try to upgrade to fedora 24 today. but first i need to make sure my last 6 months of dotfiles are saved. wish me luck

# ? Jul 28, 2016 23:56

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

bluetooth headphones with mic.

cant get stereo to work.

fix is some huge python script?

cool

# ? Jul 29, 2016 00:24

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

i am going to try to upgrade to fedora 24 today. but first i need to make sure my last 6 months of dotfiles are saved. wish me luck

fedora supports inplace upgrades that don't suck, now: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade

(amusingly, the old way to do it was a tool called "fedup")

# ? Jul 30, 2016 04:20

bssoil: Mar 21, 2004

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

i am going to try to upgrade to fedora 24 today. but first i need to make sure my last 6 months of dotfiles are saved. wish me luck

why? wait until 23 is dead before you attempt that

# ? Jul 30, 2016 07:41

Celexi: Nov 25, 2006; Slava Ukraini!

i upgraded to 24 from 23 and its fine so far, nothing wrong happen other than the file manager crashing on launch, but fixed that by deleting the nautilus folder from ~ and i am using nvidia.

# ? Jul 30, 2016 19:07

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Celexi posted:

i upgraded to 24 from 23 and its fine so far, nothing wrong happen other than the file manager crashing on launch

LINUX ON THE DESKTOP FOLKS

# ? Jul 30, 2016 19:24

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

Captain Foo posted:

LINUX ON THE DESKTOP FOLKS

I tried upgrading a older PC of mine from Windows 7 to 10 and it threw up a bunch of BSOD's and refused to boot even in safe mode.

A fresh clean install of 10 worked fine.

# ? Jul 30, 2016 20:40

celeron 300a: Jan 23, 2005; by exmarx; Yam Slacker

ratbert90 posted:

I tried upgrading a older PC of mine from Windows 7 to 10 and it threw up a bunch of BSOD's and refused to boot even in safe mode.

A fresh clean install of 10 worked fine.

When is that desktop getting linux?

# ? Jul 30, 2016 21:55

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Celexi posted:

nothing wrong happen other than the file manager crashing on launch

they managed to break xterm?!?!

# ? Jul 31, 2016 00:12

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

celeron 300a posted:

When is that desktop getting linux?

It dual boots.

# ? Jul 31, 2016 01:19

ahmeni: May 1, 2005; It's one continuous form where hardware and software function in perfect unison, creating a new generation of iPhone that's better by any measure.; Grimey Drawer

Soricidus posted:

they managed to break Iris FSN?!?!

# ? Jul 31, 2016 03:01

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Soricidus posted:

they managed to break xterm?!?!

Lomarf

# ? Jul 31, 2016 20:41

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

oh hay john c dvorak isn't dead

http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2016/02/25/why-linux-sucks-and-will-never-compete-with-windows-or-osx/

quote:

Linux is free and is actually not even worth what you pay for it. That�s why people actually are willing to pay for something else. If Linux paid you to take it it wouldn�t be any more popular than it is now.

# ? Aug 4, 2016 21:09

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

linux doesn't need to compete with windows though since windows is linux now

# ? Aug 4, 2016 21:16

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

Smythe posted:

bluetooth headphones with mic.

cant get stereo to work.

fix is some huge python script?

cool

bump

# ? Aug 4, 2016 21:22

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

I believe an OS, is the beginning and the Shell/GUI is what you add for yourself..
I find it Impossible for a Program(Chrome) to Break an interface because of a video driver..AND IT SHOULDNT..

What is happening to Linux?
To many Cooks in the Kitchen?
Major corps STILL dont think about it?? for drivers?

I find it funny that the Graphic Utilities ARNT in 1-2 Utility..

Linux USED to be #1 for Game design�for reasons..And all of them are gone.
MS wont let them make a PORT for DirectX, Not to say anything about its OTHER programming..

I remember the Old days when the Major PLAYERS in computers Made programs to work on EVERYTHING�
I could get Multiplan on Any machine..

But, its coming down to the �Atari War� again..and the Loser will be the consumer.

The DOD is going to upgrade to Win10�STUPID..
The military has been TRYING to use windows in Fighter jets�Wish I could say this was a good idea..insted of making a STRAIGHT SIMPLE INTERFACE, they complicate it�and every time it lands, it wants an UPDATE..(waiting for it to happen inflight)
What happened to GWBASIC??
GET PYTHON WORKING ON WINDOWS�

What do you think of a OS, with its OWN interface, Runs its OWN programming language(Vbasic, VC++, DX, Netframework,�,�)(makes things confusing)�
AND STILL isnt safe�

# ? Aug 4, 2016 21:22

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Endless Mike posted:

I believe an OS, is the beginning and the Shell/GUI is what you add for yourself..
I find it Impossible for a Program(Chrome) to Break an interface because of a video driver..AND IT SHOULDNT..

What is happening to Linux?
To many Cooks in the Kitchen?
Major corps STILL dont think about it?? for drivers?

I find it funny that the Graphic Utilities ARNT in 1-2 Utility..

Linux USED to be #1 for Game design�for reasons..And all of them are gone.
MS wont let them make a PORT for DirectX, Not to say anything about its OTHER programming..

I remember the Old days when the Major PLAYERS in computers Made programs to work on EVERYTHING�
I could get Multiplan on Any machine..

But, its coming down to the �Atari War� again..and the Loser will be the consumer.

The DOD is going to upgrade to Win10�STUPID..
The military has been TRYING to use windows in Fighter jets�Wish I could say this was a good idea..insted of making a STRAIGHT SIMPLE INTERFACE, they complicate it�and every time it lands, it wants an UPDATE..(waiting for it to happen inflight)
What happened to GWBASIC??
GET PYTHON WORKING ON WINDOWS�

What do you think of a OS, with its OWN interface, Runs its OWN programming language(Vbasic, VC++, DX, Netframework,�,�)(makes things confusing)�
AND STILL isnt safe�

people like this are so confusing. is it mental illness?

# ? Aug 4, 2016 22:02

celeron 300a: Jan 23, 2005; by exmarx; Yam Slacker

Endless Mike posted:

I believe an OS, is the beginning and the Shell/GUI is what you add for yourself..
I find it Impossible for a Program(Chrome) to Break an interface because of a video driver..AND IT SHOULDNT..

What is happening to Linux?
To many Cooks in the Kitchen?
Major corps STILL dont think about it?? for drivers?

I find it funny that the Graphic Utilities ARNT in 1-2 Utility..

Linux USED to be #1 for Game design�for reasons..And all of them are gone.
MS wont let them make a PORT for DirectX, Not to say anything about its OTHER programming..

I remember the Old days when the Major PLAYERS in computers Made programs to work on EVERYTHING�
I could get Multiplan on Any machine..

But, its coming down to the �Atari War� again..and the Loser will be the consumer.

The DOD is going to upgrade to Win10�STUPID..
The military has been TRYING to use windows in Fighter jets�Wish I could say this was a good idea..insted of making a STRAIGHT SIMPLE INTERFACE, they complicate it�and every time it lands, it wants an UPDATE..(waiting for it to happen inflight)
What happened to GWBASIC??
GET PYTHON WORKING ON WINDOWS�

What do you think of a OS, with its OWN interface, Runs its OWN programming language(Vbasic, VC++, DX, Netframework,�,�)(makes things confusing)�
AND STILL isnt safe�

source your quotes

# ? Aug 4, 2016 22:17

celeron 300a: Jan 23, 2005; by exmarx; Yam Slacker

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

oh hay john c dvorak isn't dead

http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2016/02/25/why-linux-sucks-and-will-never-compete-with-windows-or-osx/

I thought this was the creator of the dvorak keyboard but instead it's a really old tech columnist who actually distributed annual awards that he named after himself in the 90s.

He's a tech hipster that infested himself with the unsufferable narcissism before y2k made it cool.

# ? Aug 4, 2016 22:27

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

celeron 300a posted:

source your quotes

it's a comment to that Dvorak post

# ? Aug 4, 2016 22:29

celeron 300a: Jan 23, 2005; by exmarx; Yam Slacker

Endless Mike posted:

it's a comment to that Dvorak post

I didn't expect you to actually source it, but that's funny.

I gave in and read that dvorak post and he complains a whole lot about :

how linux distros decided to move to systemd
how it took him a year to switch between minor versions of centos 6 (when centos 7 is already out)
how his linux programs don't work like they used to in the gnome 2 times
how no one has listened to Torvald's complaints about desktop linux and "fixed it" (because, like, torvalds would love to have code minions at his beck and call)
how microsoft has people who will listen to your ideas but you can't get any linux people to help you. (forgetting, I guess, that windows 8 is a complete turd and microsoft won't stop asking people to upgrade to 10)

it is less of a "Linux has fallen behind other desktop OSes, here is how windows can satisfy my requirements better" and more of a "change is bad, systemd especially" post

# ? Aug 5, 2016 06:12

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

celeron 300a posted:

I thought this was the creator of the dvorak keyboard but instead it's a really old tech columnist who actually distributed annual awards that he named after himself in the 90s.

He's a tech hipster that infested himself with the unsufferable narcissism before y2k made it cool.

he's been doing that poo poo since the early 1980s

he actually used to have a back page column in MacUser

much to their credit, Macworld had Steven Levy in that spot

this back when there were a fraction of the Mac users there are today, yet the market could support multiple half-inch-thick monthly magazines plus a weekly and columns in all the major general magazines

# ? Aug 5, 2016 07:24

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

celeron 300a posted:

it is less of a "Linux has fallen behind other desktop OSes, here is how windows can satisfy my requirements better" and more of a "change is bad, systemd especially" post

this is quite a change from his usual MO for getting hits

back in the day he'd have talked about how awesome systemd is and how anyone who didn't like it must live in their mother's basement and probably prefers Xenia to real UNIX anyway

and he'd just keep coming up with ways to rile people to keep those clicks rolling in

# ? Aug 5, 2016 07:28

cowboy beepboop: Feb 24, 2001

thing different??? thing must be bad

# ? Aug 5, 2016 08:11

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

my stepdads beer posted:

thing different??? thing must be bad

this, but unironically

# ? Aug 5, 2016 11:57

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

people like this are so confusing. is it mental illness?

i've never understood people who randomly capitalize words mid-sentence. like not ALL CAPS for emphasis but just capitalizing a Random Word for no apparent reason

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 05:54

Raluek: Nov 3, 2006; WUT.

Endless Mike posted:

i've never understood people who randomly capitalize words mid-sentence. like not ALL CAPS for emphasis but just capitalizing a Random Word for no apparent reason

isnt it like felons hook but for schizophrenia

# ? Aug 5, 2016 22:58

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