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DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.

Ensign_Ricky posted:

Oh my god, what if they did Boys Beware?!

On the off chance you haven't seen it, it quite plainly states that homosexual=pedophile. It's soooo wrong and dark but in the right hands it could be loving amazing.

That's the kind of thing you'd want Frank Conniff in the room for. His wry lefty brain against that movie would result in some sick-nastiness.

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Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Ensign_Ricky posted:

On that note, what are some MST'd movies that you all think wouldn't be half bad if it wasn't for a few minor tweaks? (This Island Earth excepted.)

For years, I've wanted to see a remake of Santa Conquers the Martians starring Kyle Gass as Santa and Jack Black as Dropo. Getting past the bad acting and effects, I genuinely think there's a fun kids movie buried underneath it all.

Similarly, when I watched the RiffTrax Live for Manos, I realized that one thing they never ragged on was the actual plot. The movie is such a disaster, but the story is actually decent for an old horror movie and the characters act sort of competently instead of making bad decisions for the sake of making bad decisions. A while back, I interviewed Kevin Murphy and he suggested that Wes Craven's Manos could have been really good.

Bruceski posted:

I'd say they should do that Muppet Babies anti-drug movie, but I'm not sure they could add anything to it.

I think you mean that Muppet Babies, Alvin and the Chipmunks, Alf, Smurfs, Bugs Bunny, Michelangelo, Slimer and Garfield anti-drug movie. Ah, what a time it was to be a child.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Gavok posted:

I think you mean that Muppet Babies, Alvin and the Chipmunks, Alf, Smurfs, Bugs Bunny, Michelangelo, Slimer and Garfield anti-drug movie. Ah, what a time it was to be a child.

Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue. It was actually something of a major event in Saturday morning cartoons, with all the networks playing it simultaneously, so just about everyone around their mid-30s or so is sure to have fuzzy memories of it.

CommaToes
Dec 15, 2006

Ecce Buffo

Powered Descent posted:

Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue. It was actually something of a major event in Saturday morning cartoons, with all the networks playing it simultaneously, so just about everyone around their mid-30s or so is sure to have fuzzy memories of it.

My local video rental store had that on VHS. It was the only video on the entire store that you could rent for free.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Gavok posted:

I think you mean that Muppet Babies, Alvin and the Chipmunks, Alf, Smurfs, Bugs Bunny, Michelangelo, Slimer and Garfield anti-drug movie. Ah, what a time it was to be a child.

I'm honestly not sure if the roller coaster scene was just that bizarre or I repressed the rest. Or both.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Bruceski posted:

I'm honestly not sure if the roller coaster scene was just that bizarre or I repressed the rest. Or both.

No, I remember that too.

TL
Jan 16, 2006

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world

Fallen Rib
I've said this before, but Mitchell is actually a decent movie. It's biggest failing is the lack of any sympathetic/likable characters. We're supposed to root for Mitchell, and he's just such a mess you can't.

TVs Ian
Jun 1, 2000

Such graceful, delicate creatures.

Burkion posted:

One Got Fat is a national treasure of riffability and deserves to be on MST3K

My favorite thing about One Got Fat is I actually watched it on a field trip back in the 80s. There was a park that had a "Safety Town" - a kid-sized town (with driveable cars!) where they'd teach you how to cross streets and bike and drive safely. When my class went, it was raining pretty heavily. So all the outdoor stuff was cancelled, and we sat inside and watched that short.

It all felt vaguely familiar once I saw the Rifftrax, and once it hit the "monkey girl knocks old ladies up a tree" scene, I remembered the whole trip. I never did get to go back and drive the little cars.

Oh, and my dad was a police officer for the City of Glen Cove for years, when I showed him the What if We Had a Fire? short, he recognized the fire station. And the firefighter with no lines (I think he hands the kid the plastic hat) was actually someone who worked there. The other guy was an actor though.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

TVs Ian posted:

My favorite thing about One Got Fat is I actually watched it on a field trip back in the 80s. There was a park that had a "Safety Town" - a kid-sized town (with driveable cars!) where they'd teach you how to cross streets and bike and drive safely. When my class went, it was raining pretty heavily. So all the outdoor stuff was cancelled, and we sat inside and watched that short.

It all felt vaguely familiar once I saw the Rifftrax, and once it hit the "monkey girl knocks old ladies up a tree" scene, I remembered the whole trip. I never did get to go back and drive the little cars.

Oh, and my dad was a police officer for the City of Glen Cove for years, when I showed him the What if We Had a Fire? short, he recognized the fire station. And the firefighter with no lines (I think he hands the kid the plastic hat) was actually someone who worked there. The other guy was an actor though.

The short "Alcohol Trigger Films" was set in various spots near where I used to live. I was kinda weird recognizing all the spots. Some are still there.

egon_beeblebrox
Mar 1, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



TL posted:

I've said this before, but Mitchell is actually a decent movie. It's biggest failing is the lack of any sympathetic/likable characters. We're supposed to root for Mitchell, and he's just such a mess you can't.

Remake Mitchell with Danny McBride and it would be hilarious.

Manofmanusernames
Jul 27, 2012

Jackass.

twistedmentat posted:

Glad i bothered to read the thread because I was wondering if they had plans to do any new shorts, and I guess the answer is "we don't know". Though all those 70s and 80s anti drug things would be perfect. I remember seeing one in Jr High that featured a kid going out to try to score some weed and ends up getting raped and murdered in a truck. WTF?

Anyways, if anyone is curious on what kind of humor Elliott Kalan does, you can check out the Podcast he does, The Flophouse, and grab his Spider-Man and the X-men run.

I feel like this is relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHzkn5wUe1s

TL posted:

I've said this before, but Mitchell is actually a decent movie. It's biggest failing is the lack of any sympathetic/likable characters. We're supposed to root for Mitchell, and he's just such a mess you can't.

I'd watch a Mitchel TV series. I got a real Rockford files vibe from the whole thing. I think Shane Black could do some interesting things with the concept.

Pixeltendo
Mar 2, 2012


I hope this revival means the old episodes can come back to Netflix again, because as a hard of hearing fan who got introduced via it, its been tough to enjoy when I found out the dvds don't have subtitles :smith:

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

TL posted:

I've said this before, but Mitchell is actually a decent movie. It's biggest failing is the lack of any sympathetic/likable characters. We're supposed to root for Mitchell, and he's just such a mess you can't.

The movie has no clear beginning, middle, or end. I'm not 100% sure it still isn't going. And it has Joe Don Baker.

Please seek help. :ohdear:

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Chokes McGee posted:

The movie has no clear beginning, middle, or end. I'm not 100% sure it still isn't going. And it has Joe Don Baker.

Please seek help. :ohdear:

And wasn't John Saxon in the movie? What the hell happened there??

Secks
Oct 10, 2002

The city is alive tonight

Chokes McGee posted:

The movie has no clear beginning, middle, or end. I'm not 100% sure it still isn't going. And it has Joe Don Baker.

Please seek help. :ohdear:

I just re-watched Final Justice today and, my god, they are hilariously relentless.

"The sun is blotted out as Joe Don Baker approaches."

"He's got double chins on his eye lids."

"A float got loose! Oh, no, it's Joe Don Baker. Sorry."

"His weight is forcing him down the stairs."

Maelstache
Feb 25, 2013

gOTTA gO fAST

TL posted:

I've said this before, but Mitchell is actually a decent movie. It's biggest failing is the lack of any sympathetic/likable characters. We're supposed to root for Mitchell, and he's just such a mess you can't.

It always blows my mind that the writer of Mitchell, Ian Kennedy-Martin, also created The Sweeney, one of the most iconic British cop shows of all time. It's funny that the latter is considered an all time classic while Mitchell...isn't, even though they have quite a lot of elements in common - namely a main character who's overly-violent, a bit of a schlub and doesn't play by the rules. Maybe it's just because the idea works better against against a backdrop of bleak 1970s London, where everything's a bit squalid and run-down, but doesn't try to disguise the fact. Mitchell on the other hand was trying far too hard to look glamorous and exciting, and failing.

Kennedy-Martin's brother Troy wrote Edge Of Darkness, which is like the defining 80's nuclear espionage thriller...which also has Joe Don Baker.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Ensign_Ricky posted:

And wasn't John Saxon in the movie? What the hell happened there??

If i remember right they randomly kill him off and you only hear about it through a background radio news report. I want to say it was a dune buggy crash or something.
Maybe there was a scene cut from the MST3k version.

Edit: Yeah, it's on the car radio when Mitchell pulls up right before the scene where he freaks out on the kid. It's barely noticeable.

RoyKeen fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Aug 7, 2016

TVs Ian
Jun 1, 2000

Such graceful, delicate creatures.

The Ape of Naples posted:

If i remember right they randomly kill him off and you only hear about it through a background radio news report. I want to say it was a dune buggy crash or something.
Maybe there was a scene cut from the MST3k version.

Edit: Yeah, it's on the car radio when Mitchell pulls up right before the scene where he freaks out on the kid. It's barely noticeable.

There was a scene that was cut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZcDScKH4V8

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Yeah. I just watched it. It's actually not that bad of a scene though it does go on too long. Essentially they try to kill Michell by running over him with some dune buggies. One of the cars gets stuck and the driver gets out and Mitchell smashes him in the face with a rock. It's fairly brutal. I can see removing it though. It's long it's mostly Mitchell dodging the buggies. It would have been hard to riff on.

TL
Jan 16, 2006

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world

Fallen Rib

Chokes McGee posted:

The movie has no clear beginning, middle, or end. I'm not 100% sure it still isn't going. And it has Joe Don Baker.

Please seek help. :ohdear:

Joe Don Baker is actually a terrific actor.

BooDoug187
Apr 8, 2005

Don't you fear the yetis in Rio?

Ensign_Ricky posted:

Oh my god, what if they did Boys Beware?!

On the off chance you haven't seen it, it quite plainly states that homosexual=pedophile. It's soooo wrong and dark but in the right hands it could be loving amazing.

I would love a while episode of them doing those really messed up PSAs, Love to see them do "Perversion for Profit" where the thing links porn to the fall of Rome and say porn is a thing created by Commies to destroy America... oh and also fitness magazines are a tool for homosexuals to spread the gay to young boys!

A while back I found the sequel/companion piece to Boys Beware called Girls Beware. I thought it would warn girls of dirty evil lesbian pedos but shockingly no. It's a film telling young girls not to go out with older guys... cause they will rape you, whore you out, get you addicted to drugs or straight up murder you!

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

TL posted:

Joe Don Baker is actually a terrific actor.

The sad thing about Joe Don Baker is that yeah, he is. He is a fantastic actor

Which means when he's playing a slobby, stupid, ugly, moron of a cop

HE REALLY sells that role

If he didn't have his little feud after Mitchel the riffing in Final Justice wouldn't have been quite so cutthroat though, so hey

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Secks posted:

I just re-watched Final Justice today and, my god, they are hilariously relentless.

"The sun is blotted out as Joe Don Baker approaches."

"He's got double chins on his eye lids."

"A float got loose! Oh, no, it's Joe Don Baker. Sorry."

"His weight is forcing him down the stairs."

You better run!
(Or he'll steal your lunch!)
You better hide!
(Your lunch!)
You better run!
(Because he's got the runs!)
Because he won't stop until he gets his man!
(Or your lunch!)

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Gavok posted:

You better run!
(Or he'll steal your lunch!)
You better hide!
(Your lunch!)
You better run!
(Because he's got the runs!)
Because he won't stop until he gets his man!
(Or your lunch!)


Meat-balls fried in laaaaaaaaaaard!

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Mitchell is such a good riff.

"Hey, a sex film!"

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
You know what films were oddly good? Roger Corman's It Conquered The World and The Undead.

Command Ant
Aug 9, 2010

I can make you
worth your weight
in gold!

muscles like this? posted:

Mitchell is such a good riff.

"Hey, a sex film!"

Joel's shocked "WHAT??" as Mitchell's gun falls down through the leg of his pants is hilarious.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Because MST3K never ever aired in Canada, I only ever seen a handful in the 90s. Godzilla vs the one with Jetjaguar and Red Zone Cuba. Godzilla was great, but Red Zone Cuba is so insanely boring. I think it was just confusing that the cuba stuff was short and the rest became about swindling uranium claims.

Thank god for the video releases later in the 90s. I would have never would have seen the shorts, or any of the other classics. Still haven't actually seen Mitchell though.

TVs Ian
Jun 1, 2000

Such graceful, delicate creatures.

twistedmentat posted:

Thank god for the video releases later in the 90s. I would have never would have seen the shorts, or any of the other classics. Still haven't actually seen Mitchell though.

As it happens, the whole episode is on the official MST3K YouTube channel. There are annotations, but I think you can disable those somehow.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

twistedmentat posted:

Because MST3K never ever aired in Canada, I only ever seen a handful in the 90s. Godzilla vs the one with Jetjaguar and Red Zone Cuba. Godzilla was great, but Red Zone Cuba is so insanely boring. I think it was just confusing that the cuba stuff was short and the rest became about swindling uranium claims.

Thank god for the video releases later in the 90s. I would have never would have seen the shorts, or any of the other classics. Still haven't actually seen Mitchell though.

It had to have popped on some channel, as a Canadian, a fellow one introduced me to it in high school. And CTV sometimes aired MST3K The Movie as a sunday afternoon feature.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

I didn't have cable, so my friend would record them on VCR when his family watched them, and then bike the tapes over for us.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮
I never watched MST3K except for when they replayed on Sunday mornings.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Ensign_Ricky posted:

It had to have popped on some channel, as a Canadian, a fellow one introduced me to it in high school. And CTV sometimes aired MST3K The Movie as a sunday afternoon feature.

I never saw it, ever. And yea i should watch it, it being on the Youtube Channel. I mean, I finally watched Pumaman on there.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

Someone made a promise to make a RPG module for each million raised for the kickstarter, up to 7. At GenCon I got to play the first module he completed, a 5th Edition D&D adventure based on "Manos". His next project is writing a "Manos" episode for Call of Cathulhu.

I forgot one of the other ones he's writing, but the other four he's creating are Beginning of the End modules for D&D and Savage Worlds, Touch of Satan for D&D (now called "Touch of Lolth") and a dungeon crawl for Space Mutiny.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Burkion posted:

The sad thing about Joe Don Baker is that yeah, he is. He is a fantastic actor

Which means when he's playing a slobby, stupid, ugly, moron of a cop

HE REALLY sells that role

If he didn't have his little feud after Mitchel the riffing in Final Justice wouldn't have been quite so cutthroat though, so hey

That's not acting! That's just him being Joe Don Baker! It doesn't count!

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Chokes McGee posted:

That's not acting! That's just him being Joe Don Baker! It doesn't count!

My favorite Joe Don Baker moment is in Cape Fear where he talks about and drinks his dad's favorite beverage: Pepto Bismol and whiskey(?).

I imagine Joe Don Baker drinking this before and after every take, especially for Mitchell.

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


I can't think of a movie where I'm like "movies saved Joe Don Baker is in it."

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
^^ I'm kinda happy to see him in the couple of Bond films he was in, actually, for reals

twistedmentat posted:

I never saw it, ever. And yea i should watch it, it being on the Youtube Channel. I mean, I finally watched Pumaman on there.

Who? Oh, you mean Thepuma Man?

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Gaz-L posted:

^^ I'm kinda happy to see him in the couple of Bond films he was in, actually, for reals

Oh I thoroughly enjoyed him in Goldeneye.


But...The Living Daylights...hoo boy. Highlight of that film was the song by A-Ha.

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RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I think he bad guys at the start of riding with death should have molotoved the warehouse immediately after leaving. And molotoved the rear of the truck after "hijacking" the doc.

Doc's gone, gas and explosives burned everything up, clean and clear.

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