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Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Salty Josh posted:

Save face and money - buy an escort. She'll pretend she likes you, listen to what you have to say, and you'll be king for a night for only $500.00.

Do what you gotta do. Practice your stroke, work on your social skills, and ask her for help in your social awkwardness.

Thing is, when you are at least a little bit sexually active not only does it boost your confidence but pheromones get released that help you appeal to the opposite gender.

I've paid for sex plenty of times.


Moridin920 posted:



that's 2 of those now;

do people really think that's like a good compliment or something? i'm jacking off to you?

Why wouldn't it be. I mean it's still creepy to open with but still.


punakone posted:

Heres a protip i learnt on my own: you never get rejected if you never try ;)


Tumble posted:

Hot girls gently caress funny-but-not-conventionally-hot (or downright schlubby; tons of girls find Seth Rogen to be hot) guys all the damned time, and if you want to believe in leagues and "Too Hot To Talk To" that's totally on you and your depressed, lonely rear end.

The trick is enjoying common ground and making them laugh, versus just talking to them because they're hot. Most women actively root for the guy to not be a creep and interesting to talk to.

I'm much fatter than Seth Rogan

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Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
The "trick" is the same trick as in How to Make Friends and Influence People about friends: take a GENUINE interest in other people. GENUINE.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Pick posted:

The "trick" is the same trick as in How to Make Friends and Influence People about friends: take a GENUINE interest in other people. GENUINE.

sorry I'm too busy evaluating your numerical value on a ten point scale and then using a slide rule to compare that to my own value








beep boop

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Pick posted:

The "trick" is the same trick as in How to Make Friends and Influence People about friends: take a GENUINE interest in other people. GENUINE.

That's not something you can just turn on though.

Forcing yourself to have a genuine interest in someone when you don't is like trying to force yourself to like licorice.

Salty Josh
Jul 13, 2016

Sometimes there's so much beauty in the world, I feel like I can't take it, and my heart is just going to cave in.
Nap Ghost

Pick posted:

The "trick" is the same trick as in How to Make Friends and Influence People about friends: take a GENUINE interest in other people. GENUINE.

I'd say this is pretty spot on. People are extremely lonely these days due to superficial connections inspired through social media and the internet. Real conversations about themselves comes as a novel activity for a lot of them.

Sure, some people will see you as creepy and maybe question your motives. But, gently caress those people.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Pick posted:

The "trick" is the same trick as in How to Make Friends and Influence People about friends: take a GENUINE interest in other people. GENUINE.

sorry but I don't give a poo poo about anyone or anything, is there a nihilist version of this

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Blue Train posted:

sorry but I don't give a poo poo about anyone or anything, is there a nihilist version of this

Get swole and get on tinder.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
there is but you gotta read a lot of Sartre


anyway if you don't care about them why should they care about you lol that's not a leagues thing

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Moridin920 posted:

there is but you gotta read a lot of Sartre


anyway if you don't care about them why should they care about you lol that's not a leagues thing

they don't have to. I think the due is just looking to have dead-eyed robotic sex

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

Tumble posted:

Most women actively root for the guy to not be a creep and interesting to talk to.

This is true no matter where you are: Church, grocery store, a bar, etc. Hell I root for guys to be non-creeps even if I'm meeting them in a all-male place just because I don't like talking to creepers, either.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I'm a guy and I don't like when other guys are creepy because it's just uncomfortable.

it's just extreme fremdschämen

Salty Josh
Jul 13, 2016

Sometimes there's so much beauty in the world, I feel like I can't take it, and my heart is just going to cave in.
Nap Ghost
Dead-eyed robot sex is bad. But not as bad as no sex.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




cheetah7071 posted:

So far I've found that saying "Hi" in a social situation where talking to strangers is acceptable (i.e. not on the bus) is a pretty good way to talk to a girl

I'm peak goon so I've never understood when this is, so i just go with

punakone posted:

Heres a protip i learnt on my own: you never get rejected if you never try ;)

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Moridin920 posted:

anyway if you don't care about them why should they care about you lol

that's why I have sex with married women lol

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Pick posted:

Tindr is explicitly for the non-suave so I don't get the point of pointing it out really

uh because you don't get anywhere sending lovely messages? you still have to send a decent opener.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
http://i.imgur.com/T2XGAqi.jpg



hay baybay want a pic of me cumming all over myself :D

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

Moridin920 posted:

http://i.imgur.com/T2XGAqi.jpg



hay baybay want a pic of me cumming all over myself :D

ugh typical women always saying they want to chat but then get all indignant when i send a picture of me soiling myself with my own semen :rolleyes: sometimes I wonder why i even bother

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


lmao his dick aint even big in the profile pic.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

if they see my seed, they'll want to breed

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Mak0rz posted:

ugh typical women always saying they want to chat but then get all indignant when i send a picture of me soiling myself with my own semen :rolleyes: sometimes I wonder why i even bother

Chivalry is dead.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
These aren't nudes. Just dick

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

cheetah7071 posted:

These aren't nudes. Just dick

I was gonna say I'd really like to know what was going through that guy's head when he said that but the answer is probably "nothing"

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

Mak0rz posted:

I was gonna say I'd really like to know what was going through that guy's head when he said that but the answer is probably "nothing"

He probably pulled his pants around his ankles and congratulated himself on finding a loophole

pr0spector88
Aug 18, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
u ever just start running in one direction and never stop?

i ddi that awhiole ago i forget when

heh =/

snoo
Jul 5, 2007




tbh I was a piece of poo poo (albeit mentally ill) teenager here on SA and elsewhere and I got a lot of poo poo from goons (some of it was legitimate and I can say helped me grow as a person, most of it was harassment or poo poo like calling my parents/posting my tits on 4chan), and my now-husband reached out to me through PMs and was like 'y goons mean/I wanna be your friend'. We chatted a bit but then I got banned, and then later he found me on facebook and after a bunch of stupid terrible poo poo in our lives, we started skyping and voice chatting daily, for hours and hours. :shrug: We had a lot in common regarding, for lack of a better word, trauma and other unpleasantness, and he's also really loving hilarious. And then he moved to where I am, etc. etc. and I guess what I'm trying to say is, be a stupid sad piece of poo poo online and maybe a nice person will try to help you and then maybe you can help each other out of your personal hellholes :unsmith:

Anyway the way we met is super weird and nontraditional, even beyond dating websites, and it's really hard to explain to people who ask, but everyone seems happy for us, and I am, too.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
"Be sad online and solicit strangers to move across country for you" is definitely top tier advice thanks Snoo.

generative grammer
Jul 28, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
There's no point to wish for a ferrari when you know you will never afford one, also social skills are something like native language or playing the violin that ought to be learned before puberty when new neural connections are forming in the brain at a really fast pace -- trying to learn that poo poo without any prior practice later in life is insanely brutally hard and the results will certainly be lackluster. That "video games are better than sex" goon was right, some people would be a lot happier if they stopped sweating about sexuality (or just were content with being a wanker) and devoted their life to something else like a monk

Fat Shat Sings
Jan 24, 2016

The Snoo posted:

tbh I was a piece of poo poo (albeit mentally ill) teenager here on SA and elsewhere and I got a lot of poo poo from goons (some of it was legitimate and I can say helped me grow as a person, most of it was harassment or poo poo like calling my parents/posting my tits on 4chan), and my now-husband reached out to me through PMs and was like 'y goons mean/I wanna be your friend'. We chatted a bit but then I got banned, and then later he found me on facebook and after a bunch of stupid terrible poo poo in our lives, we started skyping and voice chatting daily, for hours and hours. :shrug: We had a lot in common regarding, for lack of a better word, trauma and other unpleasantness, and he's also really loving hilarious. And then he moved to where I am, etc. etc. and I guess what I'm trying to say is, be a stupid sad piece of poo poo online and maybe a nice person will try to help you and then maybe you can help each other out of your personal hellholes :unsmith:

Anyway the way we met is super weird and nontraditional, even beyond dating websites, and it's really hard to explain to people who ask, but everyone seems happy for us, and I am, too.

I think this is a niceguy success story since a whiteknight got rewarded for his service

pr0spector88
Aug 18, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

generative grammer posted:

There's no point to wish for a ferrari when you know you will never afford one, also social skills are something like native language or playing the violin that ought to be learned before puberty when new neural connections are forming in the brain at a really fast pace -- trying to learn that poo poo without any prior practice later in life is insanely brutally hard and the results will certainly be lackluster. That "video games are better than sex" goon was right, some people would be a lot happier if they stopped sweating about sexuality (or just were content with being a wanker) and devoted their life to something else like a monk

imagine how much of humanity you can help with an attitude like this

is that preachy or too mindfulness culty?

u all got born somewhere most u are not from the orphanariums of any sort

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Benny Harvey posted:

they don't have to. I think the due is just looking to have dead-eyed robotic sex

Go on... :stare:

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



That tinder chat about tugging it to profiles and chatting to the one you cum on is a great strategy.

It's also how I pick who I reply to on SA.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Blue Train posted:

that's why I have sex with married women lol

haha great stuff

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Ratjaculation posted:

haha great stuff

its funny cause it's true

snoo
Jul 5, 2007




Chomp8645 posted:

"Be sad online and engage with strangers about it" is definitely top tier advice thanks Snoo.

It was mostly sarcasm, but at the very least I felt like we connected better because there wasn't any first impression/awkwardness bullshit going on, and it's easier to discuss things through writing, especially stuff that's hard to say out loud. Of course we're comfortable with each other and talk about things all the time, but it was a big help for two weird sad people

And again that's honestly an interesting thing regarding how dating and relationships evolved with the internet. :) on the other hand, unsolicited dick pics

Kehveli
Apr 1, 2009

Push It Like You Push Your Girlfriend

generative grammer posted:

social skills are something like native language or playing the violin that ought to be learned before puberty when new neural connections are forming in the brain at a really fast pace -- trying to learn that poo poo without any prior practice later in life is insanely brutally hard and the results will certainly be lackluster.

If you have even some sort of a base to work from it's not exactly impossible. I'm a recovering addict who used to function in a world that has different rules from the "normal" life I live now, so the first year or two were a pretty big shock in terms of how much I really didn't know about how to just.. be with people. But the thing is, or at least for me was, you just have to keep putting yourself into those situations. A lot of the time people who want to change a certain aspect of themselves get this short-lived spark that dies when poo poo doesn't just happen the first attempt. They put themselves out of their comfort zone, and when they feel uncomfortable, they give up. As long as you have a certain level of self-awareness and ability to reflect on your own actions, being a non-creepy person shouldn't be out of anyones grasp. Most people have some level of social skills to start working from, even if they're on the level of "if I say this, I'm gonna get punched in the face".

The bigger problem is probably externalizing the problem to be ~bitches~ or whatever. As long as the will to look into the mirror and realize the problem starts there exists and you're humble enough to ask someone what you should be working on, most people could probably reach the seemingly exclusive level of social skill that is not creepy, even if not incredibly charismatic.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Benny Harvey posted:

That's not something you can just turn on though.

Forcing yourself to have a genuine interest in someone when you don't is like trying to force yourself to like licorice.

Step one is just listen earnestly and try to seriously just imagine the scenario from their perspective.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
As simple as tinder is, I don't really get it. Mostly because I've never been matched with anybody and I have more luck with people in person.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Arcsquad12 posted:

As simple as tinder is, I don't really get it. Mostly because I've never been matched with anybody and I have more luck with people in person.

you match, you start a conversation, they give you their number, you go out. i don't know how you aint getting matches i'm no prize and i get at least five a week.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Tinder was viable for casual hookups until it became widely known that Tinder was viable for casual hookups.

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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Groovelord Neato posted:

you match, you start a conversation, they give you their number, you go out. i don't know how you aint getting matches i'm no prize and i get at least five a week.

I really don't know. You'd think with Ottawa having 1/5 people on Ashley Madison there'd be tons of matches, but nope.

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