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suck my woke dick: Oct 10, 2012; I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!

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A Buttery Pastry posted:

Anything is possible in France. If it's illegal now, they'll just make a new republic where it isn't.

The fourteenth Republic: the rule of law is me.

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Cat Mattress: Jul 14, 2012; by Cyrano4747

LochNessMonster posted:

From all the racist poo poo this thread has had to endure the last few pages, it's Sarkozy that's the most frightening.

Well yeah, as far as we know, Stockholm Syndrome isn't potentially the future head of state or government of a G20 country.

# ? Aug 21, 2016 19:38

suck my woke dick: Oct 10, 2012; I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!

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Nicolas Sarkozy more like Nikolas Sackgesicht.

# ? Aug 21, 2016 19:43

LemonDrizzle: Mar 28, 2012; neoliberal shithead

~~Renzi's frantically backpedalling on his statement that he'll resign if he loses his referendum~~ (slightly tidied up google translation because the full extent of my Italian is "Buongiorno! Vaffanculo! Spaghetti Bolognese!"): http://www.corriere.it/politica/16_agosto_21/renzi-si-vota-2018-comunque-vada-referendum-ed9a12e8-67c8-11e6-b2ea-2981f37a7723.shtml

quote:

Renzi: "The election will be held in 2018 no matter what happens in the Referendum"

"This referendum is very simple, because even my also became a kind of international debate on everything and I was wrong in saying that it is a referendum to Renzi."

e: actually, turns out I misunderstood (shows the peril of relying on Google translate, I suppose) - Renzi actually repeated his commitment to resign if he loses the referendum, and is just saying that his resignation will not trigger an early election: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-italy-vote-renzi-idUSKCN10W0SC?platform=hootsuite

quote:

Italians will vote in new general elections in 2018 no matter how a referendum on constitutional reform turns out later this year, Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi said on Sunday.
Renzi, who came to power two years ago by ousting grand coalition-leader Enrico Letta, has staked his political future on winning the referendum which he says is crucial to more stable and stronger government.
Asked in an interview before an audience at an outdoor festival in Marina di Pietrasanta in Tuscany whether elections would be held in 2018 whatever the outcome of the popular vote, Renzi said "yes".
But the 41-year-old indicated he would nonetheless step down from office if he lost the referendum.
"If the no [vote] wins I have already said what I will be doing," he said. Renzi has previously commented he would resign.
The referendum, the date of which has not yet been announced, seeks to do away with a parliamentary system in which the upper and lower houses have equal powers, effectively abolishing the Senate as an elected chamber and sharply reducing its ability to veto legislation.
Critics fear the proposed reform could give excessive powers to the government and its leader.
Renzi reiterated it had been a mistake to personalize a referendum in which he promised to resign if he failed to convince voters to support the need for constitutional change.
"I made a mistake and because of this the whole thing has become a debate about everything," he said.
No government has completed a full term in Italy since World War Two, making it difficult to reform an economy where debt-to-output is second only to Greece in the euro zone.

That last sentence is kind of amazing.

LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Aug 21, 2016

# ? Aug 21, 2016 22:09

V. Illych L.: Apr 11, 2008; ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

sarkozy was also incredibly, ridiculously corrupt

how in the world hollande has managed to turn him into a viable comeback figure i will never know

# ? Aug 22, 2016 13:58

V. Illych L.: Apr 11, 2008; ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

oh wait i know it's by being effective only when pushing reactionary bullshit into french society, right

who could've thought that this would have consequences

# ? Aug 22, 2016 13:59

DarkCrawler: Apr 6, 2009; by vyelkin

France has this weird addiction to conservative assholes. They go on a bender for few years, then they are all "Holy gently caress I can't believe I got that messed up, never again" and its all red flags and guillotines and new Republics. Are there any Bonapartes or Bourbons left? They might have a shot again.

# ? Aug 22, 2016 14:40

Cat Mattress: Jul 14, 2012; by Cyrano4747

DarkCrawler posted:

Are there any Bonapartes or Bourbons left? They might have a shot again.

They honestly couldn't be worse than any of the potential future candidates.

e: to answer the question, here's the list:
Bourbon, Legitimist: this guy
Bourbon, Orl�anist: this one (looks like a vampire IMO)
Bonaparte, option 1: that dude
Bonaparte, option 2: the youngest claimant

Cat Mattress fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Aug 22, 2016

# ? Aug 22, 2016 14:46

LemonDrizzle: Mar 28, 2012; neoliberal shithead

https://www.ft.com/content/3ed5f110-67b3-11e6-ae5b-a7cc5dd5a28c

quote:

French socialist Arnaud Montebourg has become the latest among Fran�ois Hollande�s former ministers to declare a rival presidential bid. Mr Montebourg accused the president on Sunday of betraying the �ideals of the left� and urged him to refrain from seeking a second term.
Speaking in Frangy-en-Bresse, a village in Burgundy, Mr Mont ebourg said: �I�m a candidate because it�s impossible for me to support the current president. I wish I could � For me, this presidential term cannot be defended.�
The 53-year-old former economy minister outlined his �project France�, a statist platform mixing tax breaks for the middle class, protectionist measures for small businesses, a possible nationalisation of a French bank, a vow to overhaul the EU and scrap the bloc�s deficit target of 3 per cent of gross domestic product to free France from �austerity�.
With less than eight months before presidential polls, France has switched into campaign mode. Nicolas Sarkozy, the former conservative president and head of the Republicans party, is expected to announce this week his intentions to run for the centre-right presidential primaries, held in late November.
On the left, Mr Montebourg�s candidacy follows that of Beno�t Hamon, a socialist MP and a former education minister, and Cecile Duflot, a former housing minister and green MP. All three stepped down from Mr Hollande�s government in 2014 in opposition to the president�s pro-business policy shift. Their candidacies expose the deep divisions on the left and highlight the difficulties Mr Hollande will have in winning a second term.

After much wrangling, the Socialist party decided to hold primaries in January. Mr Hollande�s supporters say the primaries will be an opportunity for the president to neutralise rivals and unify the left before the first round of the presidential polls in April.
Most opinion polls predict the socialist leader would not qualify for the second ballot, coming third behind Marine Le Pen, the far-right leader, and the centre-right nominee, whether Mr Sarkozy or Alain Jupp�, the former prime minister.
But some presidential hopefuls on the left have snubbed the primaries. Like Jean-Luc M�lenchon, the far-left politician, Ms Duflot said she would not participate in the primaries and would run as the Green candidate. Mr Hamon said he would take part in the primaries while Mr Montebourg has yet to decide.
At least one more rival is likely to further complicate Mr Hollande�s re-election. Emmanuel Macron, the 38-year-old economy minister, who has built his popularity on attacking tenets of the left such as the 35-hour working week or the wealth tax, is preparing to step down from the government next month, according to people with knowledge of the plan.

The bolded sentence is funny.

# ? Aug 22, 2016 15:56

R. Mute: Jul 27, 2011

Cat Mattress posted:

In the specific case of France, you've got to understand that there isn't any popular left-wing candidate -- there's no Bernie Sanders or Jeremy Corbyn, w

Jean-Luc M�lenchon will triumph, my friend.

# ? Aug 22, 2016 18:15

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

Cat Mattress posted:

Bonaparte, option 2: the youngest claimant

Hey, he even looks a little like Trudeau. He'll have to do!

R. Mute posted:

Jean-Luc M�lenchon will triumph, my friend.

Je suis melancholy.

# ? Aug 22, 2016 18:27

AceOfFlames: Oct 9, 2012

Serious question. I am Portuguese and am currently working in the Netherlands. I really don't want to go back home since I cannot possibly live making a third of what I am making right now (medical bills) and I work in biomed, which has very little employment in Portugal. Yet I am worried about the potential rise of fascism in Europe. What should I do?

# ? Aug 22, 2016 22:56

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IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.

AceOfFlames posted:

Serious question. I am Portuguese and am currently working in the Netherlands. I really don't want to go back home since I cannot possibly live making a third of what I am making right now (medical bills) and I work in biomed, which has very little employment in Portugal. Yet I am worried about the potential rise of fascism in Europe. What should I do?

You are lucky it's not Britain? It's not all bad in the Netherlands. I'm really not sure there's much that can be done, maybe agitate for people to be nicer back in Portugal at least.

# ? Aug 22, 2016 23:18

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

AceOfFlames posted:

Serious question. I am Portuguese and am currently working in the Netherlands. I really don't want to go back home since I cannot possibly live making a third of what I am making right now (medical bills) and I work in biomed, which has very little employment in Portugal. Yet I am worried about the potential rise of fascism in Europe. What should I do?

Learn how to make bombs? Join me and let's cook up an apoptosis activator vector that only targets white power people-

# ? Aug 23, 2016 00:25

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

AceOfFlames posted:

Serious question. I am Portuguese and am currently working in the Netherlands. I really don't want to go back home since I cannot possibly live making a third of what I am making right now (medical bills) and I work in biomed, which has very little employment in Portugal. Yet I am worried about the potential rise of fascism in Europe. What should I do?

There's plenty of openings for biomed/biotech jobs in the US, couldn't hurt to toss a resume over.

# ? Aug 23, 2016 00:40

Antifa Poltergeist: Jun 3, 2004; "We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"

There are openings in biomed in Portugal, on the research/academia side.get some networking in,get some eu grants,move to Portugal but keep some podunk residence in the netherlands,get some hella relocation Money and presto.Alentejo and Algarve is full of dutch, German and english people who do this, on various fields.healthcare here is only bad if youre poor.

# ? Aug 23, 2016 01:24

icantfindaname: Jul 1, 2008

LemonDrizzle posted:

That last sentence is kind of amazing.

Italy is a fascinating country in how hosed up its political economy is. Unfortunately nobody cares about Italy so you don't hear about it too much

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Aug 23, 2016

# ? Aug 23, 2016 05:36

icantfindaname: Jul 1, 2008

blowfish posted:

With Le Pen, Jr as President of France, Britain eternally facing imminent Brexit (any day now!) and Poland still being permanently PiSed, what functional democratic countries will be left in the EU?

Deutschland GmbH, if you count it as a democracy

AceOfFlames posted:

Serious question. I am Portuguese and am currently working in the Netherlands. I really don't want to go back home since I cannot possibly live making a third of what I am making right now (medical bills) and I work in biomed, which has very little employment in Portugal. Yet I am worried about the potential rise of fascism in Europe. What should I do?

if the Netherlands goes fascist Portugal's going to go fascist too. there's no getting out of it, unfortunately.

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Aug 23, 2016

# ? Aug 23, 2016 05:42

Wild Horses: Oct 31, 2012; There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.

Friendly Humour posted:

Learn how to make bombs? Join me and let's cook up an apoptosis activator vector that only targets white power people-

hi NSA/europol :nsa:

# ? Aug 23, 2016 06:07

Kurtofan: Feb 16, 2011; hon hon hon

AceOfFlames posted:

Serious question. I am Portuguese and am currently working in the Netherlands. I really don't want to go back home since I cannot possibly live making a third of what I am making right now (medical bills) and I work in biomed, which has very little employment in Portugal. Yet I am worried about the potential rise of fascism in Europe. What should I do?

Enjoy Bogland.

if they go fascist they're not irrelevant to do anything bad.

Cat Mattress posted:

They honestly couldn't be worse than any of the potential future candidates.

e: to answer the question, here's the list:
Bourbon, Legitimist: this guy
Bourbon, Orl�anist: this one (looks like a vampire IMO)
Bonaparte, option 1: that dude
Bonaparte, option 2: the youngest claimant

I'd vote for the Nosferatu, Ventrue sucks

# ? Aug 23, 2016 08:59

GABA ghoul: Oct 29, 2011

fishmech posted:

There's plenty of openings for biomed/biotech jobs in the US, couldn't hurt to toss a resume over.

Lol, how is that going to help? Trumpism is fascism, but on bathsalts

# ? Aug 23, 2016 10:20

Goa Tse-tung: Feb 11, 2008; ;3; Yams Fan

Kurtofan posted:

Enjoy Bogland.

if they go fascist they're not irrelevant to do anything bad.

I'd vote for the Nosferatu, Ventrue sucks

1. fucken lmao
2. true, true

# ? Aug 23, 2016 10:27

mobby_6kl: Aug 9, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

AceOfFlames posted:

Serious question. I am Portuguese and am currently working in the Netherlands. I really don't want to go back home since I cannot possibly live making a third of what I am making right now (medical bills) and I work in biomed, which has very little employment in Portugal. Yet I am worried about the potential rise of fascism in Europe. What should I do?

Move to Russia. No fascism there.

# ? Aug 23, 2016 10:32

Cat Mattress: Jul 14, 2012; by Cyrano4747

Bleach your hair blond and wear a crucifix necklace.

Seriously though, if your job pays well, you're going to be fine.

# ? Aug 23, 2016 10:56

GABA ghoul: Oct 29, 2011

Cat Mattress posted:

Bleach your hair blond and wear a crucifix necklace.

That's totally overkill. When they start coming for people, Portuguese are going to be almost last on their list. I would only start bothering with that stuff once they're done rounding up the Jews and Muslims.

# ? Aug 23, 2016 11:13

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

waitwhatno posted:

That's totally overkill. When they start coming for people, Portuguese are going to be almost last on their list. I would only start bothering with that stuff once they're done rounding up the Jews and Muslims.

Ah but have you not heard of al-Andalus? The Portuguese and Spanish are tainted by centuries of the Arab blood.

# ? Aug 23, 2016 11:18

GaussianCopula: Jun 5, 2011; Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.

Tesseraction posted:

Ah but have you not heard of al-Andalus? The Portuguese and Spanish are tainted by centuries of the Arab blood.

They atoned for their sins in the Reconquista.

# ? Aug 23, 2016 11:20

Antifa Poltergeist: Jun 3, 2004; "We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"

Cat Mattress posted:

Bleach your hair blond and wear a crucifix necklace.

Seriously though, if your job pays well, you're going to be fine.

Well the portuguese are highly catholic so the crucifix part is probably covered.incidently Portugal has one of the lowest ratings of vampire atacks in the world!coincidente?i think not!

in other portugal News the latest shitshow involved the sons of the iraqui embassador, that allegedly assaulted a portuguese teen.while the investigation was quietly under way our president ,maybe remebering his time as a TV comentator, opened his mouth about it and sudently everyone lost their loving minds.

# ? Aug 23, 2016 19:47

Redgrendel2001: Sep 1, 2006; you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

fishmech posted:

There's plenty of openings for biomed/biotech jobs in the US, couldn't hurt to toss a resume over.

Not that many anymore.

# ? Aug 23, 2016 20:33

orange sky: May 7, 2007

AceOfFlames posted:

Serious question. I am Portuguese and am currently working in the Netherlands. I really don't want to go back home since I cannot possibly live making a third of what I am making right now (medical bills) and I work in biomed, which has very little employment in Portugal. Yet I am worried about the potential rise of fascism in Europe. What should I do?

I want to go work there in IT, hook me up.

We'll go to the Alps and build a wooden house when the poo poo hits the fan.

# ? Aug 24, 2016 11:17

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

orange sky posted:

We'll go to the Alps and build a wooden house when the poo poo hits the fan.

They're called windmills.

# ? Aug 24, 2016 12:20

breadshaped: Apr 1, 2010; Soiled Meat

fishmech posted:

There's plenty of openings for biomed/biotech jobs in the US, couldn't hurt to toss a resume over.

Then you're in the problematic situation of living in the US with medical needs.

# ? Aug 24, 2016 13:03

Private Speech: Mar 30, 2011; I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.

Bedshaped posted:

Then you're in the problematic situation of living in the US with medical needs.

And more importantly you'd be an H1B employee. I'd rather stay in the Netherlands to be honest.

Speaking of I'm someone who's an EU migrant in Britain and just lost my job for a biotech company. Not sure what I'll do, employers right now are understandably leery of employing EU migrants in Britain. Am thinking about Singapore, my girlfriend lives in Malaysia so...

But then again it's not that easy to leave the place you've spent a better part of the last decade in, and I have very little work experience in practice.

# ? Aug 24, 2016 13:49

Doctor Malaver: May 23, 2007; Ce qui s'est pass� t'a rendu plus fort

What!? "I'm a Portugese in Netherlands afraid of fascism"

What are you precisely afraid of? Dutch fascist gangs attacking expats? Netherlands exiting EU to form a fascist state? Foreign fascists occupying Netherlands?

I'm surprised such a silly/paranoid concern received so many responses.

# ? Aug 24, 2016 14:13

Private Speech: Mar 30, 2011; I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.

Doctor Malaver posted:

What!? "I'm a Portugese in Netherlands afraid of fascism"

What are you precisely afraid of? Dutch fascist gangs attacking expats? Netherlands exiting EU to form a fascist state? Foreign fascists occupying Netherlands?

I'm surprised such a silly/paranoid concern received so many responses.

Ehh it's possible that he's faced some abuse recently. I have anyway, and the Netherlands can be fairly hostile to EU migrants as well. Even if not as much as the UK.

# ? Aug 24, 2016 14:52

GABA ghoul: Oct 29, 2011

Doctor Malaver posted:

What!? "I'm a Portugese in Netherlands afraid of fascism"

What are you precisely afraid of? Dutch fascist gangs attacking expats? Netherlands exiting EU to form a fascist state? Foreign fascists occupying Netherlands?

I'm surprised such a silly/paranoid concern received so many responses.

Fascism is on the rise in almost every western country. If you are planning to start a family and settle down, it's kinda an important consideration. Who the gently caress knows what the world is gonna look like in 20 years, I mean, people laughed at Trump only 4 years ago (and now nobody is laughing :hitler:

).

Wherever fascism takes hold, its gonna run everything into the ground and make everyone miserable.

# ? Aug 24, 2016 15:05

computer parts: Nov 18, 2010; PLEASE CLAP

waitwhatno posted:

I mean, people laughed at Trump only 4 years ago (and now nobody is laughing ).

Nah, dude's going to lose by a pretty large amount and his followers are all cowards so no glorious coup will come out of it.

# ? Aug 24, 2016 15:07

Doc Hawkins: Jun 15, 2010; Dashing? But I'm not even moving!

computer parts posted:

Nah, dude's going to lose by a pretty large amount

Sure, but so did Goldwater, and 20 years after that his ideas ran the Republican party.

# ? Aug 24, 2016 15:15

computer parts: Nov 18, 2010; PLEASE CLAP

Doc Hawkins posted:

Sure, but so did Goldwater, and 20 years after that his ideas ran the Republican party.

And Mondale lost pretty big too.

"Guys, Mitt Romney lost so obviously in 2032 we're going to have a Mormon President".

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double nine: Aug 8, 2013

So any italians in here? I hope you're all ok.

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