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i suppose it can be if you need specific features which i assume you do if you're compiling it
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i made a gui transcoder app for osx that used ffmpeg, but i didn't want the user to have to install homebrew or unix tools at all so i figured out how to make it so that ffmpeg looked for it's libraries inside of the app bundle. but also the app bundle could be located anywhere (not just the app folder), so it needed to be able to figure out where the dylibs were based on the location of the executable when it was run. i honestly know very little about compiling C things so there's probably a correct way to do this, but i had no idea what i was doing so I managed it with a bunch of weird tools that edited the binary after it was compiled. also this was the first thing i ever made that other people actually used so it was pretty rough
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compiling ffmpeg was not difficult, problem was fedora not recognising the x264 library of sorts, i.e. my laziness to diagnose the issue. the only thing i had problems compiling was the google vp9 stuff
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:i suppose it can be if you need specific features which i assume you do if you're compiling it  i didnt find it prepackaged in default fedora repos, hence compiling. its me, im the lazy goon reinventing bicycle
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Aug 24, 2016 17:10
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Might be labeled avconv in the repo
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kalstrams posted:
i also have a really hard time figuring out what repos i need to add in my fedora ecosystem
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:i also have a really hard time figuring out what repos i need to add in my fedora ecosystem in other words i wanted to janitor my computer, no kinkshaming
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well, i have a hard time figuring out what fedora repos are safe to add to my yum.repos.d. Googling for "FEDORA REPO $PACKAGE' usually yields tons of kind of not really helpful things and all of the repos don't look particularly trustworthy so I just don't use them. fortunately the internal RH repos are good and complete and managed by people who know what they're doing so i just use those
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:well, i have a hard time figuring out what fedora repos are safe to add to my yum.repos.d. Googling for "FEDORA REPO $PACKAGE' usually yields tons of kind of not really helpful things and all of the repos don't look particularly trustworthy so I just don't use them.
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Red Hat (and by extension Fedora) do not host packages that implement patent-encumbered audio/video codecs, because they do not have a royalty-free license to do so. RPMFusion is hosted somewhere in Europe and does host packages that seamlessly add in this missing functionality, but Red Hat's lawyers don't think that it is safe for RH to officially point people to RPMFusion either. Take it up with the MPEG LA, I guess. Or wait half a decade for the AV1 codec to get released and become widespread. Unfortunately the battle for next gen codec supremacy is gearing up to be fought between H.265 (Apple) and AV1 (literally every single other company that makes or relies on any sort of AV codecs whether in hardware or software) and, well, Apple is the only company that matters in that fight. (See also: Metal vs Vulkan)
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Aug 24, 2016 20:17
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kalstrams posted:i was too lazy to add them, not to find them. its one line tho
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graph posted:its one line tho
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maybe you should stop sucking so much, kalstrams i mean, why's the first thing you're thinking after not finding ffmpeg "oh well, i'll compile it myself", when.. it's like.. a dependency to a thousand libs or progs out there noone could ever have packaged such a lib, could they
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and im saying that coming from gentoo
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Aug 24, 2016 23:21
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lol why didnt you just install ffmpeg from the handbrake or w/e repo that has all the video codecs
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Tankakern posted:i mean, why's the first thing you're thinking after not finding ffmpeg "oh well, i'll compile it myself", when.. it's like.. a dependency to a thousand libs or progs out there Celexi posted:lol why didnt you just install ffmpeg from the handbrake or w/e repo that has all the video codecs
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Aug 24, 2016 23:39
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getting shamed for janitoring my linux in the lotd thread, smh
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like these ar e repos normally people add in fedora to use this kind of things, not sure why you thought it would be haram to add them.
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does there exists any fedora installation out there that does not have those rpmfusion repos installed
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Tankakern posted:does there exists any fedora installation out there that does not have those rpmfusion repos installed Celexi posted:like these ar e repos normally people add in fedora to use this kind of things, not sure why you thought it would be haram to add them.
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im surprised that there are people itt who cant grasp the notion of lazy person that likes cjing
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kalstrams posted:ive spent an hour trying to compile a loving media player because linux apparently cant do video because the year is 1976 Install the fusion repositories and install vlc? Edit* Didn't see that you had. Why didn't you do that to begin with?
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ratbert90 posted:Install the fusion repositories and install vlc?
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Aug 24, 2016 23:45
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idk i just installed the codecs, smp player and done.
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mplayer is buggy
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When I was at Red Hat, we tried time and time again to find a way to "point" users towards rpmfusion without breaking the rules of Fedora's guidelines. FESCO basically turned down every option to make standard codecs more accessible to the average user.
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isn't compiling a package like the opposite of lazy? adding a repo is v easy
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Endless Mike posted:isn't compiling a package like the opposite of lazy? adding a repo is v easy
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kalstrams posted:getting shamed for janitoring my linux in the lotd thread, smh what were your flags for compiling. 9/10 when i compile poo poo from source, i don't give it the proper flags and my LD_CONFIG fucks poo poo up or they want me to add some poo poo to it, idk. Some stuff is easy to compile from source but dependencies can be a bitch. kalstrams posted:yeah but i really like janitoring computers, i reinstal oses and fix random poo poo for fun. setting things up and/or getting them work is p rewarding make some chef community scripts. also i do as well and do it has become part of my job description.
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i wasn't even bothering with flags, just the usual configure, make, make install charade, primarily. the only thing that didn't compile compile properly was vp9 and i didnt feel that involved to follow up and see what was the problem. i got stuck a bit on some of the things not finding their way to compiling the ffmpeg in itself, and around the time i was looking into it not seeing freshly compiled x264, i noticed that it was loving hell o'clock  i'll check chef out, looks cool, thanks for the heads up
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kalstrams posted:i wasn't even bothering with flags, just the usual configure, make, make install charade, primarily. the only thing that didn't compile compile properly was vp9 and i didnt feel that involved to follow up and see what was the problem. i got stuck a bit on some of the things not finding their way to compiling the ffmpeg in itself, and around the time i was looking into it not seeing freshly compiled x264, i noticed that it was loving hell o'clock p much anything that is a dependency is gonna need some flags in my experience. stuff that depends on other poo poo doesn't really matter but dependencies always gently caress up since they don't know where your OS maintainer decided to put poo poo. Is it /usr/local/bin? or /usr/bin/? etc. chef is pretty great though. v nice to just automate stuff you do a lot
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Mr Dog posted:Take it up with the MPEG LA, I guess. Or wait half a decade for the AV1 codec to get released and become widespread. Unfortunately the battle for next gen codec supremacy is gearing up to be fought between H.265 (Apple) and AV1 (literally every single other company that makes or relies on any sort of AV codecs whether in hardware or software) and, well, Apple is the only company that matters in that fight. well, more like any video host that wants to distribute video will have to encode both AV1 and h.265 pirates will use av1, mac using pirates will have to install the road cone.
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Wheany posted:well, more like any video host that wants to distribute video will have to encode both AV1 and h.265 apple is part of the h265 patent pool, but they aren't using it since they would pay more in license fees than they would get from royalties the h265 license terms are so bad that the entire streaming industry ran screaming. it's only future is in piracy and things like broadcast where they can just jack up cable bills to compensate.
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So there will be some last-minute re-negotiation with terms that are extremely favourable to Apple and extremely lovely to everybody else. The media industry is not exactly run by rube negotiators.
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This is exactly like every single situation when a large private or government organization announces that they're "totally switching their desktops to Linux". What they mean is "Hey $MICROSOFT_SALESGUY, that quote is nice and all but do ya think you can knock a few points off it?" e: well, or that's what people used to do. you'll notice that it has become impossible to credibly pull this negotiating maneuver since 2010 when GNOME and Ubuntu hosed the GNOME chicken six ways from Sunday because it was dangerously close to actually becoming a reliable desktop product in a small but secure niche.
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kalstrams posted:getting shamed for janitoring my linux in the lotd thread, smh i think you misunderstand the thread this is the linux shaming thread
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eschaton posted:i think you misunderstand the thread 
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https://twitter.com/bbotezatu/status/768756952528723969
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lmfao
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