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Zore posted:There's only ever been like 5 ice types worth using, and mostly because they had something almost wholly unique. Jynx was surprisingly good in Gen I! So were Articuno and Lapras!
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Abomasnow has the niche of canceling your opponents weather with hail. Hail is so lovely you never have to worry about the enemy benefiting from it!  mandatory lesbian posted:the first dragon legend wasn't until gen 3, which is really weird but gamefreak gonna gamefreak i guess I was counting up to gen 4 as old gens in that post. I was thinking they didn't start adding mediocre dragons until gen 4 but I completely forgot that Altaria exists and is inexplicably a dragon. So I guess it has the dubious honor of being the first crummy dragon. Gen 2 didn't even add a dragon type. EDIT: Wait no it added Kingdra, forgot him too. Kingdra is good though, despite not being a stat freak. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Aug 25, 2016 |
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Internet Kraken posted:Gen 2 didn't even add a dragon type. Kingdra. 
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Internet Kraken posted:I was counting up to gen 4 as old gens in that post. I was thinking they didn't start adding mediocre dragons until gen 4 but I completely forgot that Altaria exists and is inexplicably a dragon. So I guess it has the dubious honor of being the first crummy dragon. Well there's Kingdra, who was okay. But yeah, Dragon was pretty much just a stronger version of the Normal type back in the GB days.
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garchomp can fly. flygon can fly. golurk can fly. if you don't know why a pokemon is ground type it's because they can fly
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Somebody still has yet to explain to me Dragon Rage
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Calaveron posted:Somebody still has yet to explain to me Dragon Rage it does 40 damage
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But why is it the only dragon type move in that generation and why does it only do one effectively making dragons even bigger powerhouses since ice pokemon loving suck
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cheetah7071 posted:Where's my non-mega non-legendary fire/dragon who doesn't look like the world's spikiest turtle?
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Aug 25, 2016 23:40
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Well megas and legendaries don't count and the upcoming fire/dragon looks dumb so I thought it was the exact right amount of specific personally
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oddium posted:garchomp can fly. flygon can fly. golurk can fly. if you don't know why a pokemon is ground type it's because they can fly this is also the reason they are all dragon types
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I just got X after a long hiatus and then went and got an Arceus code. I feel like I'm missing out on a distribution or two. I saw something about a Mew from a newsletter back in June. Is there anything like that going on now?
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Starsnostars posted:Kyurem White is also usable. all three kyurems are good
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Calaveron posted:But why is it the only dragon type move in that generation and why does it only do one effectively making dragons even bigger powerhouses since ice pokemon loving suck lapras, cloyster, and jynx were good and blizzard was amazing and dragonite had no stab
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Dr. Fetus posted:Ice type Pokemon were never really Dragon slayers though. Dragons usually had a fairly diverse movepool that could easily take down most of them. Dragon types feared Ice type moves since Pokemon that couldn't get taken down by them so easily could carry them. Ice didn't even resist Dragon type moves. hi mamoswine here, and i've killed more dragons than the protagonist of skyrim also sub/roost/dragon tail/iron head kyurem-B was one of my favorite sets when that was legal in UU Zoness fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Aug 26, 2016 |
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Dexie posted:Jynx was surprisingly good in Gen I! So were Articuno and Lapras! Oh man, Lapras kicked ASSpras in gen 1 and 2! She was my designated dragon slayer and her ice beams of power served me well.
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Calaveron posted:But why is it the only dragon type move in that generation and why does it only do one effectively making dragons even bigger powerhouses since ice pokemon loving suck you don't need ice type pokemon to use blizzard, tauros and starmie were two of the best blizzard users in gen 1
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Starmie is one of the best at anything in every generation.
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Dexie posted:Jynx was surprisingly good in Gen I! So were Articuno and Lapras! jynx had an ubers set in gen 5, because gen 5 ubers was a format where rain was essentially permanent, and she could basically wall a kyogre and then lovely kiss whatever switches in
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Ruggington posted:lapras, cloyster, and jynx were good and blizzard was amazing but dragonite could always learn wing attack and fly??????
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Zoness posted:jynx had an ubers set in gen 5, because gen 5 ubers was a format where rain was essentially permanent, and she could basically wall a kyogre and then lovely kiss whatever switches in For some reason this fills me with joy to hear.
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Zore posted:but dragonite could always learn wing attack and fly?????? Are you sure about that? This is Gen 1 we're talking about.
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Crosspeice posted:Are you sure about that? This is Gen 1 we're talking about. Lmao
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Crosspeice posted:Are you sure about that? This is Gen 1 we're talking about. God drat, Gen 1 sucked.
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Crosspeice posted:Are you sure about that? This is Gen 1 we're talking about. Goddammit. I almost checked too. Gen 1 was dire
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sharrrk posted:this is also the reason they are all dragon types Golurk just needs to muster the willpower to call his beast expansion mech, you just wait. Zore posted:Goddammit. I almost checked too. It very much was. We are very, very lucky the core idea shined through enough to keep us hooked to that broken mess long enough for them to fix some of it.
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Golurk and Metagross need to combine like the megazord and the dragonzord
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golurk is going to dna digivolve with aegislash
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Geostomp posted:Golurk just needs to muster the willpower to call his beast expansion mech, you just wait. jesus, it's hard, now, playing Pokemon games with physical/special moves tied to typing, limited use TMs, and tons of Pokemon not learning any good STAB until level 60 or so, or never. at least HGSS gives out infinite Headbutt, and there's no reason not to teach it to everything that could possibly learn it.
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Dexie posted:For some reason this fills me with joy to hear. There's almost always a few pokemon who are surprisingly effective in ubers because they are so anti-meta for the metagame at the time. Bronzong seems to be one of the big examples this time around.
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Yeah but gently caress Bronzong. Bane of my existence during Gen IV.
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Dexie posted:Yeah but gently caress Bronzong. Bane of my existence during Gen IV. I feel like Bronzong is probably the pokemon hardest hit by the loss of Dark/Ghost resistance by Steel. RIP the weird gimmicky Heatproof Bronzong I used to troll with in Gen IV.
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dude789 posted:There's almost always a few pokemon who are surprisingly effective in ubers because they are so anti-meta for the metagame at the time. Bronzong seems to be one of the big examples this time around. I remember when Shedinja used to be a classic for walling Kyogre and several other mons in that tier.
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I believe Kyogre still doesn't carry anything to hit Shedinja, but with Groudon running rampant you really don't see it much anymore. But man, it was a great way to stop some rain teams cold.
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The best pokemon is your favorite pokemon
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Dexie posted:Yeah but gently caress Bronzong. Bane of my existence during Gen IV. If you like Alomomola, he's surprisingly high up in the current ubers viability as well.
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Zore posted:I feel like Bronzong is probably the pokemon hardest hit by the loss of Dark/Ghost resistance by Steel. It's a crime that Heatproof didnt grant a fire immunity
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Calaveron posted:The best pokemon is your favorite pokemon im glad you agree that garbodor is the best pokemon
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I forget, was Garbodor and Trubbish exclusive to the Jersey part of the Unova map?
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I don't care for Garbador's design but Trubbish looks great.
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