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UberJumper posted:Angels of Caliban was kind of neat if you like Dark Angels. Is written by Gav Thorpe, right? That's a bad signal, and the previous dark angels books were pretty bad as well. The last HH novel I read was Vengeful Spirit, since then, the following "main plot" books have been published: Damnation of Pythos by David Annandale, the plot summary doesn't seem compelling or relevant enough to pick it up. Deathfire by Nick Kyme, a salamander book, but it's Nick Kyme, that alone makes me wanna pass on this. Pharos by Guy Halley, continuation of the Imperium Secundus storyline after Unremembered Empire, with Kurze and nightlords as main antagonists. The Path of Heaven by Chris Wright, continuation of Scars, I liked Chris Wright previous books, so probably going to get this for sure. Praetorian of Dorn by John French, first book focusing on the Imperial Fists. Haven't read much from him, but the Ahriman books were decent enough, so probably going to give it a try. Anyone can recommend or comment on this?
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Halfway through False God and I'm pretty well invested. I know enough about the Heresy to recognize the names of some daemon princes and some various other Chaos dudes so I have a good idea of where lines get drawn across the cast, but I don't know the finer points of what happens, so I keep waiting for poo poo to Go Down. I assume the next book is the Istvaan "incident" that kicks stuff off proper?
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Angry Lobster posted:The Path of Heaven by Chris Wright, continuation of Scars, I liked Chris Wright previous books, so probably going to get this for sure. Totally digging this one; Chris has a lot of solid and interesting characterization of not only the Scars, but of the Death Guard and Emperor's Children in a time where a lot of the legion is still on the fence about the whole "fill yourself with daemons to get stronger!" thing that their peers seem to be so into, despite knowing that it'll get around to everyone in their legion, in time. Plus some pretty interesting subplots and conjecture regarding the Navigator houses, and how they might feel about the Golden Throne and what it might mean for the future of their houses. Despite all the different perspectives and plots going on, it's a very coherent and engaging read throughout. Really though, my favorite aspect is how much the author considers the character's thoughts and perspectives about all the crazy stuff going on, not just lots of battle scenes. He's really good when it comes to that, and that's my literary bread & butter.
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Angry Lobster posted:Is written by Gav Thorpe, right? That's a bad signal, and the previous dark angels books were pretty bad as well. Don't touch Damnation of Pythos, it has a Novella of plot dragged out to Novel length and what story there is, is an irrelevant sideplot. Deathfire. It's Kyme, so it's not great. Has a few passable moments. Totally worth skipping and reading the summary on Lexicanum, in the unlikely event you don't immediately guess the resolution of the plot when you read the blurb on the back. Pharos. Pretty decent. Some good action and Primarch stuff. The Path of Heaven. Didn't like it as much as One Legged Cat. But then I didn't really like Scars. Wrights Heresy stuff just doesn't jell for me, much as I love his Space Wolf novels. You may really like it  . It's certainally not bad.Praetorian of Dorn. Holy poo poo. Are they actually advancing the plot? We're finally moving on Terra after the greatest literary cock-tease of all time. Haven't read it yet, it'll have to wait a few weeks to move up my read pile.
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ElPedro posted:At least it seems like the Horus Heresy is entering or nearing earth. http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/hh-praetorian-of-dorn-ebook.html I REPEAT: THEY ARE JUST loving WITH US NOW. Games Workshop posted:At last, Rogal Dorn and the VII Legion take centre stage in a Horus Heresy novel! And it's a doozy, as the assault on the Solar System begins. Or does it?
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how many of the space marine battle books are good? other then armageddon duo? I read the iron warriors one where they are on helghan with the not helghast and the orks show up and its dumb but amusing and grimdark. i tried reading the genestealers one but it sucked.
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Iron Snakes is a pretty good book by Abnett and it has a big battle with Orkz.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I read the iron warriors one where they are on helghan with the not helghast and the orks show up and its dumb but amusing and grimdark. Siege of Castellax? That's the worst BL book I've ever attempted to read. I got a hundred pages in, realized it was too bad for me to even laugh at, and left it on a table at my game club. It got circled around my group that way and nobody's picked it up since. Rynn's World is a fun action book that reads like a summer blockbuster, although it needed another pass from an editor since there's a lot of typos and grammatical errors. It's a fun action romp though. I've also heard Battle of the Fang is good.
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Are there any rogue Trader Books? I'd like something where Xenos show up and aren't murdering or getting murdered by the thousands.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:how many of the space marine battle books are good? other then armageddon duo? The ones by Chris Wraight are pretty good. He's not ABD or Abnett but the ones I read from him(Wrath of Iron, Battle of the Fang) were good solid bolterporn.
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mango sentinel posted:Are there any rogue Trader Books? I'd like something where Xenos show up and aren't murdering or getting murdered by the thousands. Eye of terror or eye of the storm or whatever is good
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mango sentinel posted:Halfway through False God and I'm pretty well invested. I know enough about the Heresy to recognize the names of some daemon princes and some various other Chaos dudes so I have a good idea of where lines get drawn across the cast, but I don't know the finer points of what happens, so I keep waiting for poo poo to Go Down. I assume the next book is the Istvaan "incident" that kicks stuff off proper? Yeah, the drop site massacre isn't much further in the book. Honestly from what I remember it is alright, and I think Fulgrim is the book that covers it most heavily. I'll say Abnett makes the Betrayal at Calth look much more epic in scope than they manage for the dropsite massacre. mango sentinel posted:Are there any rogue Trader Books? I'd like something where Xenos show up and aren't murdering or getting murdered by the thousands. Sadly none that I know that of.
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It's amazing how much of a drop in quality those first three Heresy books go through. By the end of the third one, previously complex characters might as well be twirling their moustaches and going "mwahaha"
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TBF that's because worshipping Chaos is for dummies. Getting mad at Emps, sure. Convincing yourself that Universal Constants care about you personally, foolish.
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mango sentinel posted:Are there any rogue Trader Books? I'd like something where Xenos show up and aren't murdering or getting murdered by the thousands. There are a couple of out of print books that I remember. Andy Hoare's Rogue Star and Star of Damocles in this case that are about Rogue Traders.
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Peztopiary posted:TBF that's because worshipping Chaos is for dummies. Getting mad at Emps, sure. Convincing yourself that Universal Constants care about you personally, foolish. I think it's less that some ultimate power cares about you (religion in general) but that the speed in which the Legions just gave themselves over wholeheartedly was pretty poorly done. Most of the time, it went like "Hey dudes, let's do a 180 on everything, kill our buds, and allow monsters to possess us - sound cool?" There as very little planning or conspiracy involved (at least as far as we were shown) and Marines turned on each other at the drop of a hat. I understand that the Traitor Legions were implied to have certain things that contributed towards their fall, but it was still pretty heavy-handed.
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berzerkmonkey posted:I think it's less that some ultimate power cares about you (religion in general) but that the speed in which the Legions just gave themselves over wholeheartedly was pretty poorly done. Most of the time, it went like "Hey dudes, let's do a 180 on everything, kill our buds, and allow monsters to possess us - sound cool?" There as very little planning or conspiracy involved (at least as far as we were shown) and Marines turned on each other at the drop of a hat. I understand that the Traitor Legions were implied to have certain things that contributed towards their fall, but it was still pretty heavy-handed. In the first trilogy it's poorly done, yeah, they try to fix that in other books written by better authors, like in The First Heretic or Betrayer, were they show how the Heresy was premeditated and took decades to plan the whole thing, but not by Horus and his legion. Or maybe that's just an ADB thing. On other news, I'm halfway there with Praetorians of Dorn, it's not bad but not awesome either, if you liked Legion you'll probably like it because the Alpha legion has as much screen time as the Imperial Fists. Basically, they casually stroll through the Solar System doing their thing covert ops inside covert ops and being sneaky assholes in general.
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Has anyone read the new Ork-books? Yesterday I went to a local book shop and was surprised to see that there were already three small books in a series about Orks assaulting the Imperium with giant death stars. The series seems to be mostly about space warfare if I can trust what is written on the back (the second book seems to revolve solely around a giant space battle, for example). If it weren't for the insane price (~ €17), I would have normally immediately grabbed them, but for this kind of money I thought I'd ask first what others think about them.
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They start well, then get a tad dull, got good again and then got a bit silly with Hunt for Vulkan. Not read the latest Overall its been a nice distraction whilst waiting for HH to get going again
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Noticed the OP hasn't been updated in two years, have we really gone that long without a decent book other than ADBs Black Legion series?
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Almost done with Night Lords and just wanted to pop in to say that Talos' plan to use the astropaths from Tsagualsa/Darcharna to take out an entire network of worlds was  as heck. Am I going to find out what happened to the Atramentar before the end of this third book?
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bango skank posted:Almost done with Night Lords and just wanted to pop in to say that Talos' plan to use the astropaths from Tsagualsa/Darcharna to take out an entire network of worlds was They appear in the epilogue but no explanation is really given for what they've been up to.
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Angry Lobster posted:In the first trilogy it's poorly done, yeah, they try to fix that in other books written by better authors, like in The First Heretic or Betrayer, were they show how the Heresy was premeditated and took decades to plan the whole thing, but not by Horus and his legion. Or maybe that's just an ADB thing. I'm one of those guys who really loved Legion so I might actually like this one! I'm interested in picking it up anywho. Libluini posted:Has anyone read the new Ork-books? You talking about The Beast Arises? I listened to the audiobook of the first one and was really, really bored by it. I thought the characters were really weak and it was kind of a boring retread of Starship Troopers until poo poo goes south and the Ork death star shows up. There's also a Marine named Stab.
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Uroboros posted:Noticed the OP hasn't been updated in two years, have we really gone that long without a decent book other than ADBs Black Legion series? Sounds about right.
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Im reading the ork books for the assassin subplots
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SRM posted:You talking about The Beast Arises? I listened to the audiobook of the first one and was really, really bored by it. I thought the characters were really weak and it was kind of a boring retread of Starship Troopers until poo poo goes south and the Ork death star shows up. There's also a Marine named Stab. Yeah, that was it. I just looked it up and it's apparently "the greatest literary event ever" according to the Black Library. 
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SRM posted:I'm one of those guys who really loved Legion so I might actually like this one! I'm interested in picking it up anywho. I don't get how you could dislike Legion. The reveal at the end was pretty big as far as canon changes go...
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Uroboros posted:I don't get how you could dislike Legion. The reveal at the end was pretty big as far as canon changes go...
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SRM posted:I think people really wanted a book more about Space Marines and less about spies and cartoonishly complex webs of lies and misdirection. Some folks also don't like Grammaticus. Went in expecting one thing, got something completely different, Alpha Legion af, imo
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Libluini posted:Has anyone read the new Ork-books? As Skarsnik stated, they are alright. SRM is correct in that the first book is godawful slow and kind of dumb (which is unfortunate, since it is an Abnett book.) The subsequent books pick up a bit though, and by book five, is kind of more about the political machinations between the High Lords of Terra, Inquisition and Officio Assassinorium. It looks like the Deathwatch is introduced in the later books, so that may introduce an interesting storyline. So far, I'd recommend it if you want a bit of a change from the HH deluge.
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berzerkmonkey posted:As Skarsnik stated, they are alright. SRM is correct in that the first book is godawful slow and kind of dumb (which is unfortunate, since it is an Abnett book.) The subsequent books pick up a bit though, and by book five, is kind of more about the political machinations between the High Lords of Terra, Inquisition and Officio Assassinorium. It looks like the Deathwatch is introduced in the later books, so that may introduce an interesting storyline. OK, this sounds interesting, but also confusing: From reading the back of the books 2-4 (which I thought were 1-3 before looking the series up), it seemed like Terra itself is under threat by book 4 so if Terra survives the attack by a giant Ork death star, what exactly is the threat afterwards? Is the rest of the series about hunting down the fleeing Orks, or what?
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Libluini posted:OK, this sounds interesting, but also confusing: From reading the back of the books 2-4 (which I thought were 1-3 before looking the series up), it seemed like Terra itself is under threat by book 4 so if Terra survives the attack by a giant Ork death star, what exactly is the threat afterwards? Is the rest of the series about hunting down the fleeing Orks, or what? What Skarsnik said. As part of that, the Orks seem to be evolving to the point where they are using tactics and even have developed the ability to negotiate, so the Ad Mech/Magos Biologis are trying to figure this one out, as well as trying to steal Ork tech to use for themselves (yes, really.)
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The Iron Rose posted:I've read the first five odd books of the beast arises and they're all, speaking generously, incredibly super loving dumb. That's basically every BL book though? We're not reading actual literature here
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Skarsnik posted:That's basically every BL book though? We're not reading actual literature here most BL books are merely dumb. incredibly super loving dumb is some next level poo poo. like say what you will about Horus Heresy bolter porn or the endless novels about inquisitors, but they're not nearly as stupid as an Ork death star that kills the armies of terra by crushing millions of people between its eyebrows, that are the size of mountain ranges. and despite the fact that that sounds absolutely amazing, it's just terrible and stupid and gross.
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The first bit of The Lord Inquisitor fanfilm has finally been released. Thought you guys might like this. Because holy poo poo, gothic cyberpunk Holy Terra looks amazing. The vocal audio is a bit amateurish, but the design and aesthetic choices are incredible for a one man project. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Aug 29, 2016 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:The first bit of The Lord Inquisitor fanfilm has finally been released. It's not a one man project, but it's a very small team with zero budget making it. Unfortunately Aaron Dembski Bowden never got super involved, but the writer of the current screenplay is a goon and he posted in the 40k thread the other day about it. Enentol posted:Please don't worry too much! - Erasmus has a solid story framework that's actually feasible within our time, budget (ha), and technical limitations. That being said the film still looks loving stunning, even if a few bits aren't as polished as others. Beats the Ultramarines movie by a mile, that's for sure.
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