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Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

IRQ posted:

Yeah! But... what if the main character is a dog!

There's no rule that says a dog can't solve crimes!

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EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



A cop dog, you say?

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Justice for Barb

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

EL BROMANCE posted:

A cop dog, you say?

The dog's a loving ghost!

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax
I remember at one point the initial pitch document for LOST was leaked and most of it was dedicated to emphasizing the fact that, due to the flashback format, it was both a cop show and a hospital show.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Guy Mann posted:

I remember at one point the initial pitch document for LOST was leaked and most of it was dedicated to emphasizing the fact that, due to the flashback format, it was both a cop show and a hospital show.


Yet another reason to hate that goddamned show.

:lost:

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


It makes sense why Networks would like cop and hospital shows seeing as they both involve mysteries that can then be wrapped up in neat little packages in 40 odd minutes. It just sucks that it's all they care about.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001




When is this going to crossover with Lucifer?

FetusSlapper
Jan 6, 2005

by exmarx
I just finished Gilmore Girls. Its alot like the O.C., minus most of the drama, plus most of the painted on outfits. If Lane Kim was one of my friends, I'd have called child protective services. Babette ate oatmeal.

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

muscles like this? posted:

It makes sense why Networks would like cop and hospital shows seeing as they both involve mysteries that can then be wrapped up in neat little packages in 40 odd minutes. It just sucks that it's all they care about.

It's not all they care about. There are also lawyer shows.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Corner Gas is terrible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veu-Cm7aHMw

Spatula City
Oct 21, 2010

LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING

Wandle Cax posted:

It's not all they care about. There are also lawyer shows.

lawyer shows are way better than doctor and cop shows though, because they can usually do at least one of three things:
1. "RIPPED FROM THE HEADLINES"
2. the protagonists, being lawyers, are kinda lovely people
3. Deep systematic cynicism

The Good Wife had all three!

Hopefully Hayley Atwell's new lawyer show is good, 'cause I'm hurting for a good legal show now that The Good Wife is over.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
TV studios are basically porn parody producers who replace sex with cops.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Spatula City posted:

lawyer shows are way better than doctor and cop shows though, because they can usually do at least one of three things:
1. "RIPPED FROM THE HEADLINES"
2. the protagonists, being lawyers, are kinda lovely people
3. Deep systematic cynicism

The Good Wife had all three!

Hopefully Hayley Atwell's new lawyer show is good, 'cause I'm hurting for a good legal show now that The Good Wife is over.

Couldn't all three of those also apply to cop shows?

I'm pretty sure all three have, even.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax
I like that Nip/Tuck dedicated an entire season to making fun of how unrealistic TV doctor shows are because the show itself is one of the most batshit shows about medicine ever made and them throwing stones when they had had entire seasons about black market organ thieves and cosmetic surgery-themed serial killers was almost lethal levels of :irony:

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll

Spatula City posted:

Hopefully Hayley Atwell's new lawyer show is good, 'cause I'm hurting for a good legal show now that The Good Wife is over.

I wouldn't put my hopes up.


CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

Stranger Things is ok.

But I don't get the weird Barb love at all. :shrug:

This explains it 100%:

Toxxupation posted:

The Stranger Things thread in TVIV put it most succinctly by noting how the Barb fandom is people obsessing over a socially awkward loser with zero self-esteem turning their lack of personality into a personality via being a humorless wet blanket, as a paper-thin reflection of their own teenage years.

I don't wanna have to have premarital sex or drink! Only total losers do that, it has nothing to do with my own inability to connect with others at all! I'm above it all. I'm not interested in that stuff, it's lame and I'm super mature.

less laughter fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Sep 1, 2016

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

Hey Muscles can you add in your sticky that people who make new threads should post them in my index thread so I can add them to the master list.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Zaggitz posted:

The dog's a loving ghost!

His best friend is a talking pie.

Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

I will confess,
I love this cultured hell that tests my youth.



Guy Mann posted:

I like that Nip/Tuck dedicated an entire season to making fun of how unrealistic TV doctor shows are because the show itself is one of the most batshit shows about medicine ever made and them throwing stones when they had had entire seasons about black market organ thieves and cosmetic surgery-themed serial killers was almost lethal levels of :irony:

The Carver arc is when I was completely loving done with Ryan Murphy and his shows. Christ, that was one of the most terrible seasons of scripted drama in history.

smg77
Apr 27, 2007

Vanderdeath posted:

The Carver arc is when I was completely loving done with Ryan Murphy and his shows. Christ, that was one of the most terrible seasons of scripted drama in history.

You're not wrong but considering more recent crimes against television committed by Ryan Murphy it seems quaint that Nip/Tuck was your breaking point.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


I watched the first episode of The Get Down and I really enjoyed it.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Yeah it's fantastic. Gonna give the second one a try later. Planning on spreading out the episodes more with this one as people who have binged it seem to have enjoyed it less on the whole.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Escobarbarian posted:

Yeah it's fantastic. Gonna give the second one a try later. Planning on spreading out the episodes more with this one as people who have binged it seem to have enjoyed it less on the whole.

As someone who binged I respectfully disagree with that notion. :colbert:

Show is fantastic.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


Idran posted:

Couldn't all three of those also apply to cop shows?

I'm pretty sure all three have, even.

Yeah, Law & Order SVU does it regularly, although in that case the shittiness of the protagonists is often glorified.

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib
Just started watching The West Wing for the first time this week. I'm about halfway through season 1 and I'm loving it so far. I did not expect it to be so comedic to me. Thought it was a way more serious toned show.

Sam (Rob Lowe) and Josh (Bradley Whitford) are easily my favorites so far. Charlie (Dulé Hill) is great because I was a huge fan of Psych.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

They tone down the comedy as the show goes on. By season 3 everyone is miserable.

cool kids inc.
May 27, 2005

I swallowed a bug


This is fine as long as they get the cast of Merlin to fill all the parts, with the Merlin guy as the cranky but well meaning Chief of Police (or Chief Inspector or whatever the UK equivalent is). And they maintain the Merlin is magic and Arthur doesn't know ruse.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Escobarbarian posted:

Yeah it's fantastic. Gonna give the second one a try later. Planning on spreading out the episodes more with this one as people who have binged it seem to have enjoyed it less on the whole.

You can't help but binge it towards the end. It has a really good flow by then.

Good god if there was ever a show that TVIV needed to make gifs for...

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Makes me happy to hear continued good things.

Sepinwall gave a really positive review to the first few episodes of Donglover's Atlanta. Sounds like it's gonna be everything I wanted from it. Might make a thread over the weekend

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Digital Jedi posted:

Just started watching The West Wing for the first time this week. I'm about halfway through season 1 and I'm loving it so far. I did not expect it to be so comedic to me. Thought it was a way more serious toned show.

It helps if you consider that The American President was basically Aaron Sorkin's pilot for The West Wing. But then as time went by and Sorkin became more and more burned out due to his insistence on writing every script, things started to get really heavy-handed. It rebounds quite a bit in the final season, though.

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Timby posted:

It helps if you consider that The American President was basically Aaron Sorkin's pilot for The West Wing. But then as time went by and Sorkin became more and more burned out due to his insistence on writing every script, things started to get really heavy-handed. It rebounds quite a bit in the final season, though.

Also Sorkin became a coked out liability and had to step away from the show, which dropped in quality after.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

He wrote the second season of Sports Night (22 episodes) and the first season of West Wing (22 episodes) at the same time.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
What are some good/crazy seasons of Survivor? They're all on Hulu (well, the last like 20 seasons are). I just watched the most recent season (second chances or whatever) but haven't watched hardly any of the seasons between like season 3 and the last one.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

precision posted:

What are some good/crazy seasons of Survivor? They're all on Hulu (well, the last like 20 seasons are). I just watched the most recent season (second chances or whatever) but haven't watched hardly any of the seasons between like season 3 and the last one.

Second Chances is one of the two best seasons of Survivor and the best from a strategy perspective. The other best season is Micronesia because it's absolutely loving hilarious and also for being the only season of the Black Widow Natalie Bolton. Besides that I'd also recommend:

S4: Marquesas - the first appearance of Boston Rob and one of the most defining moments in Survivor strategy
S6: Amazon - a new type of player shows up and they make the game really exciting
S7: Pearl Islands - Jonny Fairplay's season
S9: Vanuatu - massively underrated
S10: Palau - includes the most pathetic tribe in Survivor history
S12: Exile Island - for Shane and his alliance of people he completely despises
S13: Cook Islands - the racial divide gimmick is bad but it goes soon and fun follows
S15: China - one of the best locations they've visited and again lots of comedy
S17: Gabon - if you want to watch a bunch of idiots play the game really badly but very entertainingly
S18: Tocantins - holy poo poo you need to see Coach in all his glory
S20: Heroes vs Villains - a beautiful masterclass in how not to play Survivor
S25: Philippines - great mixture of returners and newbies
S27: Blood vs Water - the loved one connections make for a really interesting game
S28: Cagayan - full of funny moments, insane paranoia and Chaos Kass
S29: Blood vs Water II - generally rated low but the post-merge is great and the winner makes some really interesting moves late-game

Honestly if you have the time I'd say just watch them all but definitely watch these ones. Preferably in order cause then you see how the game evolves.

(I've tried to keep the justifications as spoilerless as possible)

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005

Vanderdeath posted:

The Carver arc is when I was completely loving done with Ryan Murphy and his shows. Christ, that was one of the most terrible seasons of scripted drama in history.

You got off light - I stuck around and watched the NEXT season w/ Peter Dinklidge. The season was even more dark and miserable & every time Dinkledge's character showed up on screen I'd drink until the strength to throw my bottle would leave my body.

Imagine my outrage when Dinkledge showed up years later on Game of Thrones (and my shock that I could tolerate the actor).

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Rarity posted:

Second Chances is one of the two best seasons of Survivor and the best from a strategy perspective. The other best season is Micronesia because it's absolutely loving hilarious and also for being the only season of the Black Widow Natalie Bolton. Besides that I'd also recommend:

S4: Marquesas - the first appearance of Boston Rob and one of the most defining moments in Survivor strategy

I believe this is the last season I watched all the way through until Second Chances. That list is exactly what I was looking for though, I want as much schadenfreude as possible. :)

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

precision posted:

I believe this is the last season I watched all the way through until Second Chances. That list is exactly what I was looking for though, I want as much schadenfreude as possible. :)

Please keep us (or at least me) updated with your thoughts, seeing people react to classic Survivor moments is amazing

(Micronesia is S16 by the way)

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
The commercials for mtv's "Mary + Jane" makes it look like the flea market version of Broad City.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Gaunab posted:

The commercials for mtv's "Mary + Jane" makes it look like the flea market version of Broad City.

Wow, that's some poverty there.

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mancalamania
Oct 23, 2008

precision posted:

I believe this is the last season I watched all the way through until Second Chances. That list is exactly what I was looking for though, I want as much schadenfreude as possible. :)

I agree with most of the list, but I would add 19 if you don't mind some uneven editing since it makes for an exciting prologue to 20. 32, the most recent season, is also pretty great. Also, 16 (Micronesia) was mentioned at the start of that post but not on the numerical order list, make sure you don't forget that one.

Also, of that list, 4 is probably the slowest so might be a bad place to start coming right off of 31. 6 or 7 might be more exciting for you.

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