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Leroy Dennui
Aug 9, 2014

Gina McCarthy made us gay,
but we would not have met
had Biden not dropped his cones
:gaysper::frogbon:

Facebook Aunt posted:

Having thought about it for a few hours, I think those introduction cards are fine. An unambiguous signal that doesn't require an instant response. Nobody is pinned down in an awkward social situation. Nobody has to think of a graceful way to accept rejection.

If you get a card and you aren't interested, you just toss it and that's the end of it.
If you are intrested, you go ahead and make the call with some assurance the other party is interested in you as well.


I like you do you like me?
_ YES
_ NO

If I was an old-timey lady, I would definitely consult the spooning business guy. The other old ones are pathetic while the new ones are creepy and reek of social ineptitude.

Leroy Dennui fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Sep 3, 2016

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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Facebook Aunt posted:

I like you do you like me?
_ YES
_ NO

How can you not include _ MAYBE here?

Gotta hedge them bets.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.
What happens if that card gets checkboxed? :raise:

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
I know plenty of girls those stupid cards would work on, given a social situation where asking them out would work too.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
They are irregular but I don't think they're a bad idea per se. However, the probably not going to work on the kind of woman that these are going to end up being given to

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
How hard is it to just go up to a girl and say "Are you interested in a romantic relationship with me?"

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Pick posted:

They are irregular but I don't think they're a bad idea per se. However, the probably not going to work on the kind of woman that these are going to end up being given to

How do you mean? Tbh, I picture then being given out like confetti.


Guy Goodbody posted:

How hard is it to just go up to a girl and say "Are you interested in a romantic relationship with me?"

Saying it like that is just as spergy

Ante Christ
May 8, 2007

I've known only one person who handed these out. It was at a party, and this cute woman who was really quirky handed me a card. Her autism was kind of endearing until about a month later she's calling me looking for a place to stay because she was kicked out of her house for spraying mace on her roommates.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Ante Christ posted:

I've known only one person who handed these out. It was at a party, and this cute woman who was really quirky handed me a card. Her autism was kind of endearing until about a month later she's calling me looking for a place to stay because she was kicked out of her house for spraying mace on her roommates.

The sad reality of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010






I'm the guy who has a fax machine

Beelerzebub
May 28, 2016

I came here to laugh at you.

SaltLick posted:

I'm the guy who has a fax machine

Well, hello, Mr. Alex Bender.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Benny Harvey posted:

Saying it like that is just as spergy

I've never tried to initiate a romantic relationship, but if I did, that's what I'd say. Short, to the point, no room for misunderstanding. The woman can just say no and then I'll leave

crackton
May 9, 2009

Guy Goodbody posted:

I've never tried to initiate a romantic relationship, but if I did, that's what I'd say. Short, to the point, no room for misunderstanding. The woman can just say no and then I'll leave

How about, "would you like to grab a coffee?", rather than coming across needy and clingy af with the romance comment right off the bat ?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

crackton posted:

How about, "would you like to grab a coffee?", rather than coming across needy and clingy af with the romance comment right off the bat ?

Either way I'm gonna get the same answer, so might as well go with the quickest and least ambiguous option

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

crackton posted:

How about, "would you like to grab a coffee?", rather than coming across needy and clingy af with the romance comment right off the bat ?

She might think you're just being friendly. Gotta be up front, otherwise you're a Nice Guy

crackton
May 9, 2009

Guy Goodbody posted:

Either way I'm gonna get the same answer, so might as well go with the quickest and least ambiguous option

Nice guy spotted.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Guy Goodbody posted:

Either way I'm gonna get the same answer, so might as well go with the quickest and least ambiguous option

Or you could just say nothing

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Benny Harvey posted:

Or you could just say nothing

Yeah, that's what I do. I was just speaking hypothetically.

crackton
May 9, 2009

Benny Harvey posted:

She might think you're just being friendly. Gotta be up front, otherwise you're a Nice Guy


In that case just skip all the dating crap and carry a ring in your pocket and proposition propose to every woman you meet till one says yes.

Lemme know how that goes for you.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

CONSULT ME ON SPOONING BUSINESS is going to get me so many right swipes on Tinder!

Varg
Jan 13, 2007

A friendly face.

Guy Goodbody posted:

How hard is it to just go up to a girl and say "Are you interested in a romantic relationship with me?"


Guy Goodbody posted:

I've never tried to initiate a romantic relationship, but if I did, that's what I'd say. Short, to the point, no room for misunderstanding. The woman can just say no and then I'll leave


Guy Goodbody posted:

Either way I'm gonna get the same answer, so might as well go with the quickest and least ambiguous option

how many fedoras do you own

elise the great
May 1, 2012

You do not have to be good. You only have to let the soft animal of your body love what it loves.
"Let's start a relationship" = "I don't know jack poo poo about you but I'm confident in my ability to plow through any incompatibilities with denial and guilt-tripping, and will consider it a full breakup if we discover next week that we don't really have any chemistry."

"Let's get coffee" = "I want to find out if we're compatible for a real relationship, and actually care whether you and I will enjoy each others' company vs merely tolerating each other in exchange for sex. Also, I operate on a fairly high-context level, so I have plausible deniability if you reject me and so that if you don't do high-context communicate we can rule out a relationship quickly, since this is a major communication roadblock any time it occurs between two members of a relationship."

"Let's get coffee and see if we'd enjoy dating each other" = "I want to find out if we're compatible for a real relationship, I don't do high-context hinting around, and if we go on a coffee date and discover that you have nine cats and hate David Bowie, I will bow out gracefully with zero drama."

"I don't know you, but let's gently caress" = "Your vagina is all I care about, I don't care to disguise that fact, and I don't realize that promiscuous sex is extremely socially risky for women so I'm virtually guaranteed to get shot down unless you're impaired or make HORRIBLE life decisions."

Staring silently from across a coffeeshop while sweating, red-faced, over your latest poem about her eyes = "I am gonna wear your skin."

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




WampaLord posted:

How can you not include _ MAYBE here?

Gotta hedge them bets.

drat, I knew I was forgetting something. Too many years since elementary school.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Leroy Dennui posted:

If I was an old-timey lady, I would definitely consult the spooning business guy. The other old ones are pathetic while the new ones are creepy and reek of social ineptitude.

Social ineptitude is fine tho. It seems like every third goon has some crippling social anxiety or something. Social anxiety doesn't make you a bad person, a bad friend, or a bad romantic prospect, it just makes it harder to get started.

A shy boy and a shy girl might be a perfect match, but if they are both too shy to make a move the world just ends up with another cat lady and another bitter incel instead.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
Uh, usually guys who want to be clear they're interested in casual sex introduce themselves less forwardly than that.

Beelerzebub
May 28, 2016

I came here to laugh at you.

elise the great posted:

"Let's start a relationship" = "I don't know jack poo poo about you but I'm confident in my ability to plow through any incompatibilities with denial and guilt-tripping, and will consider it a full breakup if we discover next week that we don't really have any chemistry."

Does this count if you've been pretty close friends with the person for a while and you tell them you like them?

Edit: grammar

Beelerzebub fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Sep 3, 2016

Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

im the grease thumbprint

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
Why don't any of these dating cards include a dick pic cut to the chase dudes

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




CharlestonJew posted:

Why don't any of these dating cards include a dick pic cut to the chase dudes

It's on the back.

darkhand
Jan 18, 2010

This beard just won't do!
Pick a dick, any dick.

Ah the 2 of chodes, nice choice

darkhand
Jan 18, 2010

This beard just won't do!

nigga crab pollock posted:

im the grease thumbprint

Being RMS, that probably ain't grease

elise the great
May 1, 2012

You do not have to be good. You only have to let the soft animal of your body love what it loves.

Beelerzebub posted:

Does this count if you've been pretty close friends with the person for a while and you tell them you like them?

Edit: grammar



You could totally skip all that if you're pretty sure you've both had a chance to suss out your compatibility. It is, however, VERY IMPORTANT to make sure she doesn't feel like you're gonna do the Saran Wrap cling right out the gate.

There is a natural and critical period at the beginning of a relationship where you haven't committed yet and are just trying things out. Some relationships bypass this because they have uncontrollable raw sexual energy and by the time you both come up for air you already know whether you like each other's music. (You will know if this is happening.) Most relationships, however, benefit from losing the idea that as soon as you go on a date you're in a relationship.

The reason this (and other signs of desperation) freaks people out is that, for most of us, when we start dating someone we have to also consider whether the social and emotional risk is proportionate to the investment. If we're looking at investing two coffee dates, things might go well and warrant more investment, or they might go badly and cost us our investment. If the cost of a bad outcome from two coffee dates is a guilt-tripping, crying, clinging "ex-boyfriend" who has already said "I love you" and will maybe self-destruct when we bail, we want nothing to do with that. We don't want to be responsible for your misery and we don't want to have to explain to our parents who that guy is on our Facebook wall calling us "whore oval office slags."

If you're p sure the worst outcome is an awkward latte and a cordial split, there's no reason on earth not to give it a chance.


e. This goes triple if you're already friends. She's primed to say no because this dramatically increases the implied investment, which means you're within your rights socially to escalate that risk pretty far. Making it clear that you plan to keep the risk low makes it MUCH easier for her to invest.

Of course if you're already hopelessly in love with her and definitely gonna weep like a Louisiana seawall if it doesn't work out, it's all a matter of how much risk she and you are both willing to run.

elise the great fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Sep 3, 2016

Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

Varg posted:

how many fedoras do you own

Bobbie Wickham
Apr 13, 2008

by Smythe

E1M1 posted:

I treated a female cashier like a human being one time and she went "huh durr durr durr what do you want a cookie?!", but to be fair this was at Mrs. Fields and she was profoundly disabled

This is from a while back, but it bears repeating.

Guy Goodbody posted:

I've never tried to initiate a romantic relationship

We can tell.

Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"



maybe we combine the best of both worlds and have negs printed on cards

I can imagined "heyy girl i bet you're TOO dumb to even want fukk?" with a nice, tasteful cream background.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY
Negging is just the dumbest poo poo. Never met any actual PUAs, but I simply can't follow their reasoning.

"Oh man, she is totally out of my league! Wait a sec! If I make her feel like complete puketrash and destroy her entire day's worth of self esteem and pride, she won't care about herself at all anymore and I can swoop in and gently caress her!"

It's like, do you hear yourself, you slug-eating amphibian? You're actually insulting yourself, you despicable shitbrain.

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen

Calico Heart posted:

maybe we combine the best of both worlds and have negs printed on cards

I can imagined "heyy girl i bet you're TOO dumb to even want fukk?" with a nice, tasteful cream background.

With a dick pic (scaled up of course) on the back

Fat Shat Sings
Jan 24, 2016

phasmid posted:

Negging is just the dumbest poo poo. Never met any actual PUAs, but I simply can't follow their reasoning.

"Oh man, she is totally out of my league! Wait a sec! If I make her feel like complete puketrash and destroy her entire day's worth of self esteem and pride, she won't care about herself at all anymore and I can swoop in and gently caress her!"

It's like, do you hear yourself, you slug-eating amphibian? You're actually insulting yourself, you despicable shitbrain.

i think their train of thought isn't that they are pursuing people out of their league*, it's that women are "Whore bitches" and are turning them down for any number of reasons that are the woman's fault, not theirs. Negging them therefore doesn't make the guy think he is the bad one bringing someone down to his level, just that he has given a woman the equivalent of a social slap in the face and startled her into servicing him

It's the same concept as those bone structure guys. They don't think they are ugly they are just saying women are creatures of instinct that are attracted to specific shapes of skull without conscious thought, justifying why they (a perfectly attractive person in their opinion) is being passed up for other less attractive guys





*(I don't know much about PUAs so if the negging thing is literally based around shooting out of your league then ignore what i said)

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Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"



There was this one show I loved called The Pick Up Artist because the entire premise was a cool sex dude teaches fat nerds how to pick up women, but the guy they picked was the scrawniest, dorkiest, weeniest guy they could have loving found. He never once sounded remotely confident in himself or what he was saying, he dressed like a complete twat complete with fluffy top hat and magician vest and went by the name "Mystery". I constantly wondered if the girls who were into him at clubs were plants because he just came across as the biggest loving clown.

The reason I bring it up is because in an episode Mystery explained that a neg was "an innocuous comment that made you seem taken/uninterested in a girl so she wouldn't feel threatened by you and you'd have more fun". Dumb? Yes! But nowhere near as malignant as what we consider negs now. I wonder if the insulting negs maybe grew out of dorks not getting that concept

for real though mystery is king dork



even in this publicity photo he looks like a rabbit in the headlights

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