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Is Trump actually running ads in FL now? All I've seen are NRA ads for Trump.
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Oxxidation posted:I wouldn't mind a pic of Hillary Clinton straddling the barrel of an M4 Sherman, honestly. I was thinking more of an anti-aircraft gun, myself.
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Goatman Sacks posted:https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/775308081794199552 unhealthy penchant for privacy
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Sep 12, 2016 14:41
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DemeaninDemon posted:Don't forget the magic free energy thing. As a scientist i delight in libertarian antiscience bullshit. The best part about libertarian propaganda is that it's 100% dystopian even when they are writing fiction that they have absolute control over, because their utopia looks like a nightmare to any sane person.
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Sep 12, 2016 14:45
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So he's still trying to ride high on the 49 seconds of handing out useless toys to flood victims after being told to not interfere because he'd drain vital resources?
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Sep 12, 2016 14:46
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Antibiotics can take care of pneumonia. What's the cure for an unhealthy penchant for not letting us just literally film you 24/7 that repeatedly creates unnecessary problems, like us telling everyone you're about to die?
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Sep 12, 2016 14:48
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lmao this is incredible. "You're racist, sexist, homophobic, and Islamophobic, right? Well Hillary Clinton called you deplorable! Vote Trump!" If I were an undecided voter and I saw this ad it would turn me off Trump so fast, because it's basically saying "you're with us or against us" only the "us" is "tens of millions" of blatantly bigoted people, and then at the end just for good measure Donald Trump approves the message.
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Sep 12, 2016 14:49
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OH boy! I need to start watching my DTV subchannels for these!
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Sep 12, 2016 14:49
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"Hillary Clinton said that people who are racist are deplorable. You know, people like you!  "
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Dr Cheeto posted:Is Trump actually running ads in FL now? All I've seen are NRA ads for Trump. Yes, I have seen actual Trump ads in FL, not just Super PAC ones.
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Lightning Knight posted:Guys, I figured it out! I'm a genius! The problem is that we appoint LAWYERS to write LAW! Quoting from a few pages back, but this makes me laugh because that is the exact logic Ron Johnson is using for "RE-ELECT ME!" (he also used it in 2010) while at the same time saying "WE HAVE TOO MANY CAREER POLITICIANS, BUT THIS IS ONLY MY SECOND TERM I'M GOING FOR, SO VOTE FOR ME ."Yes, show everyone how you gave out play-doh you orange gently caress.
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Sep 12, 2016 14:49
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somebody please change their name to ANTIBIOTICS CURE PNEUMOIA
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Sep 12, 2016 14:50
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what i would really like to see is an ad that is pictures of people like david duke, preferably in full kkk gear and then quotes underneath them saying how much they love trump
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Sep 12, 2016 14:52
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The Real Foogla posted:somebody please change their name to ANTIBIOTICS CURE PNEUMOIA Well if it's caused by a bacterial infection, they do  .
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Combed Thunderclap posted:Antibiotics can take care of pneumonia. What's the cure for an unhealthy penchant for not letting us just literally film you 24/7 that repeatedly creates unnecessary problems, like us telling everyone you're about to die? Axelrod's not wrong on this. By not revealing her pneumonia, Hillary ended up creating a more damaging situation for herself than if she had just revealed it to begin with.
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Sep 12, 2016 14:54
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vyelkin posted:lmao this is incredible.
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Sep 12, 2016 14:54
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Night10194 posted:The best part about libertarian propaganda is that it's 100% dystopian even when they are writing fiction that they have absolute control over, because their utopia looks like a nightmare to any sane person.
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Sep 12, 2016 14:56
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Kilroy posted:You're not seeing it through the lens of a person who is used to being called a racist homophobic bigot. Would they be voting for Clinton in the first place? Is this ad aimed at getting new voters on the Trump train or securing his base? Because if I'm an undecided, I'm not sure that this does it (Do I want to be lumped in with loonies?).
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Kilroy posted:You're not seeing it through the lens of a person who is used to being called a racist homophobic bigot. People who are used to being called that are already voting Trump. People who are waffling on the edge of Trump support may well be turned off by being lumped in with the above.
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Sep 12, 2016 14:57
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Kilroy posted:You're not seeing it through the lens of a person who is used to being called a racist homophobic bigot. Yeah the point of the spot is to trigger white people that are racist but are really offended when they are called racist. Of course those people are mostly voting Trump but I could see some moderates saying "This Hillary has insulted me all I want is voter ID, a focus on legal immigration, and gay people to stop shoving their penises in my face."
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DaveWoo posted:Axelrod's not wrong on this. By not revealing her pneumonia, Hillary ended up creating a more damaging situation for herself than if she had just revealed it to begin with. That's dumb bullshit thinking though. If she tells everyone on Friday she has pneumonia, they'd still spend a whole cycle being idiotic about it and asking how long she'd had it. He knows better and he knows if Obama had pneumonia on the trail, they wouldn't have said word one either unless they were forced to do it. Radish posted:Yeah the point of the spot is to trigger white people that are racist but are really offended when they are called racist. Of course those people are mostly voting Trump but I could see some moderates saying "This Hillary has insulted me all I want is voter ID, a focus on legal immigration, and gay people to stop shoving their penises in my face." This is stupid.
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Sep 12, 2016 15:00
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http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/09/julian-assange-is-a-russian-front-man-not-a-freedom-fighter/#.V9LTcuBYC-E.facebook Seems like a good Assange takedown but I can't remember if the Federalist is supposed to be bad.
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DaveWoo posted:Axelrod's not wrong on this. By not revealing her pneumonia, Hillary ended up creating a more damaging situation for herself than if she had just revealed it to begin with. Again, it was a roll of the dice. If she hadn't had an incident on Sunday, it would have been the right call. Obviously with hindsight it was the wrong one, but the best outcome (that they were going for) was that they never had to say she was sick at all.
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Sep 12, 2016 15:02
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Yeah pretty much everything Trump does is about providing cover for his shithead supporters, and that includes this ad of course.
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Sep 12, 2016 15:03
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Radish posted:Yeah the point of the spot is to trigger white people that are racist but are really offended when they are called racist. Of course those people are mostly voting Trump but I could see some moderates saying "This Hillary has insulted me all I want is voter ID, a focus on legal immigration, and gay people to stop shoving their penises in my face." Yeah, they tend to not consider themselves racist because they don't literally belong to the KKK and not homophobic because they don't want gay people beheaded. Despite wanting gay people to be invisible and private discrimination against black people to be legal. So they take being called racist or homophobic as an insult rather than as an opportunity for self-improvement. There's probably quite a few wavering Democrat voters that are pretty racist and homophobic but vote Democrat because they like unions and healthcare. Trump wants to grab them.
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And the campaign is already giving the media the contrition they feel they're deserved, because political journalists are the dumbest, most entitled pricks on the planet. https://twitter.com/jmpalmieri/status/775331567174582274 BarbarianElephant posted:Yeah, they tend to not consider themselves racist because they don't literally belong to the KKK and not homophobic because they don't want gay people beheaded. Despite wanting gay people to be invisible and private discrimination against black people to be legal. So they take being called racist or homophobic as an insult rather than as an opportunity for self-improvement. There aren't enough of those voters (hint: they're white men) to matter.
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greatn posted:http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/09/julian-assange-is-a-russian-front-man-not-a-freedom-fighter/#.V9LTcuBYC-E.facebook They are 'traditionally conservative' or whatever where they aren't always reprehensible and when they are they pretend it's for some higher principal.
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Sep 12, 2016 15:05
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Hard to believe that the campaign didn't disclose a minor, treatable illness into a political climate full of insane wingnut speculation about her Morgellons while her male counterpart calls her "unpresidential" and questions her "stamina".
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Sep 12, 2016 15:06
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Calling a white person racist/sexist/homophobic is just like calling someone the corresponding words that start with n/c/f in the pathetic, half-functioning brain of the deplorable.
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Sep 12, 2016 15:09
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I loving loathe the god drat double standards of this election. gently caress Trump, and gently caress the media for propping up his lovely Cheeto-dust covered face.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I loving loathe the god drat double standards of this election. gently caress Trump, and gently caress the media for propping up his lovely Cheeto-dust covered face. Yeah, but sometimes they get a zinger in: https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew/status/775110996071424001 It's very much love/hate here.
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zoux posted:Hard to believe that the campaign didn't disclose a minor, treatable illness into a political climate full of insane wingnut speculation about her Morgellons while her male counterpart calls her "unpresidential" and questions her "stamina". lol
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greatn posted:http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/09/julian-assange-is-a-russian-front-man-not-a-freedom-fighter/#.V9LTcuBYC-E.facebook I enjoyed it and think it's basically correct, but Tom Nichols is your typical sort of Republican National Security Hawk (he's been vocally opposed to Trump and has said he would vote for HC if he lived in a swing state, but he also strongly dislikes her so make of that what you will) and therefore the sort of people actually inclined to defend Assange (far left and far right cranks) won't pay it any heed. Him trashing on Snowden a bit is likely to turn some people off as well.
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Just in case you're wondering if dumb young people are still being stupid about Bernie Sanders: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/young-millennials-love-obama-but-clinton-is-struggling-to-win-them-over/ It's one of the only major demographics where she's not doing better than Obama did, and I'm pretty sure it's all dumb "DWS took our democracy" nonsense
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Sep 12, 2016 15:12
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Well you know me I hate Snowden too and think he belongs in a courtroom
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Y'all ready for some hardcore equivocating? Both sides have become more extreme! Trump is more centrist than previous Republican nominees on the whole! Oh, you want to see my data?quote:Across all five issues, the average distance between Democratic and Republican core partisans increased by almost one-third between 1980 and 2012, from 26 points to 34 points on a 100-point scale. On average, the Democratic base moved 1.5 points further to the left of swing voters, while the Republican base moved 6.5 points further to the right. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/12/o...eft-region&_r=0
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DemeaninDemon posted:Calling a white person racist/sexist/homophobic is just like calling someone the corresponding words that start with n/c/f in the pathetic, half-functioning brain of the deplorable. Exactly why the media aviods like the plague, even if the person the are talking to is spewing slurs and calling for genocide.
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theflyingorc posted:Just in case you're wondering if dumb young people are still being stupid about Bernie Sanders: I had someone compare Hillary and Bernie as follows: "Hillary asks for gas money, Bernie gives you a ride for free." Clearly they hadn't seen the tax plans, but alas. Also, remember that stuff in Philly where Romney got 0 votes in some area? The Philly GOP head is sick of hearing of that: https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/775335815106920448 To you, good sir, you get my respect for today.
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greatn posted:Well you know me I hate Snowden too and think he belongs in a courtroom I'm not a big fan of him either, especially since he's now got pretty questionable connections with Russia and China, but he's still a darling among some on the left (and in libertarian circles, presumably).
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theflyingorc posted:Just in case you're wondering if dumb young people are still being stupid about Bernie Sanders: I think Bernie takes a small portion of blame for the way in which he ended his campaign by stubbornly holding on and casting doubt on the process but I think it has more to do with a generation of people who only know Hillary from the Republican attack bullshit, clouding their perception of her and, in general, a generation that views people like her with a great deal of contempt.
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