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Is a nearly 20 year old book about car ownership trends still accurate? If so it sounds interesting.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:18
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suvs are the highest selling kind of car again so i guess so
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Sep 15, 2016 18:19
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Citizen Tayne posted:People who pay through the nose for a pickup truck penis replacement have fragile egos, who'd have thought. Sounds like your small ego is shaped by other people's larger vehicles.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:21
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Solice Kirsk posted:Is a nearly 20 year old book about car ownership trends still accurate? If so it sounds interesting. It's a historical book, so it's accurate unless 1960-1998 has changed since 1999. Mozi posted:suvs are the highest selling kind of car again so i guess so Most modern "SUVs" are monocoque front wheel drive vehicles based on car platforms, i.e., they are actually minivans with aggressive styling. Truck-based SUVs are mostly long since off the market.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:22
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Citizen Tayne posted:It's a historical book, so it's accurate unless 1960-1998 has changed since 1999. Sweet, got something new to read this week.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:26
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Citizen Tayne posted:It's a historical book, so it's accurate unless 1960-1998 has changed since 1999. Wtf man, sure you can find an example lovely whimp suv, but there are tons that are 4wd based on pickup frames. Toyota builds their bigger ones on the tundra. Hell the RAV4 is lovely car-mini van but they are 4wd Everything your saying is extreme and absolute, and therefore wrong.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:27
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Darth123123 posted:Wtf man, sure you can find an example lovely whimp suv, but there are tons that are 4wd based on pickup frames. Toyota builds their bigger ones on the tundra. Hell the RAV4 is lovely car-mini van but they are 4wd They're based on a FWD platform and are base FWD. AWD is usually an option, the RAV4 is the perfect example of what a modern SUV is. The new Jeep Cherokee is a Dodge Dart minivan. The Explorer is a Taurus underneath. The Subaru XV Crosstrek is an Impreza. SUVs based on 4WD truck platforms are a miniscule share of the market compared to what they once were, and that's a good thing, because they were unsafe and inefficient as hell.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:32
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You can't fit a dead deer in a hatchback unfortunately. I mean, you could but...
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Sep 15, 2016 18:34
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Being unsafe and inefficient should only be for sports cars damnit!
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Sep 15, 2016 18:34
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Darth123123 posted:Wtf man, sure you can find an example lovely whimp suv, but there are tons that are 4wd based on pickup frames. Toyota builds their bigger ones on the tundra. Hell the RAV4 is lovely car-mini van but they are 4wd  the pleasure you get from driving around like an rear end in a top hat in your giant truck has been forever poisoned by the knowledge that people are absolutely on to your poo poo, and I'm glad for it
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Sep 15, 2016 18:36
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Pastry of the Year posted:
By his description you should be cowering at the roadside by now with tears streaming down as Expeditions drive past
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Sep 15, 2016 18:39
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I don't mind people driving giant trucks, since they're subsidizing small environmentally friendly liberalmobiles. Just remember that you're paying a premium to project a certain image and own up to it. Nothing wrong with that.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:41
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What about all the women who drive trucks? Are they worried about their small peens as well?
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Sep 15, 2016 18:43
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I used to drive a '94 Pathfinder, which I liked a lot and took on many trails. My in-laws drive a 2015 Pathfinder and it's literally a giant Altima
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Sep 15, 2016 18:44
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They certainly aren't driving them for safety, pickup trucks are demonstrably less safe for their occupants than most sedans or minivans.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:44
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but when you make fun of truck owners for having small penises, you're just furthering the cycle of insecurity if you wouldn't be mean to us, we wouldn't feel bad about having a small penis
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Sep 15, 2016 18:46
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JB50 posted:What about all the women who drive trucks? Are they worried about their small peens as well? They have small vags and are trying to attract small peens with their big trucks. I don't have anything against truck drivers. I do find joy in watching them try to navigate in tight spaces though. Also, watching them discover how poorly trucks do on ice.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:47
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An over-reliance on selling SUVs and pickups is what almost killed GM and Chrysler. If only we could have been so lucky...
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Sep 15, 2016 18:47
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Ein cooler Typ posted:but when you make fun of truck owners for having small penises, you're just furthering the cycle of insecurity I drive a Scion Xa, does that mean I have a GIANT penis?
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Sep 15, 2016 18:47
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JB50 posted:I drive a Scion Xa, does that mean I have a GIANT penis? Yes.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:47
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I don't care for SUVs personally except the old bigass Blazers and Broncos and Scouts and Wagoneers and poo poo like that. But I do love it when whiny nerds get mad about the cars other people choose to drive.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:48
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A few years back at a lovely party a drunken ex-cop got into an argument with me about something trivial, and told me he was a real man because he drove an F-150.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:49
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Citizen Tayne posted:I don't mind people driving giant trucks, since they're subsidizing small environmentally friendly liberalmobiles. Just remember that you're paying a premium to project a certain image and own up to it. Nothing wrong with that. Like any premium car (sports, luxury, etc) has the exact same thing, diff here is some truck touched you when u were young Image is involved in everything purchased, but just maybe not the only thing
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Sep 15, 2016 18:49
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"B-b-but they're unsafe!!" So what, I don't drive one. "B-b-but they get lovely fuel economy!!" So what, I don't pay to put gas in one.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:49
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two forty posted:I don't care for SUVs personally except the old bigass Blazers and Broncos and Scouts and Wagoneers and poo poo like that. Talking about the forces that shaped the domestic auto industry isn't "getting mad." Besides, half of truck culture and poo poo like rolling coal is about sticking it to the liberals, which is just about the most "mad at nothing" thing possible.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:50
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Citizen Tayne posted:A few years back at a lovely party a drunken ex-cop got into an argument with me about something trivial, and told me he was a real man because he drove an F-150. Excellent gauge there. What should I drive? You know me so well! I want to shun my image
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Sep 15, 2016 18:51
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Darth123123 posted:Like any premium car (sports, luxury, etc) has the exact same thing, diff here is some truck touched you when u were young We already went over why trucks are objectively more dangerous (to the occupants and to others) than, say, a sports car. Sure is nice of truck buyers to subsidize cheap Priuses though.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:51
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Darth123123 posted:Excellent gauge there. What should I drive? You know me so well! I want to shun my image You seem really defensive about something that had nothing to do with you.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:52
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Citizen Tayne posted:A few years back at a lovely party a drunken ex-cop got into an argument with me about something trivial, and told me he was a real man because he drove an F-150. And on that day Tayne vowed to get back at those evil truck drivers...
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Sep 15, 2016 18:52
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two forty posted:"B-b-but they're unsafe!!" So what, I don't drive one. The thing is, trucks are also unsafe to the vehicles around them to a degree other vehicles are not. There've also been studies that show definitively that the oft-repeated idea that driving a pickup or SUV makes you more likely to drive like a complete cockbag is, in fact, completely true. They are poo poo vehicles for poo poo people.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:53
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Cubey posted:An over-reliance on selling SUVs and pickups is what almost killed GM and Chrysler. If only we could have been so lucky... Full-sized trucks have always been the bread and butter for any auto manufacturer and Chrysler was literally saved by the Caravan which went on to start the CUV craze. Virtually all of the domestic makes floundered because they could not deal with making a decent small car in a time when small cars stopped being stigmatized as cheap garbage. Their immediate response was to cost cut to the nines and produce lovely models like the Cavalier, Probe, and Neon.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:53
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Gay Weed Dad posted:Full-sized trucks have always been the bread and butter for any auto manufacturer and Chrysler was literally saved by the Caravan which went on to start the CUV craze. Virtually all of the domestic makes floundered because they could not deal with making a decent small car in a time when small cars stopped being stigmatized as cheap garbage. Their immediate response was to cost cut to the nines and produce lovely models like the Cavalier, Probe, and Neon. You mean the minivan craze, right? Also the Cavalier was a German design, thank Opel for that. It was miles better than what GM made domestically (the Citation).
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Sep 15, 2016 18:55
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If you need a pick up for a real reason like you haul stuff a lot for work that's okay by me. 90% of people who drive a pick up do not need it, and also most of those are terrible drivers who think that they are somehow immune to damage just because they sit a foot higher than everyone else and tailgate/speed and weave through traffic like idiots. Roylicious has a new favorite as of 18:57 on Sep 15, 2016 |
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Sep 15, 2016 18:55
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Citizen Tayne posted:You mean the minivan craze, right? The minivan immediately segues into the CUV craze that occurs to this day?
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Sep 15, 2016 18:55
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Gay Weed Dad posted:The minivan immediately segues into the CUV craze that occurs to this day? Yes, minivans like the Explorer are very popular now.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:56
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Roylicious posted:If you need a pick up for a real reason like you haul stuff a lot for work that's okay by me. My favorite truck moment: It was the first snow of the winter in Wichita, so everyone goes out and dies. I was driving to work and there was a red truck on the side of the highway with it's front driver's side tire was about a quarter-mile down the road. The license plate said "Lucky 2"
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Sep 15, 2016 18:57
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People nowadays don't seem to understand how lovely cars once were. The Cavalier was a fantastic small car by the standard of it's contemporaries, and it was wildly successful.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:57
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Gay Weed Dad posted:Full-sized trucks have always been the bread and butter for any auto manufacturer and Chrysler was literally saved by the Caravan which went on to start the CUV craze. Virtually all of the domestic makes floundered because they could not deal with making a decent small car in a time when small cars stopped being stigmatized as cheap garbage. Their immediate response was to cost cut to the nines and produce lovely models like the Cavalier, Probe, and Neon. The Caravan did not save Chrysler. Being bailed out by the government and then being bought by Fiat did.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:57
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Citizen Tayne posted:Yes, minivans like the Explorer are very popular now. Except the Explorer is not a minivan it is a CUV; a car-based sport utility vehicle.
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It would be really cool if vehicles came in varying sizes and configurations to need the diverse needs of buyers. Those like me, who like simple, high quality sedans could purchase them and happily drive them for years. Conversely, those who prefer or require larger, smaller, or cheaper vehicles could also purchase and happily drive them too! Wouldn't that be great!!
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