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Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Quantum of Phallus posted:

lol if they remove the headphone jack from the iPad you won't be able to use it on a stand in portrait

An excellent opportunity to sell an Apple branded stand for $79

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Weedle
May 31, 2006




Quantum of Phallus posted:

lol if they remove the headphone jack from the iPad you won't be able to use it on a stand in portrait

If you orient it so the Lightning port is at the top, the screen will rotate to be right-side up.

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.

Is geekbench one of those javascript heavy benchmarks?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Mister Speaker posted:

I'm looking to install OWC Data Doubler kits in both of my MBPs, but a friend told me something that freaked me out - he said part of the kit's frame has to be filed down or else it will make contact with something on the logic board and short it. This terrifies me. Is there any truth to this? Is it only for certain models? For the record mine are both 8,2s.

I installed an OWC Data Doubler tray in my mid-2012 MBP. No filing of parts required, no logic board problems 3 years later.

This was what I installed (in case we're looking at different brands/models):

https://www.amazon.com/OWC-Doubler-...a+doubler&psc=1

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Bought some generic optical bay HDD thing on Amazon, didn't get it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058AH2US/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Seller said they will refund my $ if I remove the bad review. For $4 do I even care?

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Bob Morales posted:

Bought some generic optical bay HDD thing on Amazon, didn't get it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058AH2US/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Seller said they will refund my $ if I remove the bad review. For $4 do I even care?

That's some poo poo. Quote their message in your review unless amazon has a policy against it.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Bob Morales posted:

Bought some generic optical bay HDD thing on Amazon, didn't get it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058AH2US/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Seller said they will refund my $ if I remove the bad review. For $4 do I even care?

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/For-Apple-Macbook-Pro-Unibody-2nd-HDD-SSD-SATA-Hard-Drive-Caddy-Optibay-9-5mm-UR-/400991704037?hash=item5d5cf7d3e5

I bought this one!
Works perfectly

Zwille
Aug 18, 2006

* For the Ghost Who Walks Funny

Weedle posted:

If you orient it so the Lightning port is at the top, the screen will rotate to be right-side up.

What? I don't understand any of this. How does the headphone jack affect the stand? Or is this a joke?

I Am Crake
Mar 31, 2010

There is so much beautiful in the world if you look around. You are only looking at the dirt under your feet, Jimmy. It's not good for you.

Zwille posted:

What? I don't understand any of this. How does the headphone jack affect the stand? Or is this a joke?

The headphone jack is on top so removing it would mean that if the iPad is on a stand, the bottom-facing lightning port can't be used to plug in headphones.

That said, I don't plug in my headphones to my iPad unless I'm traveling with it, in which case it's not on a stand. However, if you bought the MiStand+, which you really should, you can use it however you goddamn please because that stand is amazing.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

I have some Logitech computer speakers that are like 12-14 year old



When I hook my iPad up to those I use the headphone jack. They're getting shity and if I don't have the speakers positioned right I get a ton of static and the volume control is really touchy but I haven't went and bought a $150 bluetooth speaker to replace them with.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Bob Morales posted:

Bought some generic optical bay HDD thing on Amazon, didn't get it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058AH2US/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Seller said they will refund my $ if I remove the bad review. For $4 do I even care?

Did you try and contact the seller before leaving the negative review? If not, then I would take it down and let them fix the problem.

BTW I bought that exact same optical bay and it's sitting in a drawer unused if you want me to send it to you.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade



Queue the next Retina MacBook CPU as the A12, macOS ported to the A12 chip, Apple says 'gently caress you' to Intel ..again

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Jeez, the iPhone 7 doubles the Samsung S7 in single core.

It's roughly the same for multicore, but I'm not sure if that's because Samsung uses an octacore processor or not. Granted some of those cores are for graphics or low-energy purposes.

Zwille
Aug 18, 2006

* For the Ghost Who Walks Funny

I Am Crake posted:

The headphone jack is on top so removing it would mean that if the iPad is on a stand, the bottom-facing lightning port can't be used to plug in headphones.

Ah, gotcha, thanks.

ShadeofBlue
Mar 17, 2011

Binary Badger posted:

Queue the next Retina MacBook CPU as the A12, macOS ported to the A12 chip, Apple says 'gently caress you' to Intel ..again

Yah, I'd be amazed if Apple wasn't moving towards building its own laptop CPUs at this point.

McDeth
Jan 12, 2005
I'm trying to find a keyboard stand for my Magic Keyboard on Amazon but I'm not having any luck. Ironically, Apple sent us an extra laptop and I need to return, and for shits and giggles I took it out of the box and I'm currently using it as a keyboard stand for my keyboard and it is PERFECT. Perfect height, perfect angle of the keyboard, etc. Everything only is either, a) made of a laptop and has a ridiculously tall 'lip' that prevents the laptop from falling off of the holder, or b) doesn't have an adjustable tray that allows the keyboard angle to be adjusted.

Anybody have any good sources for a decent keyboard stand?

Screenshot for giggles

kuskus
Oct 20, 2007

Saladman posted:

The graphics card in my 2009 27'' iMac went out (IIRC the Radeon HD 4850).
If it ran hot for 5 years straight, RIP. Its fans and vents could have been overdue for cleaning. I've disassembled one to replace GPU and swapped CPU, love that machine & its 32GB RAM capability but only undertake that if you can get a higher end MXM GPU. Also no USB3 or TB, too sad.

krooj
Dec 2, 2006
The geekbench score was an eye opener, but I'm always skeptical of synthetic benchmarks. Workload responsiveness is all that matters in the end, right? I mean, poo poo-posting from my 12" rMB is just as fast as it would be from an iPhone 7, but you can bet your rear end that running a development or rendering environment would be preferable on that MacPro, sluggish on the rMB, and impossible on an iPhone. All I'm saying is horses for courses when you look at these numbers.

Also, those MacPros were Ivy Bridge class Xeons, yeah? There are still tonnes of people running Sandy and Ivy Bridge desktops that are perfectly happy with the performance. A Kaby Lake Xeon isn't gonna let us download hentai any faster/better.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

krooj posted:

The geekbench score was an eye opener, but I'm always skeptical of synthetic benchmarks. Workload responsiveness is all that matters in the end, right? I mean, poo poo-posting from my 12" rMB is just as fast as it would be from an iPhone 7, but you can bet your rear end that running a development or rendering environment would be preferable on that MacPro, sluggish on the rMB, and impossible on an iPhone. All I'm saying is horses for courses when you look at these numbers.

Also, those MacPros were Ivy Bridge class Xeons, yeah? There are still tonnes of people running Sandy and Ivy Bridge desktops that are perfectly happy with the performance. A Kaby Lake Xeon isn't gonna let us download hentai any faster/better.

The only reason someone would upgrade for performance in the past few years would be for the onboard graphics. We've pretty much hit the point where 95% of people would be perfectly fine if CPUs stayed exactly the same for the next decade.

Violator
May 15, 2003


What's the best way to test my 2012 rMBP battery? I feel like it's starting to run down a bit and wanted to know if I'm crazy or not before spending the money for an Apple battery replacement.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Violator posted:

What's the best way to test my 2012 rMBP battery? I feel like it's starting to run down a bit and wanted to know if I'm crazy or not before spending the money for an Apple battery replacement.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201585

First check the number of cycles it has, the battery is rated for 1,000

But more importantly I would look at the 'full charge capacity' and compare that to what it was new. For example, the machine I'm using right now has almost 1500 battery cycles, the battery only has about 3300 capacity compared to when it was new it had 5600. So of course the battery only lasts about half of what it was originally rated for.

If your numbers look good than I would make sure you don't have programs running that would be sucking up all your power. Look at the Power tab in Activity Monitor to find those.

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004


I don't know about 'test' but if you go to Apple Menu > About This Mac > System Report > Power, it will tell you your battery's full charge capacity in mAh as calculated by the computer, and how much you have left, and how many cycles you have. It also gives you a 'Health condition'. If it's normal, it's still within the design parameters, but then again your battery may be miscalibrated, apparently these controllers sometimes get confused, which is why you see iPhones powering down at like 20% sometimes and people complaining about it - the assumptions the battery controller made were false. Anyhow, that should give you a rough idea.

What do you mean "run down a bit" anyway? Like, it doesn't hold charge like it used to? How many cycles does it have (also on that aforementioned screen)? Are you using any new applications that might be very taxing - for example, Safari is a lot more efficient than Chrome when browsing on the go, literally a difference of hours of battery life on my 2015.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Crazy idea but you could also unplug it and see how long it lasts with a typical work load.

Violator
May 15, 2003


Cyrano4747 posted:

Crazy idea but you could also unplug it and see how long it lasts with a typical work load.

I was hoping for something a little more controlled to see if I'm within normal ranges. Like Apple says 10 hours for web surfing, can I use a similar test to see what my results are compared to their optimistic baseline?

Bob and Pivo, based on your suggestions everything reports fine. My Cycle Count is only 362 (which blows me away since I've used this thing daily for almost four years in a crap ton of locations), my Full Charge Capacity is 7219, and my Condition is Normal.

I've just been noticing that during "normal" activities like web development, I'll have Safari + Mail + BBedit + Tower + Transmit + Photoshop open and I'll get roughly 3 hours of use before I have to plug in. I'm guessing (a) my main apps are more power hungry than I realized and (b) my battery "issue" is all in my head. I know Adobe's apps are terrible, but maybe Tower polls the network a lot and Transmit obviously keeps connections alive. I'll start keeping an eye on the Energy usage and probably turn off the menu bar's battery percentage display.

Thanks for the awesome info, really appreciate it.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


The fact that there are drivers for AMD RX 460 and 470 in Sierra at least point to new hardware coming out eventually; looks like it'll be those two for MacBook Pros and iMacs.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

So should you sell your Retina Pro now or wait for the new announcement?

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

Bob Morales posted:

So should you sell your Retina Pro now or wait for the new announcement?

You might be able to retain a couple hundred bucks in resale, but uh - what if Apple don't release them this year.

Fun times.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

If you're even thinking about selling it, you obviously don't need it that bad, so just do it.

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge

Binary Badger posted:

The fact that there are drivers for AMD RX 460 and 470 in Sierra at least point to new hardware coming out eventually; looks like it'll be those two for MacBook Pros and iMacs.
Well this certainly leaves me hopeful that I'll have a reason to upgrade from my late 2013 rMBP finally.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

My late 2013 is still ticking along great. No plans on upgrading unless there's a massive boost soon (hahahah)

Entropy238
Oct 21, 2010

Fallen Rib
Yeah my 2013" RMBP is still chugging along great – no issues, even with the battery (touch wood). Just got a henge dock as well and as that's so nice I'm even more reticent to upgrade.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Meanwhile I'm in need of a 4th logic board on my late-2013 rMBP :(

Entropy238
Oct 21, 2010

Fallen Rib

Hot Dog Day 42069 posted:

Meanwhile I'm in need of a 4th logic board on my late-2013 rMBP :(

That's hosed – as far as I'm aware Apple gives you a new machine after three repairs right?

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Entropy238 posted:

That's hosed – as far as I'm aware Apple gives you a new machine after three repairs right?
Maybe. At this point I'm selfishly waiting for a refresh before I push for a replacement.

Entropy238
Oct 21, 2010

Fallen Rib

Hot Dog Day 42069 posted:

Maybe. At this point I'm selfishly waiting for a refresh before I push for a replacement.

smart

WilWheaton
Oct 11, 2006

It'd be hard to get bored on this ship!

Entropy238 posted:

That's hosed – as far as I'm aware Apple gives you a new machine after three repairs right?

Maybe back in like 2007

I don't think they care anymore unless you're a real rear end in a top hat to the staff and want to get rid of you.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

WilWheaton posted:

Maybe back in like 2007

I don't think they care anymore unless you're a real rear end in a top hat to the staff and want to get rid of you.

At least in CA, lemon law states they have to replace a machine upon 4 of the same repairs.

1997
Jan 20, 2008

calmer than you are
Replacements are still offered, though rarely.

You'll need three repairs that required being without the computer at least one night- same day repairs do not count towards the three repairs. These repairs need to be within one year of each other. Replacement may be offered if the need for a fourth repair is verified. Replacements should not be offered while you are outside of AppleCare, but that's really at the Genius / managers discretion. There's some more to it than that but that's the main points.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


I definitely recall in another yob, those liquid cooled G5 monstrosities that shat themselves into a puddle of watery green goo were being replaced at one point with 1st gen Intel Mac Pros.

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Anton Chigurh
Mar 18, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

Xabi posted:

Can someone recommend a hard drive for backing up my iMac? It's got a 3TB Fusion drive. I remember there was some talk earlier about different brands and why some of them were better but I can't seem to find it.

FCKGW posted:

The talk was how they're all the same and it doesn't really matter. Just get whatever is on sale.

Bullshit.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-failure-rates-q2-2016/

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