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The AI banning lux annoyed me until I realized it only will pass against universally reviled players, and if that's the PC then it usually means that he's been steamrolling them for a Dom victory, and losing 4 happiness every 200 years ain't gonna save them. Venice getting banned and/or wrecked in multi has nothing to do with it being a a good, fun civ to play in single player, where 99% of hours played is logged. This new civ sounds great fun imo, you sacrifice the ability for a single victory type, in order to get insane religion bonus' without ever committing any policies/hammers into religion. It basically sounds like my standard deity game, where getting your own religion can be a huge crapshoot & totally not worth it (and nevermind the missionary spam...), so I just pointedly ignore religion and carry on playing optimally. Except now instead of one lovely religion, I can get EVERY belief every taken by the AI? Sign me up!
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Rexides posted:I am a bit confused. Does possessing copies of the same luxury provide additional amenities, or does it work like previous games? In their Rome game, they have 3 cities (4 with Knossos captured) and Tea, Citrus, Gypsum, and Tobacco all providing 1 Amenity to each city. If they added another city after Knossos, it would attempt to balance the distribution to keep the most cities happy (which would probably be a 3/3/3/3/4 mix). In their Kongo game, they have what looks like at least 8 cities, and the allocation has 2 Luxury Amenities going to the capital, 3 going to Kinchassa, and 6 going to Kristiansand to offset the -6 penalty from War Weariness; all three of the cities they look at in depth are at 7 Amenities through a combination of districts, national parks, and luxuries (though a size 17-18 city needs 8, which is why Kristiansand is unhappy), and presumably Skedsmo and Osaka are getting a large share as well being captures as well, though they're size 10 and 14 and only need up to 4 and 6 respectively . Looks like there are at least 24 unique luxury resources in the game altogether (plus some exclusively from City-States; Suzerainty over Zanzibar gives Cinnamon and Cloves with 6 Amenities each), so I guess theoretically you could support 4 cities up through size 54 on luxuries alone if you could manage the Housing, or more likely a wider empire into the size 16-20 range. John F Bennett posted:World Congress is not in CIV VI, right?
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PirateBob posted:Can't get over how lovely the art design is, both 2D and 3D wise... The leader screens are really good, actually.
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The removed fat teddy and replaced him with a human teddy a while back which was a good move imo. Also, if you'd rather have endless legend style combat you're just not a very good person.
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Sep 23, 2016 13:50
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Also, if you'd rather have endless legend style combat you're just not a very good person. I'm not sure why people keep suggesting this as an option that exists. I mean, it would also suck if they gave it an ME3-style ending, or No Man's Sky-style multiplayer, or, uh, a third lovely video game feature. Presumably it won't have any of those, either.
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Kajeesus posted:I'm not sure why people keep suggesting this as an option that exists. It's not completely unfounded, since they've definitely taken a couple pages out of Endless Legend's book. It's definitely a pretty out-there idea, but some people can't stop slobbing Endless Legend's knob so it keeps coming up.
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Sep 23, 2016 15:24
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Also, if you'd rather have endless legend style combat you're just not a very good person. Yeah they should go for fallen enchantress'
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Tiger Millionaire posted:The leader screens are really good, actually. Personally, the more I see of the gameplay, the more I like the art. The developed cities look very nice to my eyes, and have the nice side benefit of being able to distinguish key features at a glance. Some of the wonder-build videos look just plain gorgeous to me, seeing the wonder rise in the middle of a highly-populated, well-developed city with lots of buildings and districts and improvements.
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PirateBob posted:Can't get over how lovely the art design is, both 2D and 3D wise... I know taste in aesthetics is the realm of subjectivity, but how could you be so wrong about this? It looks beautiful- Colourful but not oversaturated, easily readable, great leader models, and the fog of war being a map is just the greatest little touch of polish. The only thing it lacks is fully rendered leader scenes, which I could give a poo poo about if it means more actual content. I will miss Monty's crazy fire though.
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I've grown to really enjoy the world map and the graphics on that. I think that looks great, especially now that they've tweaked the colors to look good. Still don't like the leader models though but it's not a biggie for me. What I really can't stand is parts of the UI though, I *hate* the way stuff like the build lists look. Ugh. To me it feels completely at odds with how the rest of the game looks.
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Hogama posted:
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gently caress, gonna need a new computer.
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Groke posted:gently caress, gonna need a new computer. If you're in the market for a laptop specifically, I highly recommend the Dell Inspiron 7559. It's easily the best bang-for-buck option I've seen in a long time, sporting a i7 6700 and a GeForce 960M for ~$850USD, or $1200CAD. Thing runs GTAV smooth as silk maxed out (exempting AA and High Res Shadows of course)- something unheard of in that price range. Only real issue is build quality is a bit meh compared to, say, a Macbook, and the touch pad isn't the greatest I've seen. Nonetheless, I bought two of them, one for my girlfriend and one for myself. We're going to have fun come October 21st.
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Gyra_Solune posted:this is pretty lame, actually. i hope they do something about this since it kind of sucks that you literally are just blocked from a certain victory type as this civ...whose leader UA is rather powerful for spreading religion since you basically get a free religion-spreader whenever you make your unique district. Their gimmick is that you can benefit greatly from religion so it would also be weird if you could win by it, otherwise nobody else would be able to compete in the religion game with that civ.
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I finally got to watch the full presentation of Rome and Kongo, and some of these changes are awesome. I think the dynamic of ranged units not exerting ZOC, and heavy cavalry ignoring ZOC has a good chance of making varied armies a real thing. Opponent has a ton of ranged? Use some horses and run around the back of the melee unit guarding them.
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The Human Crouton posted:Opponent has a ton of ranged? Use some horses and run around the back of the melee unit guarding them. As it should be.
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JVNO posted:Embargo Venice -> Embargo City States There should be a risk/reward system for just being like 'gently caress your world congress' and quitting it
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Groke posted:gently caress, gonna need a new computer. Found a site that might interest you for cheap computer builds ranging from $300-$800. Most of the information looks pretty solid, but I'd probably mix/match to whatever I wanted.
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Kajeesus posted:I'm not sure why people keep suggesting this as an option that exists. Diablo 3 1.0 loot system.
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IcePhoenix posted:Diablo 3 1.0 loot system. Some things just shouldn't be joked about.
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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Ice Fist posted:There should be a risk/reward system for just being like 'gently caress your world congress' and quitting it Civ4 let you defy UN resolutions, so they wouldn't apply to you. But it made citizens in your cities unhappy because they didn't like being a villain on the world stage. Not very helpful for the embargo resolutions, though.
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IcePhoenix posted:Diablo 3 1.0 loot system. Poop agents.
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Hogama posted:
My surface skates by. Hopefully won't be too much of a dog for playing on the couch.
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IcePhoenix posted:Diablo 3 1.0 loot system. Listen I made literally dozens of dollars from that game. Auction House Tycoon was genius. The demon killing side game was okay I guess.
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if you can't wait for civ 6, oriental empires is out now and its basically civ in china. its ea, but single player is feature complete. its a bit... hard to learn so far but it seems decent enough
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Davincie posted:if you can't wait for civ 6, oriental empires is out now and its basically civ in china. its ea, but single player is feature complete. its a bit... hard to learn so far but it seems decent enough From what I've seen it's more like Total War in China, is it not? The battles are done RTS style on a map, and 90% of the promotional screenshots appear to be of those battles, so I'm not sure it really scratches that empire-building itch. Edit: Lot of youtubes saying it's a blend of Total War and Civ, so maybe there is a lot to the empire-building aspect after all. Microplastics fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Sep 23, 2016 |
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its 100% tbs, it does look kinda rts when you zoom in, but you can't actually control those battles in real time (nor do they appear to have very much depth). you just tell your guys to use a formation and to go to a hex and then when you hit next turn it plays out. the empire building definitely appears to have more depth to it than the combat, about the same as civ from a quick play i'd say also the bots are definitely the civ type of rear end in a top hat, asking where your capital is and then attacking right away Davincie fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Sep 23, 2016 |
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That does sound a bit interesting. I looked at it but based on their steam page it seemed to be Total War Ripoff: China so I didn't see any point in it.
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Davincie posted:but you can't actually control those battles in real time (nor do they appear to have very much depth). you just tell your guys to use a formation and to go to a hex and then when you hit next turn it plays out. I'm glad to hear that because one of the things that put me off Total War was all the faffing around in battles I had to do (I realise that's the point of that game though; it's just not to my taste) Definitely worth watching a let's play in that case, might put it on my wishlist
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JVNO posted:If you're in the market for a laptop specifically, I highly recommend the Dell Inspiron 7559. Man, I'm looking for something like this but more in the 13" variety and 2/3 the weight. :/
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Peas and Rice posted:It never really occurred to me that the Mac release wouldn't happen on the same day I don't get these OSX woes at all, Macs have been able to boot Windows OSes for a decade. An entire generation of computer users have only ever seen Macs with Intel CPUs at this point.
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The White Dragon posted:I don't get these OSX woes at all, Macs have been able to boot Windows OSes for a decade. An entire generation of computer users have only ever seen Macs with Intel CPUs at this point. It's great that you have $200 to just throw away on an OS solely for gaming purposes and have the technical knowledge required to utilize Boot Camp.
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Wacky Delly posted:My surface skates by. Hopefully won't be too much of a dog for playing on the couch. Which surface do you have? I've got the SP4 i5 with the ram upgrade and I'm not sure if I can run it :-/
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Aerdan posted:It's great that you have $200 to just throw away on an OS solely for gaming purposes and have the technical knowledge required to utilize Boot Camp. But you had $1300 to throw into a machine that would cost $700 if it were a PC.
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Aerdan posted:It's great that you have $200 to just throw away on an OS solely for gaming purposes and have the technical knowledge required to utilize Boot Camp. Ok I can understand the price point, but you're overshooting it by $100 and even then it's not like at least one of your friends won't have the discs for an extremely common os that they'll just let you use. Unless your friends are all dicks idk? The technical knowledge to use boot camp isn't an issue and we both know it. It's literally just "search Boot Camp, press Next a few times, wait thirty minutes" and has been this way since like 2008.
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For me it's more that I play games like Civ while also doing other things on the computer, and I don't want to have to shut down all those other things, switch OS, and then boot up equivalent programs for all those other things just so I can play Civ (or whatever other game) while doing so. Native is better than dual-booting; I really don't get why this is hard to understand for so many people.
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