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The Human Crouton posted:Evolution of Civ VI music from ancient to modern era. This is really cool. drat, this is really cool. So far with everything I'm seeing about civ vi looks pretty good, there are some troubling issues, but it doesn't look like anything that can't be fixed in an expansion 
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lol it takes the modern era to invent percussion still, it owns, we have both the over-era theme changes and the per-civ themes i mean, civ4 had a per-civ theme, but it was the one short clip, but you only ever heard your opponent's music, never your own
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Oct 1, 2016 15:46
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:fixed in an expansion If I buy the Civ6 collector's edition (which says it includes "4 DLC packs with new leaders etc.") do we think this would also include major future Civ6 expansions, like Civ5 BTS / BNW ?
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Oct 1, 2016 15:51
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Jolarix posted:If I buy the Civ6 collector's edition (which says it includes "4 DLC packs with new leaders etc.") do we think this would also include major future Civ6 expansions, like Civ5 BTS / BNW ? My guess is 2 map packs and 2 civs. It is valued at $20 and civ 5 had civs for $10 each on release iirc
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Oct 1, 2016 15:58
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Phobophilia posted:lol it takes the modern era to invent percussion You heard your own music if you zoomed way in while in your own borders, I think?
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Oct 1, 2016 16:09
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Poil posted:Based on what I've seen so far tech still seems a bit too fast and production is slow as hell. From what I've seen, it's just that YouTubers are still in Civ V mode, where science is everything and you have to build a library RIGHT NOW instead of boosting your economy
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Oct 1, 2016 16:12
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Jay Rust posted:From what I've seen, it's just that YouTubers are still in Civ V mode, where science is everything and you have to build a library RIGHT NOW instead of boosting your economy Why shouldn't I believe that?
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Oct 1, 2016 17:17
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Jolarix posted:If I buy the Civ6 collector's edition (which says it includes "4 DLC packs with new leaders etc.") do we think this would also include major future Civ6 expansions, like Civ5 BTS / BNW ? It definitely won't include any expansions. It's not a season pass and Firaxis expansions are too meaty to be included in that price.
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Oct 1, 2016 17:22
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Baron Porkface posted:Why shouldn't I believe that? Because culture is way more powerful and important than it was in previous games. Faith too. Also there seems to be less snowballing possible with just better tech.
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Oct 1, 2016 17:38
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sarmhan posted:Because culture is way more powerful and important than it was in previous games. Faith too. Also there seems to be less snowballing possible with just better tech. ... I think you're misunderstanding him. He's implying that he does believe the streamers are trying to apply Civ5 science-is-everything methodology to Civ6 when he asks why he shouldn't believe thusly.
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Oct 1, 2016 17:48
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Yes? I'm saying why he shouldn't believe that science is the #1 important thing that it was in Civ 5, not that streamers aren't currently following that logic.
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Oct 1, 2016 17:54
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sarmhan posted:Yes? I'm saying why he shouldn't believe that science is the #1 important thing that it was in Civ 5, not that streamers aren't currently following that logic. ... because he's responding to a post that talks about streamers, perhaps?
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Oct 1, 2016 17:55
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Is it just me or does the US theme sounds suspiciously similar to The Wearing of the Green
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Oct 1, 2016 17:59
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I'm kind of annoyed that rulers have inapplicable "historical" lines. Both Spain and England go on about being the King/Queen of various places which don't exist ingame, Spain talks about following the true faith before any religion has been founded, Spain also talks about the might of their Armada crushing you when 1) They have no navy, and 2) have just been invaded by a large land army. They sound delusional.
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Oct 1, 2016 18:36
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Darkrenown posted:I'm kind of annoyed that rulers have inapplicable "historical" lines. Both Spain and England go on about being the King/Queen of various places which don't exist ingame, Spain talks about following the true faith before any religion has been founded, Spain also talks about the might of their Armada crushing you when 1) They have no navy, and 2) have just been invaded by a large land army. They sound delusional. We're talking about a game series wherein the the world is inhabited by monolithic "civilisations" led by immortal god-persons constructed entirely out of memes. Civ's got a lot going for it, but it couldn't find "verisimilitude" with both hands, a map, a local guide and two llamas.
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Oct 1, 2016 19:30
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It seems when 4x games try to go with characters that aren't insane caricatures of their historical personalities you can end up with the situation like in Beyond Earth where every ruler is indistinguishable. SMAC seemed to do pretty well making the rulers not totally insane caricatures but it was also going for a different vibe then the uplifting and slightly comedic tone of Civ VI. Also SMAC seems to have been designed by philosopher kings so it probably doesn't fit the norm of game design. Now what would be really cool is if a 4x game just did away with the whole great person approach to history and just went with factions that represent distinct trends of their cultures throughout time.
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Oct 1, 2016 19:45
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Gort posted:But don't worry, Firaxis are famed for their regular patching and dedication to game balance. 
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Oct 1, 2016 19:52
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Darkrenown posted:I'm kind of annoyed that rulers have inapplicable "historical" lines. Both Spain and England go on about being the King/Queen of various places which don't exist ingame, Spain talks about following the true faith before any religion has been founded, Spain also talks about the might of their Armada crushing you when 1) They have no navy, and 2) have just been invaded by a large land army. They sound delusional.
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Oct 1, 2016 20:08
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I know for a FACT that the United States hadn't invented banjos in 4000 BC. Took them centuries to invent that banjo.
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Oct 1, 2016 20:11
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wait a minute american didn't even EXIST in 4000 BC
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Oct 1, 2016 20:40
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Autonomous Monster posted:We're talking about a game series wherein the the world is inhabited by monolithic "civilisations" led by immortal god-persons constructed entirely out of memes. Care for some salad? I made it myself
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Oct 1, 2016 20:47
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fleshy echidna posted:
SMAC's entire thing is that the rulers are insane caricatures, except of philosophical/ethical ideals rather than historical personalities and nations
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Oct 1, 2016 20:53
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StashAugustine posted:SMAC's entire thing is that the rulers are insane caricatures, except of philosophical/ethical ideals rather than historical personalities and nations So kind of like modern politicians? No wonder they feel like real people!
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Oct 1, 2016 21:57
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Gorelab posted:The modern Civ 4 music basically made it feel like the world was just in some sort of hellwar to me. It was awesome. Felt appropriate for a world poised on either achieving the stars or nuking itself into oblivion.
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Oct 1, 2016 22:13
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I think it would be neat if each district had a name for when you mouse over them, as a way of showcasing the more "minor" settlements of civs. Like the harbor of Athens would be Piraeus, or the entertainment complex of Los Angeles might be Burbank.
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Oct 1, 2016 23:46
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Would give the guy researching Scythia a fun time
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Oct 1, 2016 23:48
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Bouquet posted:So kind of like modern politicians? No wonder they feel like real people! Nah, they're badly written and basically some of the most obvious author mouthpieces there are.
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Oct 1, 2016 23:48
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sarmhan posted:Because culture is way more powerful and important than it was in previous games. Faith too. Also there seems to be less snowballing possible with just better tech.
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Oct 2, 2016 00:11
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StashAugustine posted:Is it just me or does the US theme sounds suspiciously similar to The Wearing of the Green Guess you'll have to take that up with Stephen Foster in 1854. It's certainly possible he drew inspiration from it.  This looks fun. If you understand Russian, apparently this guy found out about Russia's Civ VI bonuses early and discusses them (he's playing as Greece in the video). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMR-Zox9iEE Take it with a grain of salt, but apparently we're looking at something like: Russia's UA: Mother Russia- Extra land when settling city, production and faith from tundra tiles. Peter the Great's UA: Great Embassy- +1 science from a trade route to a civ for every 3 techs that they have which Russia doesn't, +1 culture for every 3 civics. Unique Unit: Cossack (with something like +5 strength in home territory?) Unique Building: Lavra (does something like grabs extra tiles for a city whenever you use a Great Person's ability in the city the Lavra belongs to) Assuming it's all true, I kind of feel like there has to be something more to Peter, like how Hojo got the half-price districts added to his ability later.
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Barnaby Barnacle posted:I think it would be neat if each district had a name for when you mouse over them, as a way of showcasing the more "minor" settlements of civs. Like the harbor of Athens would be Piraeus, or the entertainment complex of Los Angeles might be Burbank. This would work except I keep changing my city's names, and then you have stuff like Honolulu or Lahaina that don't actually have entertainment complexes because they're just cultural, scientific, industrial, and agricultural sinkholes that used to be marshes but turned into deserts after some chucklefucks tried to drain them
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Panzeh posted:Nah, they're badly written and basically some of the most obvious author mouthpieces there are. ...so basically modern politicians.
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Oct 2, 2016 01:39
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Panzeh posted:Nah, they're badly written and basically some of the most obvious author mouthpieces there are. Man, where were you back when I was reading the Civ:BE thread? The constant talk about SMAC and complaints that the game wasn't another SMAC, well before the game was even out, made it insufferable and led to me eventually giving up on reading it entirely (leading to me missing the discovery of the actual issues the game had). Someone going "guys, SMAC wasn't that great" would have made it so much more bearable. Civ VI is looking pretty good, though. What are some good deals for getting it? Need to save money so if I do decide to get it now I could use any discount available.
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Hogama posted:Guess you'll have to take that up with Stephen Foster in 1854. It's certainly possible he drew inspiration from it.
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Oct 2, 2016 01:54
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what was bad about smac?
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Oct 2, 2016 02:22
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Roland Jones posted:Man, where were you back when I was reading the Civ:BE thread? The constant talk about SMAC and complaints that the game wasn't another SMAC, well before the game was even out, made it insufferable and led to me eventually giving up on reading it entirely (leading to me missing the discovery of the actual issues the game had). Someone going "guys, SMAC wasn't that great" would have made it so much more bearable. GMG and Bundlestars both have it discounted. Both are fairly reputable (GMG moreso).
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Oct 2, 2016 02:27
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StashAugustine posted:Is it just me or does the US theme sounds suspiciously similar to The Wearing of the Green could be, I was watching Enter Elysium's England game and their theme takes bits from Greensleeves.
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Oct 2, 2016 02:35
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Banana Man posted:what was bad about smac? I didn't age particularly well but also it's just one of those things people form Strong Opinions about so it can get kind of irritating if you're not on board.
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Oct 2, 2016 03:43
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Anybody have any fun challenges or alternate methods of play? I just did a cultural victory* without making great works and that was pretty fun. *started in atomic era
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Baron Porkface posted:I don't see how there is less snowballing possible.
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Hogama posted:Russia's UA: Mother Russia- Extra land when settling city, production and faith from tundra tiles. Definitely sounds a bit underpowered though, from that description.
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