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Oct 4, 2016 01:32
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Got my ticket for 10/12 at The Alamo Draft House in Kansas City. I'm excited.
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Oct 4, 2016 01:38
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Shin Godzilla is pretty great. The second attack is one of my favourites from any kaiju film and I actually enjoyed the human parts. It was like a light weight Armando Iannucci wrote some of it.
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Oct 4, 2016 01:46
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ruddiger posted:New godzilla's got me pumped like Half Century War needs to be adapted into a movie ASAP. Followed by Godzilla in Hell.
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Oct 4, 2016 14:42
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Half Century War is so loving good. My son and I are both big Godzilla fans, but he lives most of the year with his mother. When the collected book came out, I got it for him for xmas, thinking I'd read through it once to find out the story before it became his. As I read it it dawned on me "welp, I guess I'm buying a second copy of this." It really is the perfect valentine to the entire first fifty years of the series, despite being its own story in its own universe. They even give a jab at the 1998 film. Pay attention to the human villain's name.
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Oct 4, 2016 15:27
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So, there was an excellent Godzilla primer thread here a few years back. I've scoured the archives and I can't find it anywhere. Can anyone locate it?
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Oct 4, 2016 17:12
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Spatulater bro! posted:So, there was an excellent Godzilla primer thread here a few years back. I've scoured the archives and I can't find it anywhere. Can anyone locate it? It's on the first page of 2013 CineD: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3350308
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Oct 4, 2016 17:27
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:It's on the first page of 2013 CineD: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3350308 drat, thanks.
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Oct 4, 2016 17:29
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Choco1980 posted:It really is the perfect valentine to the entire first fifty years of the series, despite being its own story in its own universe. They even give a jab at the 1998 film. Pay attention to the human villain's name. One of my favorite parts of GMK is near the beginning, they make an offhand remark about a recent monster attack in New York that the Americans claim was Godzilla, but Japanese scientists are sure it wasn't.
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Oct 4, 2016 17:51
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:One of my favorite parts of GMK is near the beginning, they make an offhand remark about a recent monster attack in New York that the Americans claim was Godzilla, but Japanese scientists are sure it wasn't. Godzilla 2000 did this too I think. Or whichever one it was that came out after Zilla.
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Oct 4, 2016 18:29
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https://twitter.com/hakuou_nurakura/status/783280910980386818
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Oct 4, 2016 20:54
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I'm really surprised to find out that Zilla (American version from 98) has quite a following. I thought it'd mostly been mocked / ignored and then forgotten after 2014 came long.
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Oct 4, 2016 20:56
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Godzilla 2000 did this too I think. Or whichever one it was that came out after Zilla. GMK was 2001 and G2K was 1999 I think; it was probably in the can before they had time to judge the American film. It's been a long time since I've seen either, though.
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Oct 5, 2016 03:02
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well why not posted:I'm really surprised to find out that Zilla (American version from 98) has quite a following. News to me, though there's a decent monster movie in there buried under all the idiotic crapola.
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Oct 5, 2016 07:14
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Bimmi posted:News to me, though there's a decent monster movie in there buried under all the idiotic crapola. The last time I saw it, I was in the hospital and high as a kite on painkillers, but I seem to recall it being a halfway decent movie up until the point where they get to Madison Square Garden, when it becomes a 30-minute raptor chase sequence.
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Oct 5, 2016 19:17
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Here's the only good thing related to the Zilla movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIUAC03YMlA
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Oct 5, 2016 20:53
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I liked Jean Reno in that movie, but then again, I like Jean Reno in most things.
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Oct 5, 2016 20:58
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Timby posted:The last time I saw it, I was in the hospital and high as a kite on painkillers, but I seem to recall it being a halfway decent movie up until the point where they get to Madison Square Garden, when it becomes a 30-minute raptor chase sequence. the 30 minute raptor chase was the only part i liked, i wish it had been all that and less playing peek-a-boo in the city with a 100 foot tall monster
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Oct 5, 2016 20:58
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The thing is, I think even making it a Godzilla film in the first place was the source of a lot of bad will. If someone said in 1998 that the big summer movie was going to be about a giant iguana wreaking havoc on New York, and didn't mention Big G, it'd probably be noticeably more popular. Instead, they called it Godzilla, and overlooked the fact that people had been kinda watching the series for decades and had a set expectation with that name, which was not at all met.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:16
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Iirc didn't it come out a few years ago that 98 was pitched as a much more traditional Godzilla movie, but toho refused to let them either use any of the classic monsters or create new ones?
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Oct 5, 2016 21:44
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It needed a heavy script pass or three and less terrible casting, but you could do that while keeping the same basic characters and story beats, call it "The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms," and it might have been perfectly acceptable. As it sits it is one of the most aggressively stupid movies I've ever paid money to see, never mind the question of whether it's a real Godzilla movie or not.
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Oct 5, 2016 22:08
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I rewatched it a couple of years ago and expected to hate Hank Azaria's character, but he's actually really good. So that's something, I guess.
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Oct 5, 2016 22:11
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In any other movie he'd be the worst character, but that's G98 for you.
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Oct 5, 2016 22:15
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The biggest thing the director kept stressing is that he wanted Godzilla to be fast. How do you miss the point that badly?
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Oct 5, 2016 22:51
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From what I recall, Tri Star hired Devlin and Emmerich because they quoted the lowest proposed budget for the film over everyone else who wanted to make it. They actually didn't even have a plan or anything, they just said "hey, we're the guys who made Independence Day. We hear you want to make a Godzilla film. We don't care about what others have proposed, we'll beat their lowest price." I want to say it ended up way surpassing that budget proposal too.
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Oct 6, 2016 00:28
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Godzilla '98 basically sums up everything wrong with the 90s. They couldn't just make something back then, they had to gently caress it up somehow. Make it edgy. Make it "less shameful" because somebody might accidentally enjoy it in earnest.
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Oct 6, 2016 00:34
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This is true. I remember rumors floating around late 99 or so that they were going to make a sequel and have Godzilla talk...and be voiced by Will Smith. These were the early days of the net when things like that weren't so confirmable, so who knows if this was a real story or just some viral troll.
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Oct 6, 2016 00:37
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For as lovely as the movie was the first trailer with Godzilla stomping on the T-Rex was awesome.
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Oct 6, 2016 00:40
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What's weird to me is that ID4, for its many flaws, seemed to display a genuine affection for cheesy alien-invasion movies which made it all the more fun to watch. Meanwhile, Emmerich is on record as making GBS threads all over the established character of Godzilla and quite clearly felt the whole undertaking was beneath him, so we got a film that oozes contempt and sour vibes from every pore. Which has always made me wonder, if he doesn't even like Godzilla why'd he do a loving Godzilla movie?Happy Noodle Boy posted:For as lovely as the movie was the first trailer with Godzilla stomping on the T-Rex was awesome. Funny enough as a throwaway trailer gag, but the pointed dig at Jurassic Park is very much in keeping with the weird, mean-spirited tone of the film itself. Has there EVER been a worse, more self-indulgent running joke in a big-budget movie than that Siskel/Ebert business? Bimmi fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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Oct 6, 2016 00:44
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Bimmi posted:What's weird to me is that ID4, for its many flaws, seemed to display a genuine affection for cheesy alien-invasion movies which made it all the more fun to watch. Meanwhile, Emmerich is on record as making GBS threads all over the established character of Godzilla and quite clearly felt the whole undertaking was beneath him, so we got a film that oozes contempt and sour vibes from every pore. Which has always made me wonder, if he doesn't even like Godzilla why'd he do a loving Godzilla movie? Isn't that the same story when Howard the duck was made. Where Gloria Katz said there's no room for existentialism with a talking duck. Hollywood is full of stuff like that where you think why the hell would you even put that out there then.
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Oct 6, 2016 02:31
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Has anyone else read the script that was written for the planned 1994 American Godzilla movie that never went through? It was a lot more "traditional" than the 1998 version, with a mostly bipedal Godzilla fighting another giant monster. Stan Winston was signed on to do its effects, and he even made a pretty cool looking Godzilla model.
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Oct 6, 2016 04:52
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Iirc didn't it come out a few years ago that 98 was pitched as a much more traditional Godzilla movie, but toho refused to let them either use any of the classic monsters or create new ones?
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Oct 6, 2016 07:12
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Dylazodelan posted:Has anyone else read the script that was written for the planned 1994 American Godzilla movie that never went through? It was a lot more "traditional" than the 1998 version, with a mostly bipedal Godzilla fighting another giant monster. Stan Winston was signed on to do its effects, and he even made a pretty cool looking Godzilla model. I did. Reminded me of 2014 in lots of ways, inasmuch as the characters were pretty forgettable and some of the details felt weirdly off (Godzilla is discovered sleeping in a cave in Nevada or somesuch.) The enemy monster also felt like some scrub-tier Ultraman poo poo, or something out of a Harryhausen movie. And the Godzilla design was just another one of those T-Rex-with-spikes-on jobbers that bad designers keep churning out to make him more "realistic" or something. I don't feel like it was an opportunity missed, even if what we got was awful.
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Oct 6, 2016 08:09
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 Eh, i don't hate it. Though I've really come to love how bulky and massive Edwards' Godzilla is.
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Oct 6, 2016 13:20
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:
This would look so much better if he wasn't so green.
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Oct 6, 2016 14:31
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I really like the powerful, blocky crocodilian 2014 design. It fits the movie well enough. I liked an earlier post about how American Godzilla is a hero, while Japanese Godzilla is a monstrous demon.
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Oct 6, 2016 14:39
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Edwardzilla would've looked so much better if they hadn't let his arms just hang loose like that maquette is doing: I couldn't help but see someone's drunk, fat uncle stumbling from the couch to his bed in almost every shot where he wasn't actively loving something up and even a few where he was. The ready-to-grapple stance is such an integral part of Godzilla's visual language that it just felt wrong to me that they totally missed it.
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Oct 6, 2016 15:34
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I disagree
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Oct 6, 2016 16:16
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bimmi may have made some valid points but i'll probably never know because i tuned out when he badmouthed Ultraman and Ray Harryhausen in the same sentence what the gently caress dude
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Oct 6, 2016 16:20
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:bimmi may have made some valid points but i'll probably never know because i tuned out when he badmouthed Ultraman and Ray Harryhausen in the same sentence Indeed,both of those things are cool and good.
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