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Kassad posted:That all boils down to "civilization" being an extremely vague term, especially as used in these games. It helps that there's a modern India, but it's a shame because there are a lot of interesting historic empires there. It's just like how Indonesia represents all the historic kingdoms in modern Indonesia to give a grander frame of reference.
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https://www.twitch.tv/firaxisgames Should be starting in a few minutes.
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Oct 13, 2016 18:57
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So is there two leaders per country? I noticed Greece has both Gorgo and Perciles as leaders.
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Oct 13, 2016 19:01
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Rirse posted:So is there two leaders per country? I noticed Greece has both Gorgo and Perciles as leaders. Some civs have multiple leaders, some come with only one. In the base game it looks like it's just Gorgo/Pericles as a double leader, but they'll probably add more as DLC, and it's also there to make modding easier.
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Oct 13, 2016 19:08
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Rirse posted:So is there two leaders per country? I noticed Greece has both Gorgo and Perciles as leaders. In the stream, they talked about the modding prospects for leaders, that the framework should allow easy additions. Ed's playing on Emperor starting from the beginning, though he hasn't encountered barbarians yet. Rome's already got more than one city in the early game, though.
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Oct 13, 2016 19:12
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Multiple leaders has been confirmed for a while, but as of right now Greece is the only one confirmed to have two. Based on a leak we suspect that Spain will be the next to get a second leader, but we know that not all civs are necessarily getting a second leader. E: whoops left this tab open for a bit
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New city names aren't completely random after the capital; the algorithm has a chance of picking from the next 10 city names on the list. If both Gorgo and Pericles are in a game, they'll go through the Greek list faster.
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Oct 13, 2016 19:20
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I love how boring Ed Beach is. He's so soothing.
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Oct 13, 2016 19:42
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Once again the civ team proves that they're not that great at playing their own games
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Oct 13, 2016 19:56
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Watching him just mess up to the horrid unit Auto-Cycle is probably indicative of that being a setting you can turn off.
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Oct 13, 2016 19:56
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Chieftain is the baseline for AI; bonuses begin accruing above that. It looks like there's a straight up combat strength bonus for higher difficulties (+2 on Emperor) which means you won't be winning fair fights. Multiplayer details are slated for reveal before launch. https://www.twitch.tv/firaxisgames/v/94712781 Twitch replay of the stream. And now Youtube. Hogama fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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Oct 13, 2016 20:05
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Hogama posted:Multiplayer details are slated for reveal before launch. You do kind of expect that yeah
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Gort posted:You do kind of expect that yeah
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Oct 13, 2016 20:18
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Once again the civ team proves that they're not that great at playing their own games Devs that are 'good at their own games' are an exception. After spending 20 hours(Exaggeration?) in the code guts of the game, the last thing they want to do is touch it again in their off time.
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Oct 13, 2016 20:19
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Bloodly posted:Devs that are 'good at their own games' are an exception. After spending 20 hours(Exaggeration?) in the code guts of the game, the last thing they want to do is touch it again in their off time. I'm aware, but it's still funny to me to watch the lead designers of civ bungle an invasion.
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Oct 13, 2016 20:24
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Multiple leaders has been confirmed for a while, but as of right now Greece is the only one confirmed to have two. Based on a leak we suspect that Spain will be the next to get a second leader, but we know that not all civs are necessarily getting a second leader. Makes sense, for some of the more obscure civilizations (like Kongo) it might be harder to find a second leader, or one that can synergize with the civs abilities.
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Oct 13, 2016 21:07
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Khisanth Magus posted:Unfortunately 2k is not letting anyone do any more pre-order discounts. This is why GMG has to do a "Preorder Civ6 and get 20% off one of these other games!" deal. Are you sure about this? Their website still strongly states you get the 20% discount off the game itself. But I'd hate to order it and then receive an e-mail along the lines of "whoops, have this 20% voucher!"
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Oct 13, 2016 21:12
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Khisanth Magus posted:Unfortunately 2k is not letting anyone do any more pre-order discounts. This is why GMG has to do a "Preorder Civ6 and get 20% off one of these other games!" deal. What? GMG has 20% off right now and they just sent me a voucher for another 5% off on top of that. Darkrenown fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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Oct 13, 2016 21:13
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Makes sense, for some of the more obscure civilizations (like Kongo) it might be harder to find a second leader, or one that can synergize with the civs abilities. I think it's more demand really. Everybody wants to play Catherine the Great or one of the Caesars, but I doubt most fans are going to care much for the distinction of the two Montezumas. Also, Kongo was maybe not the best example there, since they have a very notable alternative leader choice there. I mean I guess not Kongo proper, but I think it would count for the purposes of Civ. Might also be interesting to have an alternative Kongo that will fight colonial powers instead of demand to be converted. Jump King fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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Oct 13, 2016 21:28
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scythian ares for second scythian leader
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I stupidly thought the early-Aztec deal would still be available. I'm guessing that door is firmly shut now?
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I stupidly thought the early-Aztec deal would still be available. I'm guessing that door is firmly shut now?
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:Why would it be? I thought it applied right up to release. Yeah my mistake. I'm sure there was post earlier in the thread about it, which lead me to believe they had shut the door on that offer, but the website still has it: https://civilization.com/buy#civilization-vi/civilization-vi-standard-edition
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I may have preordered the needlessly expensive version of the game, but I'll be the one laughing when the first four DLCs are great 
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Oct 13, 2016 22:35
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$68.60 for the Deluxe here right now: https://uk.gamesplanet.com/game/sid-meier-s-civilization-vi-digital-deluxe-steam-key--3031-2?ref=itad
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Oct 13, 2016 22:44
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:I think it's more demand really. Everybody wants to play Catherine the Great or one of the Caesars, but I doubt most fans are going to care much for the distinction of the two Montezumas. Or even just Lukeni lua Nimi, the first King of Kongo (but it would be nice to see more female rulers)
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Darkrenown posted:What? GMG has 20% off right now and they just sent me a voucher for another 5% off on top of that. I also only see the 'get 20% off one of these other games once you preorder' on GMG, no discount on Civ6 itself.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:I think it's more demand really. Everybody wants to play Catherine the Great or one of the Caesars, but I doubt most fans are going to care much for the distinction of the two Montezumas. Isn't she already in as a great person? I feel like those great people are probably not going to be the first round of new leaders, unfortunately for my Mongols. 
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:I think it's more demand really. Everybody wants to play Catherine the Great or one of the Caesars, but I doubt most fans are going to care much for the distinction of the two Montezumas. Isn't she already a great general though? efb but maybe for an expansion?
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:I think it's more demand really. Everybody wants to play Catherine the Great or one of the Caesars, but I doubt most fans are going to care much for the distinction of the two Montezumas. Huh, that's pretty cool I didn't know about that Queen, that was pretty neat. And yeah they could totally use her for Kongo, true her reign was more in Angola, but that hasn't stopped Firaxis from making small fudges to geography for the sake of having a ruler. Looking at you Polynesia...
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The Human Crouton posted:It's hard to keep playing Civ V once you get good. 4 cities, national college, rationalism EVERY TIME. Quit playing Chieftain on an archipelago map where you get the only 'big' island. No, really, most of the fun in the game is doing a little roleplaying. I'm usually a science/culture guy myself, but sometimes you just have to play Attila and be a huge dick and take over the world.
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Huh, that's pretty cool I didn't know about that Queen, that was pretty neat. And yeah they could totally use her for Kongo, true her reign was more in Angola, but that hasn't stopped Firaxis from making small fudges to geography for the sake of having a ruler. They might as well use Pōtatau Te Wherowhero if they're making another "Polynesian" civ, would be just as historically accurate.
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The White Dragon posted:I'm still waiting for the one-time deal contact where Renaissance and earlier leaders flip their poo poo about how the stars are moving and the world is about to end after you research Satellites. It would be pretty cool if applicable civs had different leaders that swapped out in the different eras, each with their own bonuses and agendas. Probably would be a nightmare to try to balance, though.
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Abu Bakr as a military-focused leader of Arabia would be cool. Something like "Rightly Guided - When you found a religion, gain one of every land military unit you are able to build, and all units get +X combat strength against cities." Just give him the opportunity to go wreck the gently caress out of someone as soon he gets his Prophet.
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Darkrenown posted:What? GMG has 20% off right now and they just sent me a voucher for another 5% off on top of that. Are you a non-US goon. I forgot that the kibash on preorder discounts was US only.
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I've had this tune stuck in my head on and off for the last 15 years... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb-4OOGbtFU&t=96s
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Looking at you Polynesia... There is, I think, at least more of a reasonable precedent for taking different yet related kingdoms that ruled over the same land area at different times and lumping them into one (see Indonesia, India, Germany) then just taking a large swath of different cultures that were never contiguous and lumping them into one (see Native America, Polynesia)
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Glidergun posted:Abu Bakr as a military-focused leader of Arabia would be cool. Something like "Rightly Guided - When you found a religion, gain one of every land military unit you are able to build, and all units get +X combat strength against cities." Just give him the opportunity to go wreck the gently caress out of someone as soon he gets his Prophet. Now is a bad time to feature anyone named Abu Bakr
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$56 for Digital Deluxe, $42 for Standard in the form of Blue Coins here: http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-SID-MEIERS-CIVILIZATION-VI-DELUXE-ROW-GN/sid-meiers-civilization-vi-digital-deluxe Conversion is 1000 blue coin = $1
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GirlBones posted:I've had this tune stuck in my head on and off for the last 15 years... You and me both, dude. This brings back memories of my grandfather like nothing else in the universe.
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