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The Doomhammer posted:Talking to Towa in the Reverie corridor should let you report. Lord Koth posted:Are you talking about the one where you're supposed to talk to Towa inside the final, final dungeon? I tried that, after seeing the "hey we should talk to everyone" cutscene and I didn't get my AP.
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Some Numbers posted:I tried that, after seeing the "hey we should talk to everyone" cutscene and I didn't get my AP. The one immediately before the final boss? Probably too late. You needed to talk to her downstairs. There are several small scenes available there (e.g., Alfin will tell you how Cedric has been doing).
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Oct 18, 2016 13:13
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anyone know if gurumin 3d is any good? thinking about maybe picking it up.
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Oct 18, 2016 13:44
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epenthesis posted:The one immediately before the final boss? Probably too late. You needed to talk to her downstairs. So before actually going onto the last floor?
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Oct 18, 2016 14:35
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Assumed the last playable character in SC would be Mueller, not Josette. Hate to say it but that's a pretty big let-down heh. Not really Josette's fault, though. what did you think of the end of chapter 8?
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Zaggitz posted:what did you think of the end of chapter 8? I actually just beat the game, but I have to run so this will be sorta short. Will probably circle back with more thoughts. Chapter 8 was awesome. By the time it happened, the Olivier reveal wasn't much of a reveal, but the way they pulled it off was crazy. Again, I'm impressed by how "mature" the story is - Erebonia using the orbal shutdown phenomena as a pretense for "providing security" sounds like something that would really happen, and Olivier and Cassius' maneuvering to counter it was awesome. I really liked seeing Colonel Richard and the Intelligence Division come in and kick rear end. I kept assuming he'd show up again and be awesome, but by the time it happened I wasn't expecting it. End-game stuff: Kevin executing Weissman was not expected, but very cool. I feel like Estelle is the only character in the entire game that isn't secretly a covert badass. Hoping Kevin will show up in TC? 3C? Whatever. Sad Loewe is gone but considering how few people actually die in this game, they had to give the ending a little weight I guess. Last chapter took a lot longer than I was expecting, but worth it. I took the time to go back and get the appropriate character for each of the bosses, and ended the game with Zane and Tita, which was maybe not ideal but, eh. I just got Dragon Quest Builders so I'll be playing that for a bit, but I probably won't be able to stop myself from starting up Cold Steel today or tomorrow.
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Oct 18, 2016 23:06
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Hoping Kevin will show up in TC? 3C? Whatever. Yeah he's in there for a little bit. The "ideal" SC endgame backup is probably Agate and any strong caster, but it's possible with everybody.
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Oct 18, 2016 23:08
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Really Pants posted:
It's really amazing to me how from FC to SC, Agate went from that rear end in a top hat I hated and let die on purpose to essential part of my party and one of my favorite characters .
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:End-game stuff: Kevin executing Weissman was not expected, but very cool. I feel like Estelle is the only character in the entire game that isn't secretly a covert badass. Hoping Kevin will show up in TC? 3C? Whatever. The 3rd. And I too, wish for him to be in it.  Maybe if we're really lucky he'll show up...
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Oct 19, 2016 01:28
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That's his brother, Nivek.
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it's obviously kebin
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Oct 19, 2016 01:38
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I like that he's pointing that bow right at his nun buddy and she's all "what the gently caress dude" with the sword up to deflect it if his finger slips
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Oct 19, 2016 01:38
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Death Priest posted:It's really amazing to me how from FC to SC, Agate went from that rear end in a top hat I hated and let die on purpose to essential part of my party and one of my favorite characters . Well giving him something to do other than be an rear end in a top hat for a couple hours and then piss off until the end of the story helps a lot.
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Oct 19, 2016 01:42
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God the geocities throwback april fools joke was so good.
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Death Priest posted:It's really amazing to me how from FC to SC, Agate went from that rear end in a top hat I hated and let die on purpose to essential part of my party and one of my favorite characters . Same. Agate is basically Wolverine in the hands of a good writer (which happens on occasion). The fact that he wasn't in my end-game party was mostly due to expediency than anything else (I didn't want to make that last trip back), though I do like Zane. I'm glad I chose Agate in Chapter 2? 3?, whenever that was a choice. Schera's perfectly fine (Trails is one of the few JRPGs where I don't actively dislike at least one of the playable characters) but I liked Agate much more. Anywho, Trails is basically the first JRPG I've finished in like, ten years or so. I'm honestly not sure what the last one was. Suikoden 5, maybe? It's been a while. Loved the whole trip - maybe two or three chapters were "meh" but at its worst I was still invested in the story and characters. Looking forward to Cold Steel - probably starting it up tomorrow! Edit: Also this happened to me after I beat Luciola but before saving - http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/250339770647486222/DDCE14E8C27AFCED35709FAC93D35CA975B5C81A/ Fell into the world. Have never done that in a JRPG before! 
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Oct 19, 2016 02:58
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Some Numbers posted:So before actually going onto the last floor? Hmm, I may have remembered this wrong. You should be able to report quests to Towa in the lobby until you go in to fight the last boss; I was thinking the playable characters all went up to join you at some point, but now that I think about it I don't think they do. You're saying that you can still talk to everyone but she doesn't give you the option to turn in quests? And you've tried multiple times?
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Oct 19, 2016 13:24
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epenthesis posted:I was thinking the playable characters all went up to join you at some point, but now that I think about it I don't think they do. I think they only come up once you've actually decided to go fight the boss and end the game.
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The characters come up when you go into the final boss room and trigger that cutscene.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:55
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gently caress why aren't people talking about Trails more. A friend got me to play Trails in the Sky in late August and ever since I've been going through the english releases, being roughly halfway through Cold Steel 2 now. Not being able to play the Crossbell games (yet?) makes me wish I knew Japanese. The level of characterization and world building is pretty incredible for a game.
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Heck, it's pretty incredible in general. By giving the NPCs actual little plot arcs and character beats, the games actually lean into one of the big advantages of games - much more time and text than a movie, show, or even most novels, and that can be used to flesh out way more characters than a novel could accomplish in way less time, and by making it optional it doesn't bog the game down.
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Yeah, that stuff is so good. I've been consistently amazed by it. There's very little dialogue that doesn't add to the world in some wa. Things like seeing that dopey kid with a crush on Rosie try (and fail) over the course of 6 game months to get time alone with her or the amount of foreshadowing relating to quests, hidden or otherwise. The bit that sticks out in my mind is the vendor in bose who is panicking over his list ledger in FC which you can later find in one of his products he sold. It really makes me wish I played without a guide to get all the points but unfortunately I'm not 13 anymore with an excess of time to explore every inch of a game.
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The Trails series might just have the best worldbuilding I've ever seen from video games. Apart from the level of character development, they only lean on inexplicable magic and technobabble when they absolutely have to--once you get past the ancient artifacts and fighting robots, it's all national governments and other groups of people exercising essentially mundane powers against each other in ways that feel sensible. Almost all of the heroes and villains have pretty solid reasons to fight each other underlying all their JRPG courage-and-power speeches.
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epenthesis posted:Hmm, I may have remembered this wrong. You should be able to report quests to Towa in the lobby until you go in to fight the last boss; I was thinking the playable characters all went up to join you at some point, but now that I think about it I don't think they do. You're saying that you can still talk to everyone but she doesn't give you the option to turn in quests? And you've tried multiple times? I went to the last floor, saw the cutscene about "white darkness" went back down and talked to Towa and there was as nothing new to report.
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Oct 19, 2016 14:50
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You've talked to Sharon and had her meet with Anton and everything, right?
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Really Pants posted:You've talked to Sharon and had her meet with Anton and everything, right? Yeah, I got credit for that one, but not for the exploring the last area.
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Oct 19, 2016 15:18
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I don't think the final dungeon has any related quest to report. What's your current AP total? 329 is the max.
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Really Pants posted:I don't think the final dungeon has any related quest to report. What's your current AP total? 329 is the max. There is one last sidequest that only unlocks when you enter the final dungeon.
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Yes, but Some Numbers has finished that one.
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Starting Cold Steel - I think I read in this thread somewhere, but I can't find it... if I'm semi-competent at JRPGs, Hard is the recommended setting for this game, right?
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Yeah. I'd peg CS Hard as around SC normal
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Some Numbers posted:Yeah, I got credit for that one, but not for the exploring the last area. After the Anton quest there's nothing left to report.
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Finally figured out that holding O during cutscenes fast forwards everything in New Game +. Thank god.
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Shinjobi posted:Finally figured out that holding O during cutscenes fast forwards everything in New Game +.  CS2 also lets you hold R to climb ladders more quickly
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Starting Cold Steel - I think I read in this thread somewhere, but I can't find it... if I'm semi-competent at JRPGs, Hard is the recommended setting for this game, right? Yeah. Hard is totally doable. Heck, a fresh nightmare run is pretty doable, if you take advantage of dumb poo poo like stacking impede on Rean.
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I'd say CS2's ideal NG difficulty is nightmare and CS1's is hard. You get so many more useful tools in CS2 and both the save transfer bonus and having double the sepith exchange rate help ease the early portion where you'll be wanting to spend on items. You definitely don't need to impede spam for CS2 NG nightmare, at all. You don't even need s-crafts outside of bonus AP that isn't required for 100%. For CS1 I'm sure it's doable too but I always at least transferred sepith.
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I really wish S-crafts weren't tied to breaking. It kind of bothers me that it is the only mechanic because impede spam you reliably have to control the timeline and it's tied to super-attacks that also use up your regular SP so it's harder to design the game around it in the way like Grandia or Atelier are.
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to be fair, you also have chrono burst and grail burst, and machias's burst drive
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Really Pants posted:I don't think the final dungeon has any related quest to report. What's your current AP total? 329 is the max. 305, which seems really low. I don't think I missed 24
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Xanadu Next site up. Also, Falcom put out a demo version of TX eX+ that lets you play up to chapter 3. Obviously it's in japanese, but hey, it's out there and it's easy to get foreign downloads on PS4. http://gematsu.com/2016/10/tokyo-xanadu-ex-free-version-now-available-japan
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Motto posted:Xanadu Next site up. Chapter 3? Are the chapters short, or is this a ridiculously huge demo?
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