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Tuvix cries out "DOESN'T ANYONE SEE THAT THIS IS WRONG!?" An entire Starfleet crew of moral upstanding people stare at him like an angry mob approaching their deposed dictator with farming tools and burning torches. 
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criscodisco posted:It would be rad if heck couldn't post ever again
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Nov 4, 2016 09:01
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Nov 4, 2016 09:06
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Automatic Slim posted:Get over it. Tuvix was a non citizen. No papers. No records. No logs. No witnesses. The Reset Button Authority inserted themselves into Janeway's quarters and had a very stern conversation with the captain. They warned that their enforcement arm, the Plot Armor Police, would have to vaporize the entire ship with vicious Technobabble Weapons (TW) unless Tuvix was annihilated. She didn't want to do it, but she had to.
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Nov 4, 2016 09:19
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It just occurred to me. Keiko and B'llana are basically the same character but Torres is dialed up a notch or two. Same caustic, passive aggressive back biting personalities. Automatic Slim fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Apr 22, 2022 |
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Nov 4, 2016 11:03
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Automatic Slim posted:It just occurred to me. Keiko and B'llana are basically the same character but Torres is dialed up a notch or two. Same caustic, passive aggressive back biting personalities. When they split Torres in two her Klingon and Human halves, their respective personalities revolve around being an angry bitch all the time and being a scared timid hoo-man woman.
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Nov 4, 2016 11:14
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Nah, B'elana wanted to kill herself. Keiko would never get that existential and instead would want to kill Obrien if traumatized. Also B'elana wasn't a worthless picky eater like Keiko was. If you put Keiksy on voyager and took away her precious 3x a day IDENTICAL MEAL #4118 replicator rations she'd crash the entire loving ship in revenge.
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Nov 4, 2016 11:19
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Counterpoint: both women turned their once vibrant life loving mates into timid self hating husks.
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Nov 4, 2016 11:21
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Yeah but if you separated Keiko's DNA into two species using Vidian technology you'd wind up with just fingernails and a chalkboard.
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Nov 4, 2016 11:24
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Nah you'd just get two 12 year old Keikos who both wanted some dick
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Nov 4, 2016 11:30
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Watched that episode last night where the 3 million flakey-skin refugees come through the wormhole and get all butt-hurt they can't relocate on Bajor "HERE WE GAVE YOU AN ENTIRE loving PLANET IT'S REAL NICE"  NO WE WANT THIS BARREN SOIL ON YOUR DESTROYED PLANETThis slow-burn on the Dominion is real good though. First we have Zek trying to make contact with them through intermediaries, and then we have the flakey-skins having their powerful overlords crushed by the Dominion, without giving any real details. MA-Horus fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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Nov 4, 2016 14:42
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I liked that they turned out to be agriculture specialists. gently caress you Bajor.
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Nov 4, 2016 14:45
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TTerrible posted:I liked that they turned out to be agriculture specialists. gently caress you Bajor. Space racism is bad
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Nov 4, 2016 14:49
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criscodisco posted:Nah you'd just get two 12 year old Keikos who both wanted some dick  Automatic Slim posted:Counterpoint: both women turned their once vibrant life loving mates into timid self hating husks. keiko did not do that to miles he was always a turd
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Nov 4, 2016 16:17
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Tuvix cries out "DOESN'T ANYONE SEE THAT THIS IS WRONG!?" Janeway realized that without a dedicated coffee punk she might have to wait longer between cups.
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Nov 4, 2016 16:25
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psychokitty posted:
O'Brien was a dude that used to get drunk with his CO and sing war songs I like to imagine that he had a point in his life where he was like "I'm done murdering bloody cardies for a bit", joins the Enterprise, fucks around with matter transportation, marries Keiko and realizes he needs an outlet for the rage she causes in him. And the outlet is murdering bloody cardies.
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Nov 4, 2016 16:28
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Keiko is the sand In O'Brien's oyster shell His pain is our pearl
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Nov 4, 2016 16:37
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MrSlam posted:Keiko is the sand Woah.
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Nov 4, 2016 16:39
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The only way they could have made the flake people more physically repellent and kept the pro-farmer motif was if they expelled little diarrhea blurps from their skin and dropped them everywhere. They were super gross as is though.
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Nov 4, 2016 17:03
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MA-Horus posted:O'Brien was a dude that used to get drunk with his CO and sing war songs he was always full of rage, he just drank and acted out before keiko
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Nov 4, 2016 17:21
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Imagine Obrien's anger the day he learned that Grand Negus Rom still went back to work weekends on the station's maintenance crew and was subsequently promoted above Obrien's former rank in just three short years. Some unlucky classroom undoubtedly got an ugly lecture about memory prisons and the hot stink of spilled cardassian blood that afternoon.
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Nov 4, 2016 17:31
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shadow puppet of a posted:Imagine Obrien's anger the day he learned that Grand Negus Rom still went back to work weekends on the station's maintenance crew and was subsequently promoted above Obrien's former rank in just three short years. O'Brien is a professor for his own required engineering class for Tactical officers just so the Federation can tell them "And that guy right there is why we don't build purpose built warships"
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Nov 4, 2016 17:36
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MrSlam posted:Keiko is the sand
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TTerrible posted:I liked that they turned out to be agriculture specialists. gently caress you Bajor. They weren't agriculture specialists, they said "We are farmers and will manage to make this land filled with industrial space poison arable through the magic of hard work and a can do attitude" Bajor was right to tell 'em to gently caress off, they all would've just died
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Nov 4, 2016 20:01
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That peninsula would have just been mountains of dead flake corpse piled inside two winters
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Nov 4, 2016 20:05
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Bajor was retarded on that because their risk analysis was simply flawed. If dudes are successful, great. If dudes fail, please like Starfleet and the Federation is just going to observe while mass famines go on. You just beg them and they send food duhhhhh.
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Nov 4, 2016 20:22
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How hard is it to make industrial replicators The Federation seems to be able to churn out massive starships with relative frequency so you'd think they could give a few thousand huge replicators to Bajor
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Nov 4, 2016 20:26
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Fojar38 posted:How hard is it to make industrial replicators That's bothering me too and I think it shows the replicators are a pretty big flaw since the only way to stop them from being the Save The Day button is to impose weird artificial restrictions. "We can't use the replicator cause...uh...the atmosphere. Oh, the atmosphere's got some bad interference."
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Nov 4, 2016 20:29
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I figure they're extremely energy intensive and bajor just doesn't have the available power. Also a planetary civilization requires a staggering amount of "stuff" to run. Even if you had hundreds of garage sized replicators and the power and elements to run them at full capacity that's a drop in the bucket for the needs of a planet. Also trek doesn't really "do" basic economics or scarcity. A thing is rare and valuable or in short supply when the plot needs it, and totally ignored when the plot doesn't.
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Nov 4, 2016 20:35
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MrSlam posted:That's bothering me too and I think it shows the replicators are a pretty big flaw since the only way to stop them from being the Save The Day button is to impose weird artificial restrictions. it's the leverage Starfleet holds over their head to ensure they vote the right way when deciding on whether to enter the Federation or not
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replicator despotism
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Nov 4, 2016 20:53
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Remember that Bajor was heavily depleted of natural resources to use with industrial replicators and didn't really want federation help until they drank the root beer
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Nov 4, 2016 20:59
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Starfleet also developed a bullet based weapon that could scan through walls and fire instantaneous shots to the target using a miniature transporter through cover. It's a wonder they aren't the most powerful military force in the galaxy.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Starfleet also developed a bullet based weapon that could scan through walls and fire instantaneous shots to the target using a miniature transporter through cover. It's a wonder they aren't the most powerful military force in the galaxy. From what I understand it's literally just because they don't "believe" in military force. If they did they would be the most powerful force in the quadrant by a significant margin, possibly on par with the Dominion
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Nov 4, 2016 21:35
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Arcsquad12 posted:Starfleet also developed a bullet based weapon that could scan through walls and fire instantaneous shots to the target using a miniature transporter through cover. It's a wonder they aren't the most powerful military force in the galaxy. They made the gun and discontinued it because they didn't think it would be used enough. The crazy dude using it in that episode jury rigged his own teleport attachment. The Federation could beat everyone but they refused to commit to a war economy even when the Dominion was kicking their asses. While Sisko and company were getting pushed around out on the frontier Risa was still holding their daily happy hour orgy and Fancy Space Planet 10 was still pumping out pleasure yachts that looked like swans. Didn't they even imply a few times that if the Federation population knew how badly things were going that they'd rather surrender instead of sacrifice their standard of living even a little?
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Fojar38 posted:From what I understand it's literally just because they don't "believe" in military force. It's mentioned a few times that the Federations biggest problem with the Dominion war wasn't ship/weapon production but finding people to man those ships. If their ~*Federation Ideals*~ hadn't gotten in the way of using vat-grown soldiers then there's no question they would have been able to go toe-to-toe with the Dominion. I guess the Dominion was supposed to be the Federation antithesis though, so they were allowed to breed an entire race of redshirts.
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Trast posted:They made the gun and discontinued it because they didn't think it would be used enough. The crazy dude using it in that episode jury rigged his own teleport attachment. I doubt the average Federation citizen had any idea what was going on until the Dominion rolled in and took Betazed, causing Lwaxana to briefly stop banging her way across the quadrant
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Nov 4, 2016 21:45
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we get boat we get go posted:It's mentioned a few times that the Federations biggest problem with the Dominion war wasn't ship/weapon production but finding people to man those ships. If their ~*Federation Ideals*~ hadn't gotten in the way of using vat-grown soldiers then there's no question they would have been able to go toe-to-toe with the Dominion. I guess the Dominion was supposed to be the Federation antithesis though, so they were allowed to breed an entire race of redshirts. Lord of Pie posted:I doubt the average Federation citizen had any idea what was going on until the Dominion rolled in and took Betazed, causing Lwaxana to briefly stop banging her way across the quadrant I like the idea that the majority of Federation citizens are liberal arts majors and basic military stuff like drafts and national guards have the same connotations that internment camps and goosestepping does to us. Makes Starfleet look like a bunch of jingoistic gun-toting rednecks in comparison.
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Nov 4, 2016 22:03
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You think you can't get hurt, Doctor, because this is the Federation? Root beer and all that jazz? Well, it's my job to keep the root beer on the table, and nobody asks me how I do it!
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we get boat we get go posted:It's mentioned a few times that the Federations biggest problem with the Dominion war wasn't ship/weapon production but finding people to man those ships. If their ~*Federation Ideals*~ hadn't gotten in the way of using vat-grown soldiers then there's no question they would have been able to go toe-to-toe with the Dominion. I guess the Dominion was supposed to be the Federation antithesis though, so they were allowed to breed an entire race of redshirts. "Computer, create a holographic crew so good it could defeat Moriarty in ship to ship combat"
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