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I had just assumed on Artix's death bed he would call out that he left the ending to PoP in one place.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 11:47 |
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Heaven's Stair (Polsy)
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# ? Nov 2, 2016 18:09 |
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I'm pretty sure that random conversation at the end ties into a random conversation you didn't stop to have during the climb. Say what you want about crow's platforming prowess, but he certainly didn't miss the vital story details that the game makes it such a hassle to find. I think I came up with a decent analogy for why the way this game is put together bothers me so much on a story level. There are a few portions that are mandatory, but they relate directly to the skippable ones (the ones that, in fact, you have to go somewhat out of your way to experience by hitting the "talk to Elika" button at various times instead of hitting any of the "play the game" buttons), so if you don't ask the game to please tell you the story at the right times, the things that happen don't really make sense, but happen as if they did. And of course, none of the levels have any connection to each other because you can do them in any order, aside from the first and last levels in each area. It feels way too much like early FMV games, where there could be no subtlety because changing one tiny detail about a scene meant taking up twice as much space on a disc, so everything was deliberate. If you've never played one, imagine having an identical conversation with the mailman every day, then one day, just yelling at him for no reason until he runs away in fear or something. Then, every day after that, the original conversation happens like neither of you had any memory of that day. Each part of this game is its own FMV scene, and nothing changes as you go along, so character development can't possibly exist. The words Elika and the Prince say to each other are just words that are said and then forgotten forever because they didn't want to film 35 variations of the level to account for all the possibilities. Or maybe it's like a cartoon, where anything that happens has to be forgotten by the end so everything can be back to normal in the next episode. Heck, this one even shows you how the characters can return even after suffering what should be fatal events. This is how much thinking I do when there's that long a gap between videos.
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# ? Nov 3, 2016 11:06 |
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All I'm hearing is that PoP MMVIII needs to be remade by Campo Santo.
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# ? Nov 3, 2016 11:26 |
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nine-gear crow posted:
We haven't forgotten about the death contest. We're up to 105 deaths--that's right, we've finally broken triple-digits. Thank you, Artix, for your sacrifice on nine-gear crow's behalf in the name of PoP2008. The following guesses have been ranked out: Shinjobi - 103 AradoBalanga - 102 Major_JF - 101 Eponymous - 100 Mraagvpeine - 99 Air is lava! - 97
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 17:44 |
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Blind Sally posted:Air is lava! - 97 I actually did a bit of rebranding on my name since then. (This is basically a random name from a admin thread.) quote:Predict the total number of times I die in the LP cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Nov 4, 2016 |
# ? Nov 4, 2016 17:57 |
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Blind Sally posted:We haven't forgotten about the death contest. We're up to 105 deaths--that's right, we've finally broken triple-digits. Thank you, Artix, for your sacrifice on nine-gear crow's behalf in the name of PoP2008. The following guesses have been ranked out:
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 21:51 |
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AradoBalanga posted:After a while (and the many "You need to eat a death in order to get this Light Seed" moments), I figured it'd happen eventually, be it through Crow's hands or now with Artix's hands. For what it's worth, there aren't nearly as many "gently caress you eat a death" situations as the videos make it look. Like yeah, you can eat a death if you want to grab it the easy way, but if it looks like it requires one, then you're probably missing something. Usually it's a power plate elsewhere in the level, or you'll make it if you're lined up just right. E: That said, anytime you put your life in the hands of the physics, you're asking to get hosed somehow. See that one jump in the last video when we were talking about Naruto that I'm pretty sure I actually made but didn't come in high enough to grab the pillar. Artix fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Nov 4, 2016 |
# ? Nov 4, 2016 21:56 |
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I feel like I'm never gonna get close to Artix death count at 666
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# ? Nov 6, 2016 06:42 |
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I miss being able to hear the prince and Elika talk.
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# ? Nov 6, 2016 16:05 |
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I don't. Just smarming back and forth, forever.
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# ? Nov 6, 2016 18:30 |
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Calax posted:I feel like I'm never gonna get close to Artix death count at 666 As long as he doesn't make it intentional now that he's taken over the game
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# ? Nov 7, 2016 01:49 |
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Congratulations cant cook creole bream, nee Air is Lava! Enjoy your new lovely avatar.
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# ? Nov 7, 2016 02:42 |
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Woo! Congrats!nine-gear crow posted:Congratulations cant cook creole bream, nee Air is Lava! For posterity:
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# ? Nov 7, 2016 07:41 |
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Yay! Thanks. Winning on a technicality is the best winning. Seriously though, thanks, I love it. Sorry for ruining the fun for the other participants. On a different note, what's going on anyway? I am completely lost on the story, why are you collecting those light seeds again and who are the demons you keep fighting over and over again? cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Nov 7, 2016 |
# ? Nov 7, 2016 07:49 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:Yay! Thanks. Winning on a technicality is the best winning. Seriously though, thanks, I love it. Prince is a thief of some kind, stumbles upon the land of the Auroa They are imporisoning Ahriman, the dark god Dark god shockingly escapes, it's seal having been broken Light seeds are manifestations of the seal, used to unlock new powers (so you can finish the areas) So you can kill the 4 Evil Generals of Ahriman and seal him
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# ? Nov 7, 2016 08:22 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:On a different note, what's going on anyway? I am completely lost on the story, why are you collecting those light seeds again and who are the demons you keep fighting over and over again? Artix posted:Other than that though, we're pretty much just going to pick up right where Crow left off, which puts us about halfway through the Vale. If you don't remember anything about where we are or what we're doing (and lord knows I wouldn't blame you if you don't), I also made a quick plot recap video summarizing where we are, what we've accomplished, and what powers we have.
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# ? Nov 7, 2016 18:08 |
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Huh, I'm a moron. That video is helpful. But frankly I don't feel like this is a good plot.
cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Nov 7, 2016 |
# ? Nov 7, 2016 18:10 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:Huh, I'm a moron. That video is helpful. But frankly I don't feel like this is a good plot. It's about sands of time level with much worse storytelling due to the fragmented nature of the conversations both in ordering (love hate story etc) and a lot of it is in random talky bits around an area.
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# ? Nov 7, 2016 18:19 |
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And if you go back to... mid-ways of crow part, he posted the "actual route/plot route" map. That is confusing.
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# ? Nov 7, 2016 20:55 |
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Every post brings us one step closer to realizing my dream of this being one of the most convoluted, over-produced, dragged out LPs on the subforums GuyUpNorth posted:And if you go back to... mid-ways of crow part, he posted the "actual route/plot route" map. That is confusing. nine-gear crow posted:Pretty much this right here. The game is set up so that you literally have to clear out at least two of the four starter zones before you can take on any of the actual fertile grounds in any of the main areas beyond them.
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 04:03 |
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Need to re-release some old Crow videos, and digitally add in cameos from other characters. LIKE THIS GUY
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 04:06 |
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Crow didn't help things by diagramming it with all those criss-crossing arrows either. Really, you can simplify the route to the following with no trouble: 1) All four tutorial areas. You need 60 light seeds to get the first power and there's only ~40 per stage available. 2) Unlock the first plate (in our case, red) 3) First area of the region corresponding to the power you got in 2 (again in our case, Hunter's Citadel). You need 170 light seeds for the second power, and this is the earliest you can get that. 4) Unlock the complementary plate for the region you started (for us, the yellow plate) 5) Finish whatever area you started. If you were diligent about light seeds, you have the 340 you need for the third plate. 6) Unlock your third power, both of them will give you a complete region to do. 7) After completing the second region you should have just enough to hit 540, which unlocks the final plate. And really, 6 and 7 are both unnecessary. As long as the first two powers you get unlock a full region and you don't go out of your way to ignore light seeds, you can do the whole game with basically zero backtracking. Like most of the things in the game, it looks far more complex than it actually is.
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 04:27 |
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All in all, it's still probably a good thing crow and Artix did the recording for this LP. If I had done it, it may have looked a little like this:
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 04:52 |
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https://twitter.com/Tyty210/status/795862985298186240 I have been asked by random internet person Tyty to post a poll in this thread. Please vote in it. No, you will not get any further context than that. Thank you.
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 07:03 |
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Blind Sally posted:All in all, it's still probably a good thing crow and Artix did the recording for this LP. If I had done it, it may have looked a little like this:
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 11:45 |
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The Observatory (Polsy)
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# ? Nov 9, 2016 17:54 |
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Holy poo poo. This is momentous. We did it, folks. We made through the Vale. We are finally halfway through this damned game/LP. I never thought this moment would arrive. I never dared to dream...
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 04:45 |
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Blind Sally posted:Holy poo poo. This is momentous. We did it, folks. We made through the Vale. We are finally halfway through this damned game/LP. For good and ill, 2016 makes the impossible... possible.
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 04:49 |
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The Caverns (Polsy) nine-gear crow posted:THE CONCUBINE
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# ? Nov 16, 2016 18:13 |
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Why is this so easy to misread as Ropal Palace Also, nutri_void fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Nov 16, 2016 |
# ? Nov 16, 2016 18:42 |
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We had that discussion between videos/in either the Gardens or Spire video which are coming up next about how bad the Prince of Persia title font is at mimicking letters that don't appear in the words "Prince of Persia". Fun fact: the R in Royal there is actually a lower case r in the PoP font blown up to capital size, because the actual R in the font pack looks like a P with a barely discernible serif so it would have looked like it said "Poyal Palace".
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# ? Nov 16, 2016 20:27 |
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[obligatory joke about CJacobs and poles, I guess] Every time I see that ceiling cartwheeling maneuver, I get distracted for the remainder of the video trying to figure out how it would be remotely possible even with this game's tenuous grasp on the laws of physics. Like, I would be totally onboard with it if Elika were involved somehow, but of all the stupid bullshit in PoP2008, that is the one thing which makes me scream in the back of my mind, "gravity doesn't work that way."
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# ? Nov 20, 2016 04:17 |
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regarding CJacobs and gravity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFmjFgqUMFo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VceLL0qLUWE
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# ? Nov 20, 2016 04:37 |
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The Royal Gardens (Polsy)
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 19:24 |
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boom boom dollar, get that poo poo outta here
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 09:13 |
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To be fair, I was only following orders Also, Artix 'd out and put the wrong title in there, I actually linked him BOOM BOOM DOLLAR (K.O.G G3 MIX)
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 09:55 |
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please do not white knight White Knight Chronicles, crow. that game was horrible garbage--you've already proven this
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 16:14 |
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If that's what you wanted, maybe you should have said that instead of the [whatever song is playing] and [please edit something in here, Artix] bullshit you guys did.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 18:52 |
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 15:59 |
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Boom Boom Dollar is causing fights, splitting families. What hell is this that it's unleashed upon the LP subforum?
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 19:01 |