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That was a pretty good episode but yeah I can't imagine Lance got secret subliminal ninja training.
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irlZaphod posted:That was a pretty good episode but yeah I can't imagine Lance got secret subliminal ninja training. BARROWMAN 
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I was really hoping they were going to go back in the season one direction of killing bad guys, but this episode makes it seem like Ollie's swinging back towards "killing is bad". Having a guy who's only power is shooting arrows not kill people is just dumb.
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Tiggum posted:I was really hoping they were going to go back in the season one direction of killing bad guys, but this episode makes it seem like Ollie's swinging back towards "killing is bad". Having a guy who's only power is shooting arrows not kill people is just dumb. Next you are gonna tell us that boxing glove arrows are dumb too. 
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Tiggum posted:I was really hoping they were going to go back in the season one direction of killing bad guys, but this episode makes it seem like Ollie's swinging back towards "killing is bad". Having a guy who's only power is shooting arrows not kill people is just dumb. Actually this season makes the most sense. Kill when necessary but not when unnecessary.
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Tarquinn posted:Next you are gonna tell us that boxing glove arrows are dumb too. Nah they are awesome. But what is real not dumb is shooting an arrow down the barrel of a gun. gently caress yeah!
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nelson posted:Actually this season makes the most sense. Kill when necessary but not when unnecessary. BSam posted:Nah they are awesome. But what is real not dumb is shooting an arrow down the barrel of a gun. gently caress yeah!
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nelson posted:Actually this season makes the most sense. Kill when necessary but not when unnecessary.
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irlZaphod posted:There are 4 mini-Felicities now to stop Ollie from killing. I don't think Wyld Dawg would give much opposition.
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nooneofconsequence posted:I don't think Wyld Dawg would give much opposition. I liked that bit, where everyone is freaking out about Oliver having a hit list while Wild Dog is all "yeah so?"
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I like that true to character consistency. I liked the part where they all thought The Hood was Roy who died in prison because that's what anyone not in the inner circle and just going on the news probably would have thought. I liked how it was Evelyn who was most bothered because he shot down her own quest for revenge. How Ragman was kind of like "ok, I went on a revenge kick too but a list is kind of extreme." They just did a good job juggling a lot of characters having proper reactions for themselves and not just the narrative. Unlike some others in here I don't think Oliver should just start murdering everyone with no remorse. That would be a major step backwards for his character and make most of these people working with him untrue to their characters if they went with it. He found his sweet spot with Damian Darkh where he'll kill if he needs to but doesn't use it as a first resort. Now he's just got all this residual guilt for what he's done that he has to deal with in a new way with fresh eyes with these recruits. Which is good. That's a hurdle Oliver SHOULD have to deal with when he's telling a bunch of new vigilantes to not do the things he did when he started.
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Didn't he already have this revelation seasons ago with Count Vertigo? Why are we still dealing with this seasons later?
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When you take on a bunch of new proteges something like "I was previously an unrepentant serial killer before I made friends" is going to end up rearing its head sooner or later. That episode wasn't really about Oliver wrestling with it anymore. He had one talk with Diggle to reassure himself that he had changed. Diggle and Felicity weren't upset because they've dealt with this already. It was about the new kids coming to terms with what is an unquestionably horrible past. If anything, people who don't want to rehash this should probably be happy that it seemed to largely get resolved in this episode. It could have gotten strung out a lot more in typical Arrow/CW fashion. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Nov 12, 2016 |
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Klungar posted:Didn't he already have this revelation seasons ago with Count Vertigo? Why are we still dealing with this seasons later? Backsliding is part of the process too.
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Klungar posted:Didn't he already have this revelation seasons ago with Count Vertigo? Why are we still dealing with this seasons later? I think his conclusion there was actually not to kill no matter what.
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Aphrodite posted:I think his conclusion there was actually not to kill no matter what. I thought he broke his no-kill rule to kill Vertigo because he was going to kill Felicity?
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Yeah, and then he became super must not kill Ollie, until Darhk.
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I would have thought everyone would be just ok with it. He's probably killed hundreds of people by now. It's not all the time, half of these clowns come back from the dead anyway.
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Oliver should have pointed out he was killing the bourgeois and that if they didn't join in his proletariat revolt they should leave. All the episodes this season have been pretty good. Really liked Dolph Lundgren
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah, and then he became super must not kill Ollie, until Darhk.
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So is it time to change the thread title now that this show is good again?
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The Lord Bude posted:So is it time to change the thread title now that this show is good again? What do you mean? It's always been good.
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I actually agree with you, but that's not what the typical perception has been. We need to get people back on board. I remember when there would be pages of liveposting.
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I do wish they used Dig more in the previous seasons bringing the counter point of a solider. Dig has killed people before, granted under the authority of the government, and realizes that sometimes death is the only option.
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Not to start anything, but I disagree. Dig had been used perfectly throughout the series and has been the perfect counter-point to Oliver at almost every moment when called for. He can't defend The List to the recruits because he was just as critical of it and was even the first to imply that Oliver was insane and a potential serial killer, not a soldier.
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Dig was awesome until they brought I'm his supposed to be dead brother.
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The Lord Bude posted:So is it time to change the thread title now that this show is good again? Don't jinx it.
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Rhyno posted:Dig was awesome until they brought I'm his supposed to be dead brother. Yeah, Dig's brother was so obviously going to betray them. That plotline was just so obnoxious to watch because you knew exactly where it was going to end.
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Laurel's death gave is the best grief by way of Diggle's anger.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Yeah, Dig's brother was so obviously going to betray them. That plotline was just so obnoxious to watch because you knew exactly where it was going to end. Really? I was surprised by it - to me the cliche/predictable ending would have been for Andy to betray them, but then be redeemed and probably die in a heroic sacrifice. Having him betray his brother at every turn and just keep trying to kill his own family every time until his own brother had no choice but to kill him in cold blood was more brutal than I expected.
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Hollismason posted:Oliver should have pointed out he was killing the bourgeois and that if they didn't join in his proletariat revolt they should leave. This, but unironically.
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The Lord Bude posted:I actually agree with you, but that's not what the typical perception has been. We need to get people back on board. I remember when there would be pages of liveposting.
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irlZaphod posted:Last season was kind of bad. I think the goon consensus is the seasons tend to start strong but end up weak. Hopefully this one will be good all the way through.
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The 1st 2 seasons were especially on fire around or at the 14th episode so I'm using that as a benchmark.
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bentacos posted:Don't jinx it. Arrow Season 5 - Not just watching to understand the crossover event anymore
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yo Dolph is still a monster.
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Dead Snoopy posted:The 1st 2 seasons were especially on fire around or at the 14th episode so I'm using that as a benchmark. Peak Season 2 and peak Arrow to me will always be 
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Not gonna lie, "The Climb" was a really good episode too. Ra's completely dominating Oliver and kicking his rear end off the mountain was amazing especially leading into the midseason break. a shame the rest of season 3 was mediocre
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Oroborus posted:What if it was subtle? like Nah, they changed last seasons title ever so slightly, then it got poo poo.
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Bad Moon posted:Peak Season 2 and peak Arrow to me will always be I'm so glad someone got a kick out of that 
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