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http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/roster-size-active-september-call-ups-relievers-pace-of-play-rob-manfred-cba-owners-ken-rosenthal-111716 The latest rumor to leak out of the CBA negotiations is that teams might get a 26th roster spot next year, something the union has been pushing for a while now - in exchange for drastically limiting September callups. Rosenthal says rosters might expand to only 28 in the final month, instead of letting everyone on the 40-man come up So basically Bochy gets an extra reliever to play matchups with all year, but he can't really go nuts in September anymore  Seriously though, September callups own, don't get rid of them please.
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tadashi posted:Twins have outrighted Trevor Plouffe. The depressing part is they probably could have traded him for something of value last offseason but nope, let's move Sano into the outfield instead. 
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I hope this means the new front office is going to burn the shack they inherited to the ground and lay the foundation for something new. It's going to be a weird off-season in Minneapolis. They've got a few pieces but literally all they've got is a few pieces.
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Albert's almost certainly getting to 600 HR next year and to 2000 RBI sometime in 2018.
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Intruder posted:I defied my wife tonight 
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Thom P. Tiers posted:Other baseball stats: Cabrera and Cano are gonna be interesting. Cabrera should be an absolute lock, he's 481 away and insanely consistent so should make it late 2019/early 2020. Cano is less certain, he's 790 away so he'll need to be productive for 5/7 of his remaining seasons (though I expect if he gets close he'll get enough playing time to make it). I don't know who's going to be next after those guys though, it might not happen again until Trout. Thom P. Tiers posted:Another edit: God drat Cabrera has gotten an MVP vote every single year he has played baseball my god. Somehow including his debut season in which he hit .268/.325/.468 over 87 games. Since then he's never had an OPS+ below 130 
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Julio Cruz posted:Cabrera and Cano are gonna be interesting. Cabrera should be an absolute lock, he's 481 away and insanely consistent so should make it late 2019/early 2020. Cano is less certain, he's 790 away so he'll need to be productive for 5/7 of his remaining seasons (though I expect if he gets close he'll get enough playing time to make it). I don't know who's going to be next after those guys though, it might not happen again until Trout. Altuve
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I was really hoping the Cubs would have picked up Cashner for like $6-7MM and let Bosio work his magic on him in the long relief/spot start role or maybe try to convert him to an 8th/9th inning guy but then I remembered how shallow the SP pool is this year and 10MM from Texas seems about right
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He's 2000 hits away lmao. That's not how 'locks' work.
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Paul Zuvella posted:He's 2000 hits away lmao. That's not how 'locks' work. The question was if somebody's going to do it before Trout (after Cano/Cabrera/Beltre/Pujols/Beltran), and Trout is further away than Altuve
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Poque posted:The question was if somebody's going to do it before Trout (after Cano/Cabrera/Beltre/Pujols/Beltran), and Trout is further away than Altuve Ya thats what I was responding to.
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Cardinals just gave Brett Cecil 4 years and $30M+. 
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He's really really good, doesn't cost a draft pick and probably the best reliever on the market after chapman/jansen/melancon.
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The only lefty in the Jays bullpen is Aaron Loup lol.
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Dale Ouise posted:The only lefty in the Jays bullpen is Aaron Loup lol. Yeah. Atkins/Shapiro gonna have to find a solution here.
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drat zack duke gettting hurt made that happen
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If Brett Cecil thought the Jays fans were too mean then hoooo boy.
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Hand Knit posted:Yeah. Atkins/Shapiro gonna have to find a solution here. Mattdormedysmullet.jpg
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Hand Knit posted:Yeah. Atkins/Shapiro gonna have to find a solution here. Between the lack of lefties and a tentative outfield of Upton/Pillar/Carrera AND a 1B/DH of Morales/Smoak, a single bead of sweat is starting to drop from my brow.
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I wouldn't worry, Atkins said he hasn't ruled out re-signing Saunders, so everything is fine. 
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Twin Cinema posted:Between the lack of lefties and a tentative outfield of Upton/Pillar/Carrera AND a 1B/DH of Morales/Smoak, a single bead of sweat is starting to drop from my brow. 
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Astros have outrighted Jon Singleton Their blackmail on him backfired
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Twin Cinema posted:Between the lack of lefties and a tentative outfield of Upton/Pillar/Carrera AND a 1B/DH of Morales/Smoak, a single bead of sweat is starting to drop from my brow. The WS window has closed, but 2017 should be an interesting season if only to answer the question "how far can Donaldson carry the team single-handedly?"
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So the White Sox are having a fire sale, and Detroit is looking to ship out some high-priced vets to cut payroll? AL Central is gonna be real bad next year. Tigers should get a nice haul for Kinsler and JD Martinez at least, if they really intend to trade them.
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Much like the Angels and Mike Trout, I don't see a scenario where the Sox can trade Chris Sale and not come out feeling ripped off.
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It sounds like the Cubs aren't really pushing to re-sign Chapman (thank god) or really pursuing after Jensen, so I wonder if they'll go back to having Rondon as the closer next year, or will try out Edwards?
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The Pussy Boss posted:AL Central is gonna be real bad next year. At least the Royals have Drew Butera.
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shadok posted:The WS window has closed, but 2017 should be an interesting season if only to answer the question "how far can Donaldson carry the team single-handedly?" They have a good chance to have one of if not the best rotation in baseball next year. The WS window shouldn't be closing this year, but if Atkins/Shapiro aren't going to replace Bats/Edwin/Cecil they should go ahead and trade Happ/Estrada.
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SourKraut posted:It sounds like the Cubs aren't really pushing to re-sign Chapman (thank god) or really pursuing after Jensen, so I wonder if they'll go back to having Rondon as the closer next year, or will try out Edwards? Sounds right, Theo has never been one to put a bunch of money into the bullpen. And $80m+ to Chapman is too risky considering once his fastball starts to go, so does he. Rondon was actually really good most of the year. I think that forearm injury messed him up and he was just never right coming back from it. I'd still feel better if they could bring in a nice setup man somehow but there are always bullpen arms available at the deadline.
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N: Tokyo fluff morning news show "Zip" had a Otani talk this on this morning. They were asking the local Hokkaido fans what they thought if Otani were to go to the MLB. It was very scientific they asked ten 20 something attractive girls 3 Questions. 1- Should he go to the MLB? 70% said yes 2- What position should He play? Most said Pitching, 2 said both and 2 said outfield. 3- What message would you give him? The Girl who they highlighted for this question said he should "Gambate" (頑張って)in the MLB. Meaning try your best, or a cheer for success. V:  He and his team have until Feb 1 to inform the commissioner of his intent to be posted. And He would make crazy money in this market. Right? also this morning show is cheese cake as hell look at their reporters 
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Much like the Angels and Mike Trout, I don't see a scenario where the Sox can trade Chris Sale and not come out feeling ripped off. Personally I think you'd be lucky to get just Sale for that package. This same article recommended Cleveland trade for Cutch though, which wouldn't exactly fix our centerfield defense.
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Hand Knit posted:They have a good chance to have one of if not the best rotation in baseball next year. ...really? Happ, Sanchez and Estrada all had ERAs more than 50 points under their FIPs this season, I'm not sure I'd bet on them being able to do that again next year. Plus now Dickey's gone they need a #5 and this is a terrible free agent class for starters.
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Niwrad posted:Sounds right, Theo has never been one to put a bunch of money into the bullpen. And $80m+ to Chapman is too risky considering once his fastball starts to go, so does he. Yeah Rondon was arguably right up there with Jansen/Chapman/Britton in terms of dominance to start the year. He didn't walk a single batter in his first 14 appearances/13 IP, and around early May I remember a story about how he was pitching so well (across an admittedly small sample) that he broke the FIP formula such that he was posting a negative FIP. Then the injuries cropped up and he just never got back on the wagon. I don't think there's harm in giving him another shot, particularly if it saves the Cubs $80-100m the year before we're going to lose Lackey & Arrieta. Meanwhile make Edwards a permanent bullpen fixture and hand the 7/8/9 innings to Strop/Edwards/Rondon respectively, and if Rondon is still blowing chunks give Edwards a whirl.
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Julio Cruz posted:...really? Happ, Sanchez and Estrada all had ERAs more than 50 points under their FIPs this season, I'm not sure I'd bet on them being able to do that again next year. Plus now Dickey's gone they need a #5 and this is a terrible free agent class for starters. I'm sure Shapiro and a Rogers exec will check at Costco for a new pitcher.
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I feel like the Royals position with greinke a few years ago was comparable to sale and the sox; the Royals really made the most of that trade even if it seemed a bit lopsided at the time. surely some team out there could offer a decent package for sale?
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Niwrad posted:Sounds right, Theo has never been one to put a bunch of money into the bullpen. And $80m+ to Chapman is too risky considering once his fastball starts to go, so does he. Sydin posted:Yeah Rondon was arguably right up there with Jansen/Chapman/Britton in terms of dominance to start the year. He didn't walk a single batter in his first 14 appearances/13 IP, and around early May I remember a story about how he was pitching so well (across an admittedly small sample) that he broke the FIP formula such that he was posting a negative FIP. Then the injuries cropped up and he just never got back on the wagon. I don't think there's harm in giving him another shot, particularly if it saves the Cubs $80-100m the year before we're going to lose Lackey & Arrieta. Meanwhile make Edwards a permanent bullpen fixture and hand the 7/8/9 innings to Strop/Edwards/Rondon respectively, and if Rondon is still blowing chunks give Edwards a whirl. Even if Chapman could keep it up, I want him off the team. I was just hoping they'd look heavily at Jansen, but I'd be ok with Rondon getting another shot while Edwards is now a permanent member of the bullpen.
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Julio Cruz posted:...really? Happ, Sanchez and Estrada all had ERAs more than 50 points under their FIPs this season, I'm not sure I'd bet on them being able to do that again next year. Plus now Dickey's gone they need a #5 and this is a terrible free agent class for starters. Liriano will be the #5, no? Sanchez Estrada Happ Stroman Liriano? He should do better than Dickey did last season I would hope. I also think Stroman will have a better year than last and wouldn't be surprised if Sanchez did too. Estrada and Happ might regress but I could see them being around as effective as they were this year. Who knows though.
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