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A real strong statement.  Especially since you didn't vote for it at the time. Seems more like you were floating the Moat idea and seeing if anyone would go for it before you voted for it yourself.
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K, I'm going to take a break for a bit. I don't really want to deal with having everything I say get stretched into a "Max is obv scum" argument. I suddenly understand why chores doesn't like to post much.
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The case being put forward right now is that two people are scum? Because...? They argued? I really don't have time to argue against a case literally pulled out of thin air and am fine with where my vote is. I won't even change it if it means I get cuddled instead of someone else, so if you're voting for me you may as well keep doing it.
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Ernie, do you believe that all 5 of the people who voted for you on D1 are town? Why do you not seem interested in untangling that knot?
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Because I have no interest in pretending like I could do it. Just like I have no interest in pretending I can figure out if there are scum voting for me right now.
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What do you want me to say "x is scum because they voted for me. Y wasn't even though they did the same drat thing"?
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Figuring out who is scum is the whole point of the game. Surely, if you're town, you think that one of the 5 who voted you has to be scum. Hell, there's only 4 of them left alive now, so it's an easier choice. You must have some thoughts about who made an insincere vote on you, right?
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Nov 20, 2016 23:07
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Max posted:Because this is a poo poo argument. It's a dishonest argument. It's one the TMM from 48 hours ago would have had no problems pointing out as silly, but is being willfully obtuse now.
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TMMadman posted:Figuring out who is scum is the whole point of the game. Surely, if you're town, you think that one of the 5 who voted you has to be scum. Hell, there's only 4 of them left alive now, so it's an easier choice. Like this post the only reason it exists is so that TMM sounds like he's engaging in conversation. The motivation of the post isn't to argue or scum hunt or anything. It's just TMM wanting to appear like they have a townie mindset.
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Nov 20, 2016 23:09
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There's greater depth to posting and reasoning, ern You're the only one that has the benefit of your confirmed alignment to discern motive
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Nov 20, 2016 23:15
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I'd really like to hear from Tired. And I'd like Asiina post something that isn't an excuse for not posting. Also, has stickup said anything today?
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Nov 20, 2016 23:46
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chances asii's scum replacing out?
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Nov 20, 2016 23:51
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If so she must really not get along with her scumbros
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Nov 20, 2016 23:57
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And just FYI, I'd vote Ernie before I voted Moat today.
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Nov 20, 2016 23:59
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TMMadman posted:And just FYI, I'd vote Ernie before I voted Moat today. Aw youre a dear
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I'm tempted to move my vote to Ernie now, but I'd really prefer to lynch Max first.
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Moatillata posted:I would vote ernie over max Ernies defense of himself did nothing to change this opinion
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Moatillata posted:If so she must really not get along with her scumbros I think she just doesn't like to play scum. IIRC it's happened before. ##unvote ##vote asii unless I'm mistaken
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Nov 21, 2016 00:04
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Hmm
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I feel that. ##unvote ##vote asiina
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Why are you voting Asiina when we have two good targets in Max/Ernie? Both of them have said enough that flipping them would give us a much better idea of the alignments of other people. On the other hand, while Asiina may be scum, flipping her doesn't give us anything to use tomorrow. And if she does end up flipping town, then we're even more screwed.
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TMMadman posted:Why are you voting Asiina when we have two good targets in Max/Ernie? Bc she's a super easy push hmmm
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Moatillata posted:Bc she's a super easy push hmmm Yeah, it's really weird. Hell, you're a better lynch target than Asiina at this point. And this is coming from someone who does advocate for lynching lurkers.
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Nov 21, 2016 00:18
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Moatillata posted:Bc she's a super easy push hmmm 
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Nov 21, 2016 00:18
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I'd switch to Ernie. later tonight if necessary, but Asiina feels like scum in my bones and I have to listen to Jonathan Fisk since he listened to me when I pushed a town mislynch.
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got some chores tonight posted:I'd switch to Ernie. later tonight if necessary, but Asiina feels like scum in my bones and I have to listen to Jonathan Fisk since he listened to me when I pushed a town mislynch. But again, we don't get any real useful information even if Asiina is scum. At this point, flipping either Max or Ernie should give us a better idea of the other persons alignment. I mean I'm all for lynching lurkers most of the time, but this doesn't seem like a good spot to do it.
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Nov 21, 2016 00:23
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ernie.
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This just feels like people deliberately ignoring the biggest thing in the game right now to push a lurker instead.
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Chores fisk axis.....of evil??
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TMMadman posted:But again, we don't get any real useful information even if Asiina is scum. At this point, flipping either Max or Ernie should give us a better idea of the other persons alignment. If Ernie. flips town, is Max townier or scummier? If Ernie. flips scum, is Max townier or scummier?
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i'm voting for my strongest scum read tyvm
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but... information! is a trash argument for when you can't makea case btw
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Nov 21, 2016 00:27
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Jonathan Fisk posted:but... information! is a trash argument for when you can't makea case btw I have made a case against Max.
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Nov 21, 2016 00:28
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TMMadman posted:I have made a case against Max. excuse me, a good and/or compelling case
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TMMadman posted:I have made a case against Max. Most of your case rests on the idea that Ernie and I are scum together, which you don't know because neither of us has flipped. I'm quite aware of the fact that you are pushing a narrative where only Ernie or myself are the logical choices today and I think it's pretty horseshit, especially because I think I'm in a position where I literally cannot convince you otherwise and I'm still leaning town on you, so it's super frustrating. TBH while I don't want to be lunched tonight, I think Asiina should just replace out rather than be the lunch target and I'm not super happy with the push on her. TMM, feel free to decide that Asiina must be my other scum buddy because of that statement.
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Jonathan Fisk posted:excuse me, a good and/or compelling case Nobody else is making any sort of case. Hell, you're case on Asiina is entirely: Jonathan Fisk posted:I think she just doesn't like to play scum. IIRC it's happened before. On the other hand, I think Max is being disingenuous in his posting. He isn't actually trying to make cases and instead he's just jumping on to other peoples arguments. I've shown examples of these actions.
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Nov 21, 2016 00:34
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I didn't case asiina, and probably couldn't if i tried
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nevertheless, I believe there is a high likelihood of her being scum
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Max posted:Most of your case rests on the idea that Ernie and I are scum together, which you don't know because neither of us has flipped. This is bullshit. Most of my case doesn't rest on the idea that you are Ernie are scum together. Most of it is based on the way you've been posting. You've been posting a lot, but you aren't actually making cases. You're just agreeing with people and using them as cover, particularly me. Just because I believe that you are scum with Ernie, don't try to paint it as that's the entirety of my case.
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TMMadman posted:This is bullshit. Most of my case doesn't rest on the idea that you are Ernie are scum together. OK.
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