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GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
I'm glad I decided to complete my living pokedex in ORAS and not this one, because man the call for help system can be annoying as gently caress. Thank God I only have to catch the new Pokemon and Alola forms to complete my set.

I feel like in terms of flavor and storyline, this is a big step up from the blandness of Gen 6, but for the most part, gameplay has taken a step down. I.E. you can only do online stuff in the festival plaza, and the QR scanning thing doesn't sound nearly as good as friend safari or mirage spots. That said, I think Z-moves are a better mechanic than Mega Evolutions as any Pokemon can use them, although I wish I could press start and skip the long animations without having to turn off all battle animations.

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Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Stoutland Search is insanely annoying to use. Will I miss anything important by not using it at all? I don't care for potions and such, thinking more about TMs.

Hey Fingercuffs
Nov 29, 2007

Yo baby, you ever had your asshole licked by a fat man in an overcoat?
So some story questions between Islands 2 & 3

I accidentally murdered the UB that shows up in the Aether Base. Did I just miss my shot at this UB or was it uncatchable to begin with.

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe

Machai posted:

I got one, so yes.

How does the difference between traditional and simplified work? Can you see pokedex entry for both, or are they treated as totally separate languages?

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013

Hey Fingercuffs posted:

So some story questions between Islands 2 & 3

I accidentally murdered the UB that shows up in the Aether Base. Did I just miss my shot at this UB or was it uncatchable to begin with.

Uncatchable. You can't throw balls in the conservation area.

El Burbo
Oct 10, 2012

Vegetable posted:

Stoutland Search is insanely annoying to use. Will I miss anything important by not using it at all? I don't care for potions and such, thinking more about TMs.

It's not really that annoying. Just register him to the d-pad and spin in a circle whenever you suspect there's something hidden to check for "!"

Hey Fingercuffs
Nov 29, 2007

Yo baby, you ever had your asshole licked by a fat man in an overcoat?

Solumin posted:

Uncatchable. You can't throw balls in the conservation area.

Thank you thats a huge weight off my shoulders.

Also at some point today I'm going to start breeding Passimians for anyone who wants one without trying to hit it's abysmal spawn rate.

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

OK I'm confused now. Dr. Fetus said that a bug made evolving mons with non-full movesets get relearner moves instead of level moves. Other people came up with data points to disprove him. Now I have a Hakamo-o that's just evolved and learned Sky Uppercut. I'm not complaining, but :psyduck:.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...

El Burbo posted:

It's not really that annoying. Just register him to the d-pad and spin in a circle whenever you suspect there's something hidden to check for "!"

You can pick up items without searching so why bother

Waffles Inc.
Jan 20, 2005

Holy moly the Battle Tree does not fuckin' play

Tried using the same team I'm 10-0 with on the Battle Spot and it got absurdly roflstomped

:aaaaa:

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Is there anything to breeding other than leaving my croconaw with a male pokemon she can breed with (help here would be appreciated) and just running around in circles until they produce an organic egg-shaped cradle for their adoptive child of the same species as the mother?

Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012

Calaveron posted:

Is there anything to breeding other than leaving my croconaw with a male pokemon she can breed with (help here would be appreciated) and just running around in circles until they produce an organic egg-shaped cradle for their adoptive child of the same species as the mother?

a lot but it doesn't matter

use a ditto

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

Calaveron posted:

(help here would be appreciated)
I'll leave the rest to people who know better, but you can see here that it's in the Egg Groups Monster and Water 1, so it can breed with any other Pokemon in those groups.

AlphaKretin fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Nov 22, 2016

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
No but I mean just for producing totodiles to throw in the gts to get cool things or to share with you friends

Waffles Inc.
Jan 20, 2005

Calaveron posted:

Is there anything to breeding other than leaving my croconaw with a male pokemon she can breed with (help here would be appreciated) and just running around in circles until they produce an organic egg-shaped cradle for their adoptive child of the same species as the mother?

They both need to be in the same egg group

http://www.serebii.net/pokemon_advance/egg-group.shtml

If they are, put 'em both in the daycare and run around, you'll see the gal outside the place cross her arms--that means there's an egg of the same species as the mother

Your life will be 100% easier when you get a ditto. Whatever you put in with a Ditto comes out as the non-ditto.

Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012

Ruggington posted:

use a ditto

Forsythia
Jan 28, 2007

You want bad advice?

Anything is okay if you don't get caught!

... I hope this helps!
I clawed my way to the endgame, and I'm absolutely thrilled at the feature I earned at the battle tree. You can finally browse all of your Pokémon's IVs directly from the PC, with both descriptive text and a graphic showing the stat spread. It's everything I've ever wanted... :swoon: It's unobtrusive for players that don't need it or want to see it, but easy to toggle on for those that do want to see it. Browsing the potential of your Pokémon is now quick and convenient.

I didn't think they'd actually go and do it. Glad to see I was wrong.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Where are dittos

Pyroi
Aug 17, 2013

gay elf noises

Calaveron posted:

Where are dittos

The mountain on the third island with the Observatory on top, instead of taking the bus down, walk down. There are Ditto in the grass there.

Waffles Inc.
Jan 20, 2005

Calaveron posted:

Where are dittos

Mount Hakulani

guts and bolts
May 16, 2015

Have you heard the Good News?
Is there some trick to catching Pokemon with Natures/Abilities you want, because so far that's what's killing my interest

I've caught, no joke, like 50+ Rockruff in the wild hoping to get a Nature that boosts Attack (preferably something like Adamant) and has the Vital Spirit ability, and I've never even come close, and it's making me lose interest - like, I'd even accept Lonely or Brave or Naughty, but all I ever seem to get is Keen Eye and Timid and I just do not loving want that :/

The Golden Gael
Nov 12, 2011

EclecticTastes posted:

He was the Dark-type specialist and I completely forgot who he was until just now. The Unova E4 is easily the least memorable in the franchise, likely because they're basically an afterthought, your first bout with them is deliberately made easier as prelude to N's Castle, and your "official" battles with them are all technically post-game.

God no. The XY Elite Four was horrible - Malva was the only one who was at all interesting, the other three have about the same characterization as the Gen I Elite Four before remakes and the anime fleshed them out. The Unova one was at least cool because you meet Marshall beforehand, Caitlin was a surprise cameo from P/HGSS, and the book girl always said something new when you fought her. Grimsley I remember for his gambler persona. I couldn't tell you poo poo about the Kalos one on the other hand - I basically remember Malva because she was Team Flare, and the knight guy only because he's super goony and talks very chivalrously. He's one step removed from calling my in-game character "m'lady".

Forsythia
Jan 28, 2007

You want bad advice?

Anything is okay if you don't get caught!

... I hope this helps!

guts and bolts posted:

Is there some trick to catching Pokemon with Natures/Abilities you want, because so far that's what's killing my interest

Yes! The Synchronize ability can make it much more likely to find the specific nature of its user. (Like a modest Espeon in party slot 1 makes wild Pokémon very likely to be modest natured.) If you're having tons of trouble, though, a goon could hook you up with a hatched one. Maybe even me, if you're interested?

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

guts and bolts posted:

Is there some trick to catching Pokemon with Natures/Abilities you want, because so far that's what's killing my interest

I've caught, no joke, like 50+ Rockruff in the wild hoping to get a Nature that boosts Attack (preferably something like Adamant) and has the Vital Spirit ability, and I've never even come close, and it's making me lose interest - like, I'd even accept Lonely or Brave or Naughty, but all I ever seem to get is Keen Eye and Timid and I just do not loving want that :/

try this guide

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




The giant handicapable seat on Lapras combined with all the safety gear feels like such a downgrade from barely hanging on to Sharpedo's dorsal fin for dear life

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Took a look at GTS for the first time and wow you can filter it so that the only trades that show up are the ones requesting Pokemon you have in your box. Granted when I did this looking for a Granbull there was nothing left after, but it's still nice.

Raserys
Aug 22, 2011

IT'S YA BOY
in this game can you pet pokemon after battle like in x/y? pikachu looks at me expectantly and i want to be able to congratulate her on her kill

kojei
Feb 12, 2008

Raserys posted:

in this game can you pet pokemon after battle like in x/y? pikachu looks at me expectantly and i want to be able to congratulate her on her kill

Not only can you pet them, you can brush their fur and dry them off after they get hydro pumped and poo poo.

MinionOfCthulhu
Oct 28, 2005

I got this title for free due to my proximity to an idiot who wanted to save $5 on an avatar by having someone else spend $9.95 instead.
Ha haaa gently caress the water totem. He called an Amolamola and it just kept healing him to full. :saddowns:

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

EclecticTastes posted:

Gen V is basically the Team Skull Berry Thieves except for a whole game.

What does this even mean? Gen V is cool, good, and funny? (Agreed.) Team Plasma is incompetent and ineffectual (when you just mentioned N's Castle)? That every character in the game with some of the best rivals in the series, gym leaders who come back in the end game to save your rear end, and the aforementioned Team Plasma is unmemorable? :confused:

Raserys
Aug 22, 2011

IT'S YA BOY

kojei posted:

Not only can you pet them, you can brush their fur and dry them off after they get hydro pumped and poo poo.

i know you can go into pokemon refresh, but in x/y you could give them a good pet immediately after knocking out a pokemon by like, rubbing the screen when they look back at you i think

guts and bolts
May 16, 2015

Have you heard the Good News?

Oh wow very helpful bro

I mean, I'm not saying I'm "due" to get what I want - I understand that every Pokémon is "rolled" individually, you're not "due" for a heads result on a coin flip just because you've seen more tails results - but if there's really no method you can use to affect the outcome, I think I'm just going to trade the game in, because that isn't fun

I've killed hundreds of Roggenrolas, Machops, Spindas, Carbinks, and Sableyes just to even get the chance to catch a Rockruff and they're all universally pretty lovely, which, yep, is pretty frustrating

Mizuti posted:

Yes! The Synchronize ability can make it much more likely to find the specific nature of its user. (Like a modest Espeon in party slot 1 makes wild Pokémon very likely to be modest natured.) If you're having tons of trouble, though, a goon could hook you up with a hatched one. Maybe even me, if you're interested?

This is genuinely helpful, and I'll try the Synchronize thing because I have a Brave Abra that has Synchronize? I think? And if that straight up fails me I'll likely ask for your help with a hatched one, that sounds dope

Forsythia
Jan 28, 2007

You want bad advice?

Anything is okay if you don't get caught!

... I hope this helps!

guts and bolts posted:

This is genuinely helpful, and I'll try the Synchronize thing because I have a Brave Abra that has Synchronize? I think? And if that straight up fails me I'll likely ask for your help with a hatched one, that sounds dope

I'm about to start hatching some now. My friend code is 5086-1559-1599.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Raserys posted:

i know you can go into pokemon refresh, but in x/y you could give them a good pet immediately after knocking out a pokemon by like, rubbing the screen when they look back at you i think

I think I saw a post that said you can do this.

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

guts and bolts posted:

Oh wow very helpful bro

girl but you're welcome. wikipedia actually has a lot of interesting stuff on it, i used to think it was just like. tables of optimal bitcoin rigs. try the random page, you might be surprised

Blaziken386
Jun 27, 2013

I'm what the kids call: a big nerd

Nemo07 posted:

Ah, so just put him right next to Marowak in the "Looks cool but basically useless in the main story" category.
Thick Club is a thing that exists, friend.
Also, I just got to Aether Paradis and what the heck is up with Faba's outfit.

e: Spoiler? I know they're probably completely evil from the opening, but everything about the Aether foundation just feels creepy.

someone awful.
Sep 7, 2007


Raserys posted:

i know you can go into pokemon refresh, but in x/y you could give them a good pet immediately after knocking out a pokemon by like, rubbing the screen when they look back at you i think

If a pokemon gets hit by, or uses, certain moves that make it unpretty a "go to pokemon refresh" toggle will show up after the battle. It also does if you get a status effect, because you can cure those in Refresh too

It's not every battle but it's pretty drat common. Like every time my Dugtrio would use Magnitude in a battle I'd get to do Refresh after to wipe the dirt off its face(s)

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Totem Wishiwashi is a fuckhead.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Someone asked earlier and didn't get a answer so asking again as I kinda wanna know too.

I'm in the postgame, credits have rolled and I have a few boxes filled with Stage 1 mons. Where's the best place to just cart them around for exp so I can fill out my dex a bit more?

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Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

The Golden Gael posted:

God no. The XY Elite Four was horrible - Malva was the only one who was at all interesting, the other three have about the same characterization as the Gen I Elite Four before remakes and the anime fleshed them out. The Unova one was at least cool because you meet Marshall beforehand, Caitlin was a surprise cameo from P/HGSS, and the book girl always said something new when you fought her. Grimsley I remember for his gambler persona. I couldn't tell you poo poo about the Kalos one on the other hand - I basically remember Malva because she was Team Flare, and the knight guy only because he's super goony and talks very chivalrously. He's one step removed from calling my in-game character "m'lady".

Can't believe you'd forget Siebold, the pissed off water chef with the nasty Clawitzer, Drasna the sweet old dragon lady and Wikstrom, the guy who speaks like he's from the 15th century. And if he did say "m'lady", it would be 100% sincere and very cool and respectful.

The four of them combined is also a story about slaying a dragon and reaching the princess Champion. Like come on! But I also agree they were very unmemorable, mainly because they were some of the more recent games and you haven't played them over and over again like with other generations. The nostalgia meter has now reached the 4th generation, so a lot of people think it was pretty cool, but they don't remember much about it.

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