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Now I'm confused what's this then? https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201379330 quote:You can upgrade your Amazon Music storage plan, so that you can store up to 250,000 imported songs in supported file types.
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:Also in smarthome deals, one of the Alexa deals today is a "works with Alexa" TP Link smart plug for $17.50 instead of $30.
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Pissflaps posted:Now I'm confused what's this then? (at least in america) - Amazon Music Storage. This is the one where you can upload your music into their cloud for use on the Echo. Max 250,000 songs for $24.99/year - Amazon Unlimited. This is Amazon's spotify clone. $7.99 a month. It does not include Music Storage. - Amazon Drive Unlimited Storage. This is what WithoutTheFezOn was talking about. $60 a year to put whatever you want into their cloud. It does not include Music Storage. You could upload your MP3s for backup but you couldn't access them on your Echo or through the Amazon Music app. Yeah. It's stupid and confusing. Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Nov 28, 2016 |
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If you get a "works with Alexa" plug and have some lights through a hub, say, can you build a scene that controls all of them at once?
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Subjunctive posted:If you get a "works with Alexa" plug and have some lights through a hub, say, can you build a scene that controls all of them at once? If you read the last page I'm not having luck with hue scenes and Alexa, but I assume if scenes work for you, you can put a scene into the group (since Alexa sees scenes as devices).
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I got this for free (echo) for upselling subscriptions at work, and now I want to get an echo dot for the living room/bedroom and bathroom. It's not even that good, but it's cool I guess.
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Chinese Company Reveals Amazon Echo Competitor 'LingLong DingDong'
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Call Me Charlie posted:Logitech Harmony Hub with simple remote is down to $69.99 on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BQ5RYI4//ref=as_li_ss_tl?&linkCode=ll1&tag=evdaisafi-20&linkId=9f5e17a998621d292c7581424afdf4f1 Just gonna say, the "simple remote" is a really good remote. It's missing home automation things of the companion but the physical buttons are top notch and the fact that it has numbers puts it well above the much more expensive models.
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RevKrule posted:Just gonna say, the "simple remote" is a really good remote. It's missing home automation things of the companion but the physical buttons are top notch and the fact that it has numbers puts it well above the much more expensive models. Agree, the "simple" remote is a really good remote, unless you need to control a shitload of activities get it. Sometimes simple is good, in this case it means it has physical buttons for everything and works exactly as you expect. Side note, anyone using Echo side by side with Google Home? I was planning on buying Echo dots for my house but I bought a Google Home and impulsively and found out I am getting one for Christmas so I bought Chromecast audios for the rest of my speakers. I've used Alexa sparingly though my Fire TV voice remote and I have found that Google Home works tons better. I mean the only conceivable thing that I think I would use Alexa over Google Home is ordering stuff off of Amazon and I have an Amazon Dash scanner in my kitchen for that.
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Three Olives posted:Side note, anyone using Echo side by side with Google Home? I was planning on buying Echo dots for my house but I bought a Google Home and impulsively and found out I am getting one for Christmas so I bought Chromecast audios for the rest of my speakers. I have both, I tend to use the Google Home more but that may just be a placement thing (Alexa in the kitchen, Home in my living room). Home is more convenient for me since I use Google Music already. I do like ordering things via Alexa though, and occasionally having it read Audible books to me while I do cook / do dishes.
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Glimm posted:I have both, I tend to use the Google Home more but that may just be a placement thing (Alexa in the kitchen, Home in my living room). Home is more convenient for me since I use Google Music already. I do like ordering things via Alexa though, and occasionally having it read Audible books to me while I do cook / do dishes. Actually that is one of my major driving features, I am incredibly happy with Google Music and $400 seems like an incredibly cheap price for a whole house music system. Google Dots would be cheaper but I would have to switch off Google Music and the overall feature set seems worse, like being able to Google Cast to all the devices in my house including the Google Homes.
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Three Olives posted:Actually that is one of my major driving features, I am incredibly happy with Google Music and $400 seems like an incredibly cheap price for a whole house music system. Google Dots would be cheaper but I would have to switch off Google Music and the overall feature set seems worse, like being able to Google Cast to all the devices in my house including the Google Homes. That's a feature you know that Amazon has to working on. My Fire TVs and my tablet already show in the alexa app (even though I can't remotely control them yet) But like everything regarding this, it all depends on what ecosystem you're in. Use alot of google poo poo, you'll love google's hardware. Use alot of amazon poo poo, you'll love amazon's hardware. Use alot of apple poo poo and you can ask novelty questions to siri  On a serious note, if you have a Echo, you absolutely need to pay the $25 and upload all your music to their cloud. It makes it so much more useful. Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Nov 29, 2016 |
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So this morning, with no changes or actions on my part, no power cycles or reboots or anything, using Alexa to control Hue scenes just started working. Go figure.
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quote:Amazon’s next Alexa-enabled device will likely be a premium speaker with a 7-inch touchscreen, according to Bloomberg. The new product will have an array of always listening microphones, like the Amazon Echo, for hands-free voice functionality. The speakers themselves will be better sounding than the ones in the Echo and the new device will run an optimized version of Fire OS. I wonder if this is the long rumored Kitchen model they've been working on forever. http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-is-making-a-premium-echo-with-7-inch-touchscreen-running-fire-os/
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Subjunctive posted:Firmware update? On a different note, in my Alexa app under devices it now shows "<name>'s 2nd Echo Dot". They just shipped my second one today, so I guess they automatically link it by default? That would be handy, except this new one is going to be a Christmas gift (I see the "Deregister" button).
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:No idea. Those are silent, I assume? The Alexa app tells me the Dot software version is 564186420 and the Amazon web page says the current version is 561179520. No idea what version it was yesterday. Yeah I just ordered two more echo dots over the holiday weekend and they showed up in the Alexa app not long after I placed my order. Pretty handy, and they're relatively easy to get off your account.
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Protip: if you mark the order as a gift while checking out, it won't register the device to your account.
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Call Me Charlie posted:Protip: if you mark the order as a gift while checking out, it won't register the device to your account. No ordering process should be that intelligent. It just ain't proper. Actually it's probably an indication they are making WAY too much money it'd they have resources for more than just cashing checks and shipping goods.
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porkface posted:No ordering process should be that intelligent. It just ain't proper. Guess you missed the past number of years where they've been creating devices and content then. Amazon is more than an ecommerce site now 
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Got two dots yesterday to add to my original big Echo and I'm very happy with them already. Like others mentioned they were added to my alexa account before they had arrived and setup for both of them only took like five minutes. The ESL feature seems to work really well as I tested it from lots of different vantage points between the two closest units and the correct one always responded. These things just need to become location aware for default tasks like turning on lights or tv equipment and I will buy one for every room in the house. I don't want to have to say bedroom lights off when I'm talking to my bedroom echo, so hopefully this is the next big thing they work on. I will probably also get whatever kitchen model they produce because as much as I love my echo for timers and measurements, it would be ten times better if it would also display the information on a screen so I can look at it again 30 second later, after I forgot what she said.
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housefly posted:Guess you missed the past number of years where they've been creating devices and content then. Amazon is more than an ecommerce site now There's a solid argument to be made that Amazon is a cloud services company that happens to also have an ecommerce subsidiary.
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SpaceCadetBob posted:I will probably also get whatever kitchen model they produce because as much as I love my echo for timers and measurements, it would be ten times better if it would also display the information on a screen so I can look at it again 30 second later, after I forgot what she said. You can already do this with their $50 tablet and voicecast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHDjwrUvXnM
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MrYenko posted:There's a solid argument to be made that Amazon is a cloud services company that happens to also have an ecommerce subsidiary.
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Call Me Charlie posted:You can already do this with their $50 tablet and voicecast. Funny enough I got one of their tablets on BF for $35. I was just starting to play with this functionality last night, but when I setup a timer all it did was show that I had started a timer but didn't show it counting down. Guess I'll have to play with it a bit more to see if this really meets my needs.
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Can someone confirm/deny that you can now use Alexa and a Harmony hub without a Smartthings hub in between? I'm pretty sure you guys used to say you needed the ST, but it seems they may have changed that about a month ago?
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:Can someone confirm/deny that you can now use Alexa and a Harmony hub without a Smartthings hub in between? I'm pretty sure you guys used to say you needed the ST, but it seems they may have changed that about a month ago? I've always had trouble getting harmony activities to actually work, so that's my obstacle for now, sadly.
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MrYenko posted:There's a solid argument to be made that Amazon is a cloud services company that happens to also have an ecommerce subsidiary. Just this week they announced a service to generate text to speech, and one for building chat bots, and also one for doing image recognition. So even if their products aren't a huge success they can market the back end services.
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:Can someone confirm/deny that you can now use Alexa and a Harmony hub without a Smartthings hub in between? I'm pretty sure you guys used to say you needed the ST, but it seems they may have changed that about a month ago? I do not own a Smartthings hub and I can tell my Alexa to perform my Harmony activities just fine. About a month ago things changed and it works out of the box if you're using the Harmony skill (just like Hue lightbulbs). Prior to the change a month or so ago, I had to use IFTTT to make it work. Prior to a month ago I said this (my harmony activity is called "tv"): Alexa, trigger tv (trigger is the IFTTT skill trigger word) After the change I say this: Alexa, turn on tv Basically it recognizes an activity as a device I guess. Because I can also say "Alexa, turn on sink" and she turns on the light above my kitchen sink which is listed as a device.
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Alright, thanks for the confirmation. Was hoping to avoid an extra hub, but figured I'd check before the ST $50 sale ended. On a side note, my wife is absolutely giddy about the Dot/speaker/Hue setup we installed last week (and even went from "Who needs to listen to music" to "sign me up for Amazon Music Unlimited"). Tonight she's going to flip when (hopefully) the TP Link plug lets her say "Alexa, turn on the Christmas tree". And next week if she can just say "Alexa turn on/off the TV" my standing as Awesome Man will be cemented. For a while, at least.
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This is a dumb product and I don't know how it made it this far. The only place this makes sense is a bedroom nightstand and you don't need two Alexa devices and who buys a super unique table lamp and doesn't want a matched pair? And the thing is, it doesn't have to be bad, it could have been a fully integrated Alexa device, color temps for reading or simulated sunrise wake up, instead it is a big giant dumb expensive Echo for no apparent reason.
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Nice, good idea actually. Alexa, play booty music.
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Three Olives posted:This is a dumb product and I don't know how it made it this far. The only place this makes sense is a bedroom nightstand and you don't need two Alexa devices and who buys a super unique table lamp and doesn't want a matched pair? Good point about wanting matching lights. If this thing is cheap enough it may be a good product. Especially if they sell a matching one that doesn't have Alexa.
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Almost a good idea.Three Olives posted:The only place this makes sense is a bedroom nightstand
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I've been tempted to pick up a Dot since it's only £50, but it seems that the Google Home is far better at answering questions and being intelligent than Amazon? I think if I were to buy one of these things I'd like it for the ability to not just ask for radio/music etc, but also the ability to ask general knowledge questions and get back results. Should I get a Home instead then?
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WMain00 posted:I've been tempted to pick up a Dot since it's only £50, but it seems that the Google Home is far better at answering questions and being intelligent than Amazon? I think it really depends on what you mean by questions. The wikipedia feature is good, you can ask it random trivia questions, sports scores, weather, basic questions, ask for a audio flash briefing. Outside of that, it's kinda dumb compared to Google Home (from what I read) If that's the only reason you want one, I'd pass all together. You won't get much use out of it after the shiny toy period wears off. My everyday use of the Echo is much more mundane. Set a timer, play some music, spell this word, turn on a light. It does have a Jeopardy skill which I always use to show off to guests.
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Is there even a Home release date for the UK? I'd get the Dot now you might be waiting a while and you can always use it in another room if you get a Home in the future.
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Hmmm, good point. Could be ages yet before Google gets round to it and at least the Dot is cheap. I'd probably buy some Hue lights later if I'm enjoying it. Would like to know when IFTTT is coming out to UK, but I suppose its possible to work around that from what I'm reading on Google.
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