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Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Woooo black friday. Sold 6 Gaggia Classics in one day and it's not even the weekend yet. I'm surprised the Silvias aren't moving more but there is a bit of a price jump.

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kim jong-illin
May 2, 2011

emotive posted:

I think I give up on trying to make french press. No matter what I do, it comes out very... meh.

Using 1:16 ratio, grinding coarse, stirring after a minute to settle the beans, steeping for 6.

I think a lot of it is my grinder -- I'm grinding on the coarsest setting, but it ends up being a mix of super fine grind and big chunks... not very consistent at all. Do you guys agree?

Inconsistent grind hurts a french press a lot because all those fines will overextract badly during that prolonged steep.

If your grinder can't grind consistently coarse enough then you can either go for a finer grind where it's more consistent and just shorten your steep time accordingly or you can sieve the grinds and discard the fines. The former's the easiest option: I don't use my french press often but, when I do, I use the same grind as I use for V60 and only steep for 3-ish mins.

emotive
Dec 26, 2006

sex swing from IKEA posted:

I had that cuisinart and hated it-I can't remember the grind quality but that fucker was so loud.

I have that grinder and that's the one I mentioned in my post above. Grind seems very inconsistent and it's definitely loud. Also, any small amount of beans just tend to bounce around in the hopper.

bizwank
Oct 4, 2002

emotive posted:

I have that grinder and that's the one I mentioned in my post above. Grind seems very inconsistent and it's definitely loud. Also, any small amount of beans just tend to bounce around in the hopper.
Wow that's the same one I just watched my sister-in-law use, noisy as hell and she only put a handful of beans in so it took forever to actually snag and grind them all, and her press was full of fines. I know what she's getting for xmas this year.

Your grinder is not where you should be pinching pennies. If you want good coffee at home you have to buy good equipment.

emotive
Dec 26, 2006

kim jong-illin posted:

Inconsistent grind hurts a french press a lot because all those fines will overextract badly during that prolonged steep.

If your grinder can't grind consistently coarse enough then you can either go for a finer grind where it's more consistent and just shorten your steep time accordingly or you can sieve the grinds and discard the fines. The former's the easiest option: I don't use my french press often but, when I do, I use the same grind as I use for V60 and only steep for 3-ish mins.

Changed to a medium grind and steeped for 3 minutes... came out much better. Maybe I'll invest in a good hand grinder since I never really make big batches.

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004
Echoing the spend the money on the Capresso sentiment. That's really the go to entry level grinder, even though the price doesn't sound entry level at first. If you are the US, snag a Bed Bath and Beyond 20% off coupon and use that. Solid $80 well spent.

SweetBro
May 12, 2014

Did you read that sister?
Yes, truly a shitposter's post. I read it, Rem.
What's the optimal grind size for siphon coffee?

Also should I worried about damaging the glass of my siphon if I crank up my butane burner to high when getting the water to a boil?

bondetamp
Aug 8, 2011

Could you have been born, Richardson? And not egg-hatched as I've always assumed? Did your mother hover over you, snaggle-toothed and doting as you now hover over me?
As I understand it, glass is mainly vulnerable to sudden temperature changes, and as long as you have water in the chamber it will take most of it.

I saw someone heat water in a thin disposable plastic cup over a butane burner. Due to the water inside, the plastic never reached a temperature where it caught fire.

Still, you can save quite some time by heating the water in a kettle first.

TheDarkFlame
May 4, 2013

You tell me I didn't build that?

I'll have you know I worked my fingers to the bone to get where I am today.
Question about cafetiere coffee, or rather, cleaning up: My flatmate seems to think that basically any amount of coffee grounds will clog our pipes, and I don't blame him for thinking that because we live in a cheap flat on the 5th-storey of a lovely concrete block that was meant to be cheap (and possibly temporary?) naval accommodation when it was built like 50+ years ago. But I admit I don't actually know how big a deal is it, and I've never thought to throw the entire contents of a used cafetiere down the sink to find out. So is this a big deal, and what's the best way to clean a cafetiere? I quite like being able to make a good flask of coffee before work and if I can do so without pissing off my flatmate then so much better.

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

TheDarkFlame posted:

Question about cafetiere coffee, or rather, cleaning up: My flatmate seems to think that basically any amount of coffee grounds will clog our pipes, and I don't blame him for thinking that because we live in a cheap flat on the 5th-storey of a lovely concrete block that was meant to be cheap (and possibly temporary?) naval accommodation when it was built like 50+ years ago. But I admit I don't actually know how big a deal is it, and I've never thought to throw the entire contents of a used cafetiere down the sink to find out. So is this a big deal, and what's the best way to clean a cafetiere? I quite like being able to make a good flask of coffee before work and if I can do so without pissing off my flatmate then so much better.

...dump coffee grounds in trash, wash cafetiere? :psyduck:

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?
I use a bamboo turner (any non metal utensil that doesn't risk cracking the carafe will do) to loosen the grounds and get them out of the carafe, and then wash the remaining little bit down the drain.

TheDarkFlame
May 4, 2013

You tell me I didn't build that?

I'll have you know I worked my fingers to the bone to get where I am today.

Jan posted:

...dump coffee grounds in trash, wash cafetiere? :psyduck:

No poo poo, thank you.

TheDarkFlame posted:

My flatmate seems to think that basically any amount of coffee grounds will clog our pipes

I'm not exaggerating here, so I'm after, you know, actual information like how much coffee ground it might take to cause a problem. Or maybe some kind of method to free as much ground coffee as possible so I'm running barely any down the drain, like the above post.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



You could use a chip brush to get more in the trash but I know someone who routinely dumps the whole French press load down the drain and it's never caused a problem :shrug:

dik-dik
Feb 21, 2009

I've never had any issues with coffee clogging my drain. I dump pretty much all of my coffee grounds down the sink (through the garbage disposal).

Crystal Lake Witch
Apr 25, 2010


In my experience coffee grinds can make existing issues worse, but aren't likely to cause a clog by themselves.

I've worked in a few cafes that have had issues caused by the coffee grinds and milk fat clogging things up, but as long as you aren't dumping grease or anything down the sink, it's probably not the end of the world.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp
Am I just a huge goony oaf, or are Bodum's press pot beakers extremely prone to shattering? Is there someone on the market who makes attractive press pots out of thicker glass?

bizwank
Oct 4, 2002

TheDarkFlame posted:

I'm not exaggerating here, so I'm after, you know, actual information like how much coffee ground it might take to cause a problem.
I own an espresso machine repair shop and we probably wash at least a cup or two of grounds down the drain every day, never had an issue with clogs. Pipes that I can see are a pretty standard 1.5in diameter.

Dr Cheeto posted:

Am I just a huge goony oaf, or are Bodum's press pot beakers extremely prone to shattering? Is there someone on the market who makes attractive press pots out of thicker glass?
Not that I've found. Just get a double-wall stainless steel one and be done with it. They're easier to clean too.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

We got a new supplier called GROSCHE who about half of their french presses have "SCHOTTE(tm) glass from Germany". They do seem a bit sturdier, though single wall.

Josh Wow
Feb 28, 2005

We need more beer up here!
There's a seller on Amazon with Capresso Inifities for $59 shipped. Says they're new but the seller doesn't have any feedback. Worst case scenario I end up with no grinder and a refund, worth a shot though. The ones from Amazon are only $75 with prime shipping, still cheaper than BB&B.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I havent drank coffee in like 5 months due to health problems and am suicidal on the reg

dik-dik posted:

I've never had any issues with coffee clogging my drain. I dump pretty much all of my coffee grounds down the sink (through the garbage disposal).

They live in a cheap old apartment there is probably no garbage disposal and only one drain. I miss my old apartment and being able to grind up a whole bowl of orange rhinds to make it smell nice in the kitchen

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone
Someone way back in this thread mentioned that french press remnants are about the same size as garbage disposal remnants. Ever since I read that I've been pouring my daily grounds down the sink on the regular. I've done it at 3 different places and I've never had any problems, but if I owned this house I'd probably dump em in the trash.

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

Swan Lake Algae Problem posted:

In my experience coffee grinds can make existing issues worse, but aren't likely to cause a clog by themselves.

I've worked in a few cafes that have had issues caused by the coffee grinds and milk fat clogging things up, but as long as you aren't dumping grease or anything down the sink, it's probably not the end of the world.

This. Older buildings were often plumbed with tiny lines draining the sinks. You can't feed them coffee grounds without running into problems.

I worked in an old wood-framed building from the 1920s that had this problem. We tried a composting bucket for a while but ran into problems with people taking responsibility for it and/or telling people when they were taking off for six weeks of holidays. The solution for us was to dump the grounds down the toilet. If your toilet drain can't handle coffee grounds you need to move now.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
A minor amount of grounds (like what is left after you dump a French press into the trash) shouldn't affect even an old drain if you send a bunch of water down after them so they can't collect in a trap with a bunch of fat. If the drain is slow already then maybe don't though.

kim jong-illin
May 2, 2011
Coffee grounds make reasonable fertiliser so maybe consider recycling them rather than just flushing them down the drain.

bizwank
Oct 4, 2002

Josh Wow posted:

There's a seller on Amazon with Capresso Inifities for $59 shipped. Says they're new but the seller doesn't have any feedback. Worst case scenario I end up with no grinder and a refund, worth a shot though. The ones from Amazon are only $75 with prime shipping, still cheaper than BB&B.
No, worst case scenario is you buy it and everything's fine for a couple months but then it breaks and you find out there's no warranty since you bought it from an unauthorized retailer (which is likely if they're selling it well below MAP) but it's now too late to get a refund.

kim jong-illin posted:

Coffee grounds make reasonable fertiliser so maybe consider recycling them rather than just flushing them down the drain.
The term you want is "composting". Putting organic waste in with your recycling is a bad thing.

Slimchandi
May 13, 2005
That finger on your temple is the barrel of my raygun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LivLKX9L6Rk

:eyepop:

Aquila
Jan 24, 2003

Josh Wow posted:

There's a seller on Amazon with Capresso Inifities for $59 shipped. Says they're new but the seller doesn't have any feedback. Worst case scenario I end up with no grinder and a refund, worth a shot though. The ones from Amazon are only $75 with prime shipping, still cheaper than BB&B.

I missed the $59 deal but ended up grabbing the $75 one for my grandma anyways. I think she grinds the night before and sets the brewer on a timer, but that's her problem.

Nanigans
Aug 31, 2005

~Waku Waku~
Any advice on how to get dark roasted grounds to not stick to the insides of the drat grinder? I usually buy medium roast beans for the Chemex, but for the Moka pot, my wife and I like a darker roast, and every time we grind, it feels like half the loving beans stay stuck on the inside of the grinder and I have to fish 'em out.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Reinanigans posted:

Any advice on how to get dark roasted grounds to not stick to the insides of the drat grinder? I usually buy medium roast beans for the Chemex, but for the Moka pot, my wife and I like a darker roast, and every time we grind, it feels like half the loving beans stay stuck on the inside of the grinder and I have to fish 'em out.

It might not be the dark, it's usually the oil. Many dark dark roasts are oily, and that oil sticks to everything. In turn, all that ground coffee you've been making sticks to the oil. Then more oil sticks to the coffee already stuck to the original oil, and then more coffee sticks to oil stuck to the coffee.... well you get it. Oily beans can kill grinders easily if they aren't cleaned near constantly, it's easily top 5 for problems involving grinders that we see here.


Unrelated, Bizwank did you open a shop in Canada? Some guy just bought 10 Ulka EP5/s pumps off our Amazon store.

bizwank
Oct 4, 2002

Reinanigans posted:

Any advice on how to get dark roasted grounds to not stick to the insides of the drat grinder? I usually buy medium roast beans for the Chemex, but for the Moka pot, my wife and I like a darker roast, and every time we grind, it feels like half the loving beans stay stuck on the inside of the grinder and I have to fish 'em out.
Yeah it's the oil that's the problem, you can get dark roasted beans that aren't very oily, otherwise keep the hopper full and the weight of the beans will help keep them moving.

Scaramouche posted:

Unrelated, Bizwank did you open a shop in Canada? Some guy just bought 10 Ulka EP5/s pumps off our Amazon store.
Nah, I'm pretty comfortable with one location. Anyway I buy them more like 50 at a time cause I get a sweeeet wholesale discount.

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.
Just curious is anyone has experience grinding coffee in a home flour mill? The burr mechanism looks the same and there are articles available about grinding wheat in a coffee grinder. Price is similar to a Baratza Encore here so I wouldn't buy one specifically for coffee, but I'm thinking about getting one for baking and beer making.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRSQKQBXfzw

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004

Hexigrammus posted:

Just curious is anyone has experience grinding coffee in a home flour mill? The burr mechanism looks the same and there are articles available about grinding wheat in a coffee grinder. Price is similar to a Baratza Encore here so I wouldn't buy one specifically for coffee, but I'm thinking about getting one for baking and beer making.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRSQKQBXfzw

I would not recommend that for beer grain milling for a multitude of reasons. There isn't nearly enough adjustment to it and you're also really just cracking beer grain to remove the inside from the husk, not making flour. It would probably also take forever. That hopper would probably hold maybe a pound of grain whereas most beer grain mills hold at least seven pounds. Also the rollers in a beer grain mill are probably at least 5x the size. You'd be milling all day.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Ooof 2 of the Baratza Sette 270W's already come back for repair. One the display just failed on first run, the other a bunch of little plasticky pieces just broke off on third run.

El Jebus
Jun 18, 2008

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Hexigrammus posted:

Just curious is anyone has experience grinding coffee in a home flour mill? The burr mechanism looks the same and there are articles available about grinding wheat in a coffee grinder. Price is similar to a Baratza Encore here so I wouldn't buy one specifically for coffee, but I'm thinking about getting one for baking and beer making.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRSQKQBXfzw

I agree with Rockcity. You are going to want a dedicated mill for brewing because you want it cracked, not turned into flour. There are a lot of good options out there that are in the $100 range for brewing. Sometimes less if you get it used and have a decent corded drill you can power it with.

Hauki
May 11, 2010


Scaramouche posted:

Ooof 2 of the Baratza Sette 270W's already come back for repair. One the display just failed on first run, the other a bunch of little plasticky pieces just broke off on third run.

That doesn't bode well. I've been holding off to see how it holds up in the long term.

ILikeVoltron
May 17, 2003

I <3 spyderbyte!

Frankston posted:

I don't want a V60 anymore.

Quoting this because after watching that video I'm sticking that thing on the do-not-buy list

porktree
Mar 23, 2002

You just fucked with the wrong Mexican.
My daughter wants to get into cold brew - I was thinking this would be a 'cool' present..

http://coffeesock.com/coldbrew/copy-of-coffeesockdiy-coldbrew-kit-gift-pack-quart-and-12-gallon

I know there are homemade ways to coldbrew that are cheaper etc, but this looked neat, and it's xmas.

bizwank
Oct 4, 2002

$40 for a sock in a jar?? Pivoting business now.

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

El Jebus posted:

I agree with Rockcity. You are going to want a dedicated mill for brewing because you want it cracked, not turned into flour. There are a lot of good options out there that are in the $100 range for brewing. Sometimes less if you get it used and have a decent corded drill you can power it with.

Yeah, I agree on that point. It's been a long time and I forgot that the old hand cranked mill I used for beer making is a cracking rather than a grinding mill. They do make a cracking mill attachment for the Bosch Universal mixer I just picked up second hand, but of course for additional $$ because Bosch. If I'm going to get back into brewing again I should probably stick with the hand mill and make myself work for each batch.

Or maybe go full country geek and run the hand mill off the tractor power take-off, I dunno...

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qutius
Apr 2, 2003
NO PARTIES

Aquila posted:

I missed the $59 deal but ended up grabbing the $75 one for my grandma anyways. I think she grinds the night before and sets the brewer on a timer, but that's her problem.

sever

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