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Megazver posted:Layoffs in Obsidian, it seems: Oh no  I thought things were going well over there. Or are they downsizing the Armored Warfare team or something? I know that's a huge team.I hope it isn't that Tyranny did poorly or something.
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Harrow posted:I hope it isn't that Tyranny did poorly or something. I would be really surprised if Tyranny was a smash hit success, or even a moderate success. It's a janky, niche game in a niche genre that got very little press attention. But Paradox is something of an outlier as publishers go, so who knows what stick they're measuring with.
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Don't worry guys, they made 4 devs beat each other to death for the shot at lead design, before cutting the winner loose.
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Dec 7, 2016 16:16
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I mean, this is as anecdotal as you can get but it did top the steam top sellers for like a week despite being relatively close to civ6's release date and iirc an all time low gta5 sale.
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Dec 7, 2016 16:17
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This also could just be part of the usual ramp-up/ramp-down game development cycle--it's really lovely, but not unusual and probably not wholly unexpected.
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Dec 7, 2016 16:20
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Yeah, game dev is pretty awful job security-wise. Layoffs at the end of big projects are the rule rather than the exception, it's a cut-throat business.
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Dec 7, 2016 16:25
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Sad to hear. Tyranny is my my favourite rpg in quite a while. It's really nice to see Obsidian innovating with smaller projects.
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Dec 7, 2016 16:44
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I went looking on every social group I touch for someone to talk about tunon's trial with and nope i'm the only one I know who bought, played this game, so it doesn't surprise me if it's not doing great. Anecdotally, I mean.
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Krinkle posted:I went looking on every social group I touch for someone to talk about tunon's trial with and nope i'm the only one I know who bought, played this game, so it doesn't surprise me if it's not doing great. Anecdotally, I mean. steamspy thinks ~110,000 owners, putting it in between Carmageddon: Max Damage and RollerCoaster Tycoon World on the owned list. That's probably still bouncing around a lot since it's been 3 weeks, but that's about 1/9 of what Pillar of Eternity got.
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Is chaos orb a bad ultimate? I didn't notice much utility from it. Pushes people away and confuses. So does whats-his-nuts's staff. What does spell accuracy do on healing spells or buff spells? I have free lore so I add it if I have no other accents but why bother? Can you miss a heal? Krinkle fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Dec 7, 2016 |
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Dec 7, 2016 19:28
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Krinkle posted:What does spell accuracy do on healing spells or buff spells? I have free lore so I add it if I have no other accents but why bother? Can you miss a heal? Heals and buffs can crit and accuracy determines crit chance. Critical heals restore more health, critical buffs have extra duration.
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Dec 7, 2016 20:05
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Has anyone had any success with vigor spells? The only one I ever felt I could justify a spell slot on was the damage buff cone, everything else just looks super lovely.
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Dec 7, 2016 22:17
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Was I not supposed to basic vigor verse every fight? Because I did. I assumed it helped. I also did the vigor spell that added armor piercing to her because her accuracy was great but [weapon ineffective].
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Dec 7, 2016 22:19
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Krinkle posted:Was I not supposed to basic vigor verse every fight? Because I did. I assumed it helped. I also did the vigor spell that added armor piercing to her because her accuracy was great but [weapon ineffective]. Nothing wrong with it, it's just not that amazing of a spell. The Vigor cone spell (Surge of Glory) is fantastic, though. I also tended to use the armor piercing spell (Polish Arms, I think?) with Verse. Titan's Touch (the basic vigor spell) is just kinda 
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Ratios and Tendency posted:Has anyone had any success with vigor spells? The only one I ever felt I could justify a spell slot on was the damage buff cone, everything else just looks super lovely. The Glory buff and Polish Arms are both really great at helping your party do a lot more damage a lot quicker. I don't remember anything else based off that sigil being remotely useful.
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Dec 7, 2016 22:39
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I kept trying to reposition for the cone spell and the disengagement attacks would murder my mages so I never got to really use it. Also I would say "hey cast it on [portrait]" and he would turn and fire it off towards the corner of the screen where portraits are unlike every other goddamn spell that works that way.
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Dec 7, 2016 22:42
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Krinkle posted:I kept trying to reposition for the cone spell and the disengagement attacks would murder my mages so I never got to really use it. Also I would say "hey cast it on [portrait]" and he would turn and fire it off towards the corner of the screen where portraits are unlike every other goddamn spell that works that way. It practically requires the range boost sigil, but you get that early in Act 1. After that you use it before you actually start the fight (also, use custom formations so the natural position for everyone to stand is in the perfect place to be hit by your cone spells and radius-ified other spells)
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Dec 7, 2016 22:44
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I just started playing and wasnt expecting to be HR Mediator.
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Synthbuttrange posted:I just started playing and wasnt expecting to be HR Mediator. Welcome to the best thing about this game! Seriously I'd love if we could get a more modern RPG where you don't have to fight anything, just continual levelling via being an (evil/good) rules lawyer. Of course if neccesary you CAN break out the fireballs, but still it'd be nice if you didn't have to.
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Hard is... extremely difficult. I Have one CC spell right now. I try to put a bubble around the blood chanter's head and it fails so.... Guess I die and reload?
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Dec 8, 2016 01:38
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I went with a smart talky mage. Which means as soon as poo poo goes down Barik is the last one standing. Good thing I taught him to heal himself.
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Krinkle posted:Hard is... extremely difficult. I Have one CC spell right now. I try to put a bubble around the blood chanter's head and it fails so.... Guess I die and reload? Keep up the CC. Once you reach act 2, Hard gets a ton easier, both because you have a ton more spells by then and because enemy formations get less challenging in general. Do you have the Illusion sigil? It's amazing and you can grab it in the Scarlet Chorus camp. Use that + the cone expression for a great CC.
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'Awesome, my high lore unlocked this conversation option!' 'Wait saying this might get me killed'
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I don't work in Marketing but I have to wonder, if Tyranny is underperforming (and I don't know that it is) one reason might be that the title is so simple and doesn't really clue you in that it's even an RPG at all. Pillars of Eternity is a name that screams "dungeons and also possibly dragons are in the offing". Tyranny, not so much. Could have done with a subtitle. "Tyranny: Fatebinder of Tunon" or somesuch.
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Is there any downside to looting containers, locked, hidden and regular? No one seems to react to it.
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Synthbuttrange posted:Is there any downside to looting containers, locked, hidden and regular? No one seems to react to it. Nope.
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Autonomous Monster posted:I would be really surprised if Tyranny was a smash hit success, or even a moderate success. It's a janky, niche game in a niche genre that got very little press attention. I got the impression that Tyranny was pretty cheap to make, so i assume that it needs to sell less to be a success. Also, with a niche game like this they are probably counting on sales over the long run, as with Pillars.
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Synthbuttrange posted:Is there any downside to looting containers, locked, hidden and regular? No one seems to react to it. I found a single lock in the Blade Grave that had the red "people are gonna get mad if you fiddle with this" icon from PoE, but the only people around were a combat encounter I don't think was avoidable, so it's not like it ended up mattering.
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Josef bugman posted:Welcome to the best thing about this game! There would clearly be a market niche for an RPG set in the corporate world between business, IT, marketing, finance, legal and HR.
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Bolivar posted:There would clearly be a market niche for an RPG set in the corporate world between business, IT, marketing, finance, legal and HR. Which department would be in charge of the fireballs?
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Depends on the spell system, Vancian or mana pool?
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Bolivar posted:There would clearly be a market niche for an RPG set in the corporate world between business, IT, marketing, finance, legal and HR. Would play. Mymla posted:Which department would be in charge of the fireballs? In Charles Stross's "The Laundry" series, I'm pretty sure it's IT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atrocity_Archives
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Krinkle posted:Hard is... extremely difficult. I Have one CC spell right now. I try to put a bubble around the blood chanter's head and it fails so.... Guess I die and reload? My first playthrough on hard, I gave up around halfway through Act 2 (or 2/3'rds) because my monk caster was worthless garbage and most fights ended up with a last man standing or at least 1 injury. I started to get a special kind of glee watching a character die multiple times in combat (Lantry had his rez talent at the time) meaning I could end a fight with 6 wounds on a character, and often did. I restarted with a 2-hander and fiery vengeance in my heart. I found out two things: * Missing guarded force means missing mirror images. You can miss this in Act 1. Missing Mirror Images makes this game an unplayable chore. Don't miss Mirror Images, ever. Ever. * Get material force as soon as possible. Pick a path, then immediately research the route to get material force asap. Don't delay. You want material force. Let me break down how two games went when following these instructions. First game: I fought a Havoc and managed to win by chugging potions, applying food and item buffs before-hand, using every team skill I had, using Lantry to rez the dead, used revival potions, CC'd adds, took a few attempts. Second game: Same Havoc as my 2-handed wielder with lore. I cast AOE haste/ignite brand/frost/shock whatever on myself, AOE mirror images and spectral blur, and opened on him with flurry -- I killed it in 5 seconds. I took no damage.
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Krinkle posted:What is material force and why do I have to research it? It's an expression sigil for your spells. The "research" is "look up where to find it online," it's not a thing you actually have to research in-game. It lets you cast spells that enchant weapons and, once you get the accent sigil Volcanic Weapon, pretty much breaks the game if you have a couple of good melee attackers (like Verse). Volcanic Weapon makes every melee attack include a line AoE fire blast in front of the attacker, so it makes your melee attacks AoE and deal extra damage, and yes, it works with multi-hit abilities, so it's awesome with unarmed and dual-wield. I like to go with Vampiric Weapon myself (Sigil of Terratus + Sigil of Material Force). It does slightly less damage than Ignite Brand (Fire + Material Force) but also heals you with each attack so you have even less reason to bother with healing spells. Harrow fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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I'm trying to play with characters I didn't play with last time so verse and lantry and beastwoman who wants to gently caress gotta hit the bench. Hope 2h heavy armor sirin works out.
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Krinkle posted:I'm trying to play with characters I didn't play with last time so verse and lantry and beastwoman who wants to gently caress gotta hit the bench. Hope 2h heavy armor sirin works out. So you're using Barik, Sirin, and Eb? What's your Fatebinder's build? Material Force + Volcanic Weapon is great no matter what weapons you use, though. Use Terratus + Material Force for Vampiric Weapon and you can probably make Barik close to immortal with a two-hander.
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2 handed + lightning. And I think I'm done with the power tree and going to do a lot of leadership stuff. I already got the scream to make people fight betterer skill. Haha what? Kills in shadow just wanted to join me? I sensed a fight coming so I slapped her first time, hoping to make her bow to my obvious primacy in the aggression olympics, which obviously triggered a huge fight. This time she just joins. Amazing. Krinkle fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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I'm making my way through Act 2 on hard without guarded force and it's doable. I gather the merchant in the first area sells it? I didn't buy anything at that point since I didn't yet have an understanding of how the the magic system worked. The difficulty level is fine so far, with the really challenging fights taking a couple of reloads before I can squeak through with only a couple of wounds. I can see my biggest barrier becoming a lack of AoE CC. Once I can get Lantry freezing/stunning/tripping people in a cone it should be cool. Managing aggro is a lot more labour intensive than it was in PoE and I'm not sure if it's because there are much fewer chokepoints or mobs are just less cooperative. Barik has quite a few ways of regaining aggro and Verse has some nice tricks for unsticking people from Lantry though. Combat in general is a lot less static than in PoE, my lightly armoured main and Verse spend a lot of time manouevring behind the enemy line targeting archers and casters. Edit: the combo abilities are cool as gently caress. Fruits of the sea fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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You don't actually have to play on hard, either, if you're finding it to be a slog. You can even play on easy if you want!
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