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Based on the article titles and comments therein that I saw following the renewal, the show's audience loved that stuff.
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Edit: Page break ruins everything.
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Dec 12, 2016 01:25
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"Hello Megan?" was the big one I remember being really annoying.
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Dec 12, 2016 01:25
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Roth posted:Off the top of my head, I recall a lot of characters had a catchphrase, or something reoccurring about them. There was also, "Hello Meghan".
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Dec 12, 2016 01:26
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Some of them were definitely stronger than others. I like the "whelmed" gag because it feels like exactly the kind of dumb inside joke a group of friends would hold onto for that long.
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Dec 12, 2016 01:27
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The Hello Megan thing is actually really important to the plot and is just disguised as an annoying running gag. It's good.
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Dec 12, 2016 01:35
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Like, you're purposely meant to think "what an inane running bit" and then it turns out to have significantly deeper meaning, and to be dumb and cheesy on purpose. It's a smart subversion of expectations.
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Dec 12, 2016 01:36
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"Hello Megan" was supposed to be annoying. Same for Lagoon Boy saying that stuff. Thinking he was just this arrogant annoying loser who stole M'gann away was the intended audience reaction. But Weisman is going to be insufferable? What? The guy has never let go of his ideas but that just makes him committed to what he wants to do. I've never found him arrogant or dismissive of people.
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Dec 12, 2016 01:37
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I mean, to be fair, Lagoon Boy is pretty insufferable. It chafes more because he gets so much screen time despite being both incredibly dull and actively difficult to like.
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Dec 12, 2016 01:39
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TFRazorsaw posted:Thinking he was just this arrogant annoying loser who stole M'gann away was the intended audience reaction. Ended up not working for me, because I didn't think Lagoon Boy really came across as a jerk for being with Miss Martian, and I don't recall him treating her badly either.
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Dec 12, 2016 01:40
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Roth posted:Ended up not working for me, because I didn't think Lagoon Boy really came across as a jerk for being with Miss Martian, and I don't recall him treating her badly either. again, that was the point. He has all these surface traits that make you think he's this arrogant jock who was stepping where he didn't belong, but he's really just this insecure kid who's corny and just kind of overcompensating for things without realizing he's just the rebound.
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Dec 12, 2016 01:53
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I'm talking about from the outset, I never really felt like there was a reason to hate the guy, for good or bad reasons. Which is apparently what they intended.
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Dec 12, 2016 02:06
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Really? Huh. He really felt like a "the Paulo" character for me.
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Dec 12, 2016 02:28
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Yeah, I sort of felt like they wanted me to hate him because "he stole Superboy's girl!!" but I didn't dislike him on that basis, more the fact that he was consistently boring to watch. Meanwhile there are bunches of characters who are potentially more interesting and get tiny scraps of screentime, vs. Lagoon Boy who is dull, vaguely obnoxious, and is very consistently featured episode to episode. Like, I'm pretty sure he gets more screentime than Nightwing, and he definitely gets more than Batgirl, Wonder Girl, etc. They don't really make him either likeable or interesting enough to justify that, I think.
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Dec 12, 2016 02:36
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It also hurts that this all happens after a timeskip where several of the major, painstakingly developed characters from last season are missing or on the sidelines, so you're like, "where's Aqualad? Artemis? Kid Flash?" and the show is just like, "they're gone now, have another episode with eight minutes of Lagoon Boy." This pays off later in the season when all these characters get to do something, but it takes a really long time for that to happen.
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Dec 12, 2016 02:39
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Android Blues posted:Yeah, I sort of felt like they wanted me to hate him because "he stole Superboy's girl!!" but I didn't dislike him on that basis, more the fact that he was consistently boring to watch. Meanwhile there are bunches of characters who are potentially more interesting and get tiny scraps of screentime, vs. Lagoon Boy who is dull, vaguely obnoxious, and is very consistently featured episode to episode. I don't remember him getting that much screentime. But yeah, I find myself disliking him because he's got two traits, with Miss Martian and constantly angry and frustrated in the field. Superboy had that, but he also had the development to make him a character that you could like. Imagine if Superboy got none of that, and that's kinda like Lagoon Boy. Oh, and then Lagoon Boy gets kidnapped for like, ten episodes. But then again, I'm only at episode 13, from what people have said it sounds like he gets a bit more development.
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Dec 12, 2016 02:51
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Giving something a reason to be annoying doesn't make it less annoying. Hello Megan was not pleasing to hear for the umpteenth time. It was nice that they explained it, but that took a while. So people sat through an annoying catch phrase just so we could get a little story that explained why she did it before she basically stopped doing it. We could have just not had it in the first place. Poor writing. Whelmed would have been more funny if it were basically the only attempt at a catchphrase on the show, imo. The season 2 stuff was worse because it felt even more forced, since the older characters stopped doing theirs. I'm fairly certain that the catchphrase nonsense hurt the show more than it helped in the long run.
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Dec 12, 2016 03:06
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Android Blues posted:I mean, to be fair, Lagoon Boy is pretty insufferable. It chafes more because he gets so much screen time despite being both incredibly dull and actively difficult to like. This is my exact opinion of Girl Martian. And most of the cast.
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Dec 12, 2016 03:41
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:This is my exact opinion of Girl Martian. It's not really comparable. You might dislike those characters, but there's something to them. Miss Martian has a really elaborate story, personality, character beats, plot relevance, etc. That can land for you or not, but it's inarguably there. Lagoon Boy is just there, on the screen, repeating the same bit of shtick over and over again.
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Dec 12, 2016 03:46
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The "Hello Megan" thing was part of how M'gann had basically created a new identity that was artificial, it wasn't done for the sake of just "doing it". Likewise, they showed Lagoon Boy was insecure about who he was and overcompensated by being loud, on top of his anxiety about his relationship with her.
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Dec 12, 2016 04:08
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A lot of these long, slow, annoying story beats (see: "Hello Megan") only work if your show is good enough despite them that the audience sticks around to see the payoff. Young Justice wasn't that show.
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Dec 12, 2016 04:10
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Android Blues posted:It's not really comparable. You might dislike those characters, but there's something to them. Miss Martian has a really elaborate story, personality, character beats, plot relevance, etc. That can land for you or not, but it's inarguably there. Lagoon Boy is just there, on the screen, repeating the same bit of shtick over and over again. TFRazorsaw posted:The "Hello Megan" thing was part of how M'gann had basically created a new identity that was artificial, it wasn't done for the sake of just "doing it". Likewise, they showed Lagoon Boy was insecure about who he was and overcompensated by being loud, on top of his anxiety about his relationship with her. Exactly. M'gann has more going for her, but it's the exact same thing as Lagoon Boy. It doesn't land on me so I just see her as annoying and wish the show didn't focus so much on her and her crimes against humanity. She's nuanced and very elaborated, but also insufferable and dull. On brighter news, episode 4 of JLA had the most boring climax that could ever be achieved in a team-up of Swamp Thing, zombie batman and zatanna but episodes 5 (Joker's kidnapped by Morlun or whatever) and 6 (Blue Beetle and Batman go to Batman TAS/Year 1 to beat up Chronos) were Good Enough and really fun to watch. MorningMoon fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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Dec 12, 2016 04:32
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TFRazorsaw posted:The "Hello Megan" thing was part of how M'gann had basically created a new identity that was artificial, it wasn't done for the sake of just "doing it". Likewise, they showed Lagoon Boy was insecure about who he was and overcompensated by being loud, on top of his anxiety about his relationship with her. They could have told that exact same story for Megan without overusing an annoying catchphrase, mostly because just about every writer in history who has followed that trope has done it. M'gann isn't the first character in fictional history to be a fish out of water needing to create a new identity to blend in with society. Hello Megan was a bad catchphrase in a show that had too many bad catchphrases. I really enjoyed the show, both seasons, but the catchphrases are my biggest gripe besides the time skip. The writers had a weird and wrong fixation with catchphrases and I hope to god they put that poo poo to rest for season 3.
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Dec 12, 2016 05:21
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ToastyPotato posted:They could have told that exact same story for Megan without overusing an annoying catchphrase, mostly because just about every writer in history who has followed that trope has done it. M'gann isn't the first character in fictional history to be a fish out of water needing to create a new identity to blend in with society. Hello Megan was a bad catchphrase in a show that had too many bad catchphrases. I really enjoyed the show, both seasons, but the catchphrases are my biggest gripe besides the time skip. The writers had a weird and wrong fixation with catchphrases and I hope to god they put that poo poo to rest for season 3. "Yowza, yowza, bo-bowza!" "Why do you say that, Todd?" "Joker kept saying that repeating sounds doesn't make a punchline while he kept beating me with the crowbar, at that moment I told myself: i'll defy everything he does, everything, even his attempt at killing me. And I did, and will continue to do. Yowza, yowza, bo-bowza."
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Dec 12, 2016 05:32
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It worked for me and I think it added to what they were going for.
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Dec 12, 2016 05:46
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Usually you don't go for lovely writing but if that is what they wanted then yeah they nailed it.
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Dec 12, 2016 06:23
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Whatever you guys prefer, man.
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Dec 12, 2016 06:40
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Yeah, I thought they did a good job. Then again, I guess it depends on how annoying you find "Hello Megan," in the first place, which in my case is not very.
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Dec 12, 2016 14:34
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Ended up being shown a bit of Justice League Action It was weird. The first one, that starred Superman and Wonder Woman, was... worse than the worst episode of the original Teen Titans. Like it was bad like a bad episode of Ben 10. Bad like the DC DTV movies are. Really bad The other one, though, was a perfectly enjoyable little space adventure with obscure DC weirdos and Patton Oswalt. Like an episode of Brave and the Bold starring Superman, and squashed into 11 minutes. If these two chunks are representative of the show as a whole, it's gonna be about as mixed a bag as they come, good lordy OnimaruXLR fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Dec 13, 2016 |
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Dec 13, 2016 23:03
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It's for 10 year olds.
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Dec 13, 2016 23:23
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Aphrodite posted:It's for 10 year olds. So there's no difference between Toy Story and Shrek 4-Ever After, is what you're saying?
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Dec 13, 2016 23:51
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OnimaruXLR posted:Ended up being shown a bit of Justice League Action That first one is poo poo and thankfully nothing compares to it. I'd say that second one is representative of the show, sometimes it gets the pacing better but sometime's it's that strange. Although I might be wrong since there's only six episodes so far and what lies ahead might be different. 2, 5 and 6 are fun and enjoyable to watch. 1 is poo poo, 3 is pretty bad and 4 has the most boring ending imaginable. MorningMoon fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Dec 13, 2016 |
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Dec 13, 2016 23:53
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OnimaruXLR posted:So there's no difference between Toy Story and Shrek 4-Ever After, is what you're saying? One's really boring and the other's Shrek.
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Dec 14, 2016 09:15
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Has anyone else been watching the Justice League Action cartoon? I'm mostly enjoying it, some episodes are better than others. Some of my highlights so far have been: Play Date - Teen Titans Go Cyborg is brilliant. All the little video game gags were great. Nuclear Family Values - I just really loved the demented Brady Bunch villains in this. Firestorm was okay too! The premiere was decent too.
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Dec 28, 2016 11:55
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After seeing the Hulk/Dr. Strange cartoon, I have to applaud Marvel Animation for their absolutely amazing level of consistency. It is an impressive feat to maintain this much blandness across multiple series over multiple years.
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Dec 28, 2016 17:32
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ToastyPotato posted:After seeing the Hulk/Dr. Strange cartoon, I have to applaud Marvel Animation for their absolutely amazing level of consistency. It is an impressive feat to maintain this much blandness across multiple series over multiple years. You should probably check out the recent DC stuff too.
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Dec 28, 2016 21:05
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Andrew_1985 posted:Has anyone else been watching the Justice League Action cartoon? I'm mostly enjoying it, some episodes are better than others. The one with the Trinity was great too. Luthors hair gag was hilarious. And Diana's little gag about sidekicks got all the right people angry It's a a bit kidsy but even still it's fun to see the JLA back in action.
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Dec 29, 2016 00:28
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Skwirl posted:You should probably check out the recent DC stuff too. Yeah but that at least has been relegated to 1 or 2 bad films per year. Multiple seasons of multiple shows and a film nuts. You'd figure they would have at some point wandered into interesting content just by sheer chance by now. Though the fact that DC managed to smother even The Killing Joke in their current bland badness is a very noteworthy achievement. That said, I feel like the DC DTV films are actually slightly better than the Marvel Animated stuff currently. The biggest downside to DC's stuff is the lack of animation budgets and bland designing. Marvel Animation has that too, but then they are also written in the most uninteresting way possible on top of it all. ToastyPotato fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Dec 29, 2016 |
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Dec 29, 2016 03:07
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ToastyPotato posted:Yeah but that at least has been relegated to 1 or 2 bad films per year. Multiple seasons of multiple shows and a film nuts. You'd figure they would have at some point wandered into interesting content just by sheer chance by now. Though the fact that DC managed to smother even The Killing Joke in their current bland badness is a very noteworthy achievement. I was super dissapointed about the Hulk/Dr. Strange movie because the only DTv Marvel stuff I've liked was the Wolverine vs. Hulk short film and the Planet Hulk movie, so I thought, "Oh, another Hulk movie, maybe it will be good." Nope.
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Skwirl posted:I was super dissapointed about the Hulk/Dr. Strange movie because the only DTv Marvel stuff I've liked was the Wolverine vs. Hulk short film and the Planet Hulk movie, so I thought, "Oh, another Hulk movie, maybe it will be good." Nope. Those days and people are long gone it seems.
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