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The cynical side of me says that you'll be able to buy digital/CD versions after the holiday rush. At least I hope so  I have a turntable for cheap-rear end 80s schlock and old school country. If I'm gonna buy something on that awful format I don't want to spend real money on it.
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Dec 18, 2016 06:54
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Vince MechMahon posted:Where do you live? Country wise, that is. 
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Dec 18, 2016 07:14
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Might be something to do with package dimensions or something wacky like that, who knows.
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Dec 18, 2016 07:35
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david_a posted:The cynical side of me says that you'll be able to buy digital/CD versions after the holiday rush. At least I hope so Can I ask why you think it's an awful format? I'm not audiophile, but most of my records sound real good, plus they look cool.
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Dec 18, 2016 07:49
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Honestly vinyl had a huge resurgence this year. People just started buying it more I feel. Hell I bought my first 2 vinyls this year.
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Dec 18, 2016 09:18
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If people aren't buying CDs or even digital downloads anymore they're sure as poo poo not buying vinyl in any large numbers. 90% of your potential audience is hipsters who would never be caught dead listening to Nine Inch Nails anyway.
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Dec 18, 2016 10:15
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TR's old. Old dudes dig vinyl.
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Dec 18, 2016 11:05
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Apparently vinyl sales were at decades' long high this year and earned more money than streaming. http://fortune.com/2016/04/16/vinyl-sales-record-store-day/
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Dec 18, 2016 11:40
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There's some interesting stuff on the nin.com discography page. Looks like Trent's trying to get some re-releases done.
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Dec 18, 2016 16:10
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Vince MechMahon posted:Can I ask why you think it's an awful format? I'm not audiophile, but most of my records sound real good, plus they look cool. * It's a complete pain to flip sides all the time. If the album was designed for vinyl it's one thing, but I had one where they had to split it on two LPs for length and the sides were like 15 minutes. * Sound quality is mediocre * Player/albums both require regular cleaning and/or maintenance * Expensive I only have one because I got the player for free (although I did have to get it serviced) and I find rooting through LPs at a record store somehow entertaining.
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Dec 18, 2016 16:43
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Vinyl is just hideously impractical. It does look and feel super nice though. I think it's a genuine loss that we generally no longer consume music in a way that involves big album artwork and liner notes. But that's the only advantage I really see. I just don't hear a positive difference compared to lossless digital formats. I'm glad it's available for people who want it, but whenever an artist releases something only on vinyl because "Thats How It's Meant To Be Experienced" I can't help rolling my eyes.
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Any vinyl that doesn't come with a high quality digital version is doing it wrong, because yes, it is impractical. Also yes, I can see why flipping would be annoying if you were doing other things away from the player at the time. The sound quality is heavily reliant on your player and speakers, so because you get a free player that then needed service, my guess is it's somewhere on that end, not the format itself. I've never once had to do any cleaning or maintenance on my player, and unless you're leaving the records themselves out where they can get covered in dust they don't really need much done to them either, maybe a quick dusting if you're noticing an impact on them. They are expensive in a lot of cases though, yeah, but they're a prestige collectors thing. Basically if should be for stuff you love and want to have a big rear end version of the art work for.
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Megazver posted:Apparently vinyl sales were at decades' long high this year and earned more money than streaming. More money than ad-supported free streaming which isn't a high bar to clear. Last time I listened to an album on Spotify free I made it through the whole thing without hearing a single ad.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Any vinyl that doesn't come with a high quality digital version is doing it wrong, because yes, it is impractical. Also yes, I can see why flipping would be annoying if you were doing other things away from the player at the time. The sound quality is heavily reliant on your player and speakers, so because you get a free player that then needed service, my guess is it's somewhere on that end, not the format itself. I've never once had to do any cleaning or maintenance on my player, and unless you're leaving the records themselves out where they can get covered in dust they don't really need much done to them either, maybe a quick dusting if you're noticing an impact on them. They are expensive in a lot of cases though, yeah, but they're a prestige collectors thing. Basically if should be for stuff you love and want to have a big rear end version of the art work for. Basically this. CDs are unnecessarily restrictive compared to high-quality lossless audio files, which can far exceed the 44KHz 16-bit limit that was state-of-the-art for digital audio in the '80s, but not so much now. (Not that you're likely to hear much of a difference, but that's a tired digression.) In the early days of monetized downloadable music, I always preferred CDs because they were lossless and therefore the highest quality possible. But now that some artists are releasing 96KHz lossless digital downloads, CDs are no longer the audiophile's dream format. But I still like physical products. And vinyls look way cooler than CDs. So if I'm gonna insist on a physical product, might as well go all the way. It is indeed massively impractical, but it's impractical in kind of a cool, fun way. And as long as a digital download is offered with it, it's a win-win, because it's not like I ever actually listen to CDs anymore. And of course there's all the audiophile stuff about how technically vinyl is analog and that's always theoretically better than digital. And how it's basically impossible to "brickwall" a vinyl master (for fear of ruining the needle) so occasionally a vinyl master is actually better than the digital one. But these are things that don't always necessarily make any perceptible difference, especially since almost everything goes through a digital process before it gets anywhere near the vinyl anyway. Sir Lemming fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Dec 19, 2016 |
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Entropic posted:Vinyl is just hideously impractical. It does look and feel super nice though. I think it's a genuine loss that we generally no longer consume music in a way that involves big album artwork and liner notes. But that's the only advantage I really see. I just don't hear a positive difference compared to lossless digital formats. VinceMechMahon posted:Any vinyl that doesn't come with a high quality digital version is doing it wrong, because yes, it is impractical. Also yes, I can see why flipping would be annoying if you were doing other things away from the player at the time. The sound quality is heavily reliant on your player and speakers, so because you get a free player that then needed service, my guess is it's somewhere on that end, not the format itself. I've never once had to do any cleaning or maintenance on my player, and unless you're leaving the records themselves out where they can get covered in dust they don't really need much done to them either, maybe a quick dusting if you're noticing an impact on them. They are expensive in a lot of cases though, yeah, but they're a prestige collectors thing. Basically if should be for stuff you love and want to have a big rear end version of the art work for. It's only as impractical as you feel like it is; I happen to think that it's a unique medium to experience apart from whatever record you're playing. You can also look at the same painting on a bunch of different computer monitors but there is no denying that it is a different (not necessarily better or worse, not necessarily "meant to be") experience to see that painting on a canvas in a physical space with your body. I think it happens to be pretty impressive technology as well, considering how delicate yet reliably mass produced it is. And sure, big artwork and reading material. But it's more than a fetish object, though a large percentage of its audience does treat it as such. It's just analog! Join us in the vinyl thread if you really want to get right into a can of worms  Is the site down for anyone else? Since having read about the reissues on here, I haven't been able to load either nin.com or store.nin.com. I haven't been a reliable fan for the last record and really any of the soundtrack work... I kind of quietly got off the bandwagon after Ghosts. But the Fragile material has got me excited, and I wouldn't not pick up a couple of the album reissues.
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1000 umbrellas posted:It's only as impractical as you feel like it is; I happen to think that it's a unique medium to experience apart from whatever record you're playing. You can also look at the same painting on a bunch of different computer monitors but there is no denying that it is a different (not necessarily better or worse, not necessarily "meant to be") experience to see that painting on a canvas in a physical space with your body. I think it happens to be pretty impressive technology as well, considering how delicate yet reliably mass produced it is. And sure, big artwork and reading material. But it's more than a fetish object, though a large percentage of its audience does treat it as such. It's just analog! Join us in the vinyl thread if you really want to get right into a can of worms The site has been up and down for the last couple days since the announcement.
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1000 umbrellas posted:Is the site down for anyone else? Since having read about the reissues on here, I haven't been able to load either nin.com or store.nin.com. Currently they're both accessible, but for a few days I was only able to load store.nin.com from my phone (when I turned off WiFi) for some reason.
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Dec 19, 2016 13:21
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Sir Lemming posted:Currently they're both accessible, but for a few days I was only able to load store.nin.com from my phone (when I turned off WiFi) for some reason. store.nin.com is run separately from the main site, so you should always be able to get to the store even if the main site is down. They might've been getting hammered from the news.
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Dec 19, 2016 17:20
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Checked back in this morning and was able to grab the Deviations record!
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sleepwalkers posted:store.nin.com is run separately from the main site, so you should always be able to get to the store even if the main site is down. They might've been getting hammered from the news. Oh I know, it's just strange that I could only access it off my home network. Some weird DNS glitch I guess. It's okay now though.
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Dec 19, 2016 20:43
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Sir Lemming posted:Oh I know, it's just strange that I could only access it off my home network. Some weird DNS glitch I guess. It's okay now though. D'oh, I totally skipped over that part of your post. Yeah, that is weird.
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Dec 19, 2016 20:51
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I was having a similar problem. Couldn't open the store on my phone, could on my computer.
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Dec 19, 2016 21:42
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The new EP is streaming on Beats radio tomorrow, a day ahead of the release date
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Dec 21, 2016 23:41
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BANME.sh posted:The new EP is streaming on Beats radio tomorrow, a day ahead of the release date hell yes
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Dec 21, 2016 23:42
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BANME.sh posted:The new EP is streaming on Beats radio tomorrow, a day ahead of the release date Starting when?
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Dec 21, 2016 23:55
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8PM LA / 11PM NY / 4AM LDN
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Dec 22, 2016 00:02
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BANME.sh posted:The new EP is streaming on Beats radio tomorrow, a day ahead of the release date  That's through Apple Music, right? Is it a free show or do you have to be a subscriber?
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:
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To Deviations or not to Deviations  ..apparently they've some issues with the Deviations files so they put up everything else instead. Molestationary Store fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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Dec 22, 2016 08:57
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Apparently it's just an early release all-around, just got the download for Not the Actual Events in my email.
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Dec 22, 2016 09:56
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Dog Fat Man Chaser posted:Apparently it's just an early release all-around, just got the download for Not the Actual Events in my email.  How is it?!
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Dec 22, 2016 10:20
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There's also a "music video" to go along with one of the songs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvyywDE67tY
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Dec 22, 2016 10:29
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Ammat The Ankh posted:There's also a "music video" to go along with one of the songs  I mean it kinda rules, but this is not what I expected at all. What in the world.
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Dec 22, 2016 10:45
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:
My first impressions are really positive, but I'm gonna give it time to see if that holds up or if it's just "holy poo poo new NIN" excitement. I think if you like what's in that video above you'll dig it. I'm super into the first track so far. also am I crazy or is the album art the art for Still but just with Not the Actual Events instead of Still written?
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Dec 22, 2016 10:47
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That track is extremely my poo poo. I like it better than anything on Hesitation Marks.
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Dec 22, 2016 10:51
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TOOT BOOT posted:That track is extremely my poo poo. I like it better than anything on Hesitation Marks.
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Dec 22, 2016 10:53
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:They certainly weren't kidding when they said it wasn't anything like Hesitation Marks or their film work... Yeah, no kidding. It's very different, which I think is a good thing in this case. Not that I didn't like those too, but this change is nice.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:There's also a "music video" to go along with one of the songs That's a slightly less migraine inducing video than the one David Lynch directed.
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This is such a welcome change from Hesitation Marks, was not expecting this at all.
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