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Bruceski posted:It's right there in the title, the Time Judge is Setsuna. I don't get how that works, and they don't look alike unless I'm just not seeing it on my phone screen
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Kalenn Istarion posted:I don't get how that works, and they don't look alike unless I'm just not seeing it on my phone screen Spiritnite magic.
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Dec 24, 2016 03:24
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Bruceski posted:It's right there in the title, the Time Judge is Setsuna. I kinda want this to be the case, and become the most heavy handed and clumsy title drop ever 
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Dec 24, 2016 03:31
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I can't believe Aeterna was just eternal the whole time, it was right there winking me in the face. I wonder if the other characters names were puns the whole time that I missed. Aside from Endr of course, I just assumed that was referring to the fact that he's an ender of people/monster lives and not a time loop ender.
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Fabulousvillain posted:I can't believe Aeterna was just eternal the whole time, it was right there winking me in the face. I wonder if the other characters names were puns the whole time that I missed. Aside from Endr of course, I just assumed that was referring to the fact that he's an ender of people/monster lives and not a time loop ender. Julienne is also named after what she does to monsters
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hey girl you up posted:So we're in a rebirth loop until we defeat Samsara. Is it more or less on the nose than Final Fantasy X's kaiju being named Sin?
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The Dark Id posted:And something INCREDIBLY stupid that I hate happens immediately afterwards. Is it chocobo racing?
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Good news! It turns out that the rumored "I am Setsuna" sequal isn't happening! Tokyo RPG Factory decided to only make one pandering, retro, garbage video game based on Chrono Trigger.
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Dec 24, 2016 05:35
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I want to see them make one for Xenogears. But Xenosaga already exists, and was already miserably awful.
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Solitair posted:Is it more or less on the nose than Final Fantasy X's kaiju being named Sin? I'd say more; samsara is literally a reincarnation cycle one strives to escape. Sin is the destroyer of mankind but a little less literal than the kaiju does. I do love the fact that it looks like the solution to finally defeating samsara and sin is through applied violence, though.
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Xenogears is a special kind of crazy that is hard to replicate. As far as I'm aware there is no other JRPG that lets you Kung Fu fight a Goddamn T-Rex, which is a massive oversight from the current video game industry.
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I think my favorite video game pipe dream concept is a Xenogears remake that presents the cut content on Disc 2 as it was originally meant to be. We're getting a Final Fantasy 7 remake instead.
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Blackunknown posted:Xenogears is a special kind of crazy that is hard to replicate. As far as I'm aware there is no other JRPG that lets you Kung Fu fight a Goddamn T-Rex, which is a massive oversight from the current video game industry. FF8 did that like a year later.
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Blackunknown posted:Xenogears is a special kind of crazy that is hard to replicate. As far as I'm aware there is no other JRPG that lets you Kung Fu fight a Goddamn T-Rex, which is a massive oversight from the current video game industry. Crono Trigger if Ayla counts.
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So wait, Aeterna is a clone of the Time Judge who is possibly some sort of future version of Setsuna? I wonder if Endir ever got busy with Aeterna it would count as a foursome? ...Dammit, brain, out of the gutter! Blackunknown posted:Xenogears is a special kind of crazy that is hard to replicate. As far as I'm aware there is no other JRPG that lets you Kung Fu fight a Goddamn T-Rex, which is a massive oversight from the current video game industry. There's also Tales of Graces, which lets you kung fu a giant gozilla monster. It's so huge that one of the mid-game dungeons is its stomach, after it EATS YOU. It has individual teeth bigger than your characters! It's probably one of the cooler fights in the game. 
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Dec 24, 2016 08:02
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I wonder if we're gonna learn anything about Reapers obviously tragic past in the end game. Or if it's just gonna be "We needed a mid boss who looked like Magus; don't thing about it too hard."
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Dec 24, 2016 16:06
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TDI mentioned a few late-game sidequests. I'm betting that Reaper's entire schtick will be covered there. What I really want to know is, what's the deal with Cornelius? Why did he hire Endir at the beginning of the game?
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Dec 24, 2016 16:28
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The Dark Id posted:
This is still the best.
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Dec 24, 2016 16:56
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You know, I actually really like Nidr's character portrait. He looks like a dude who's been through some poo poo.
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MachuPikacchu posted:TDI mentioned a few late-game sidequests. I'm betting that Reaper's entire schtick will be covered there. for some reason that probably will never be explained, the last boss isn't meekly waiting for the seal to be refreshed this cycle. presumably if setsuna didn't make it to the last lands this time he would be able to get out. so, he created reaper, empowered the barrier tiger (it was just a regular boss in previous cycles), and likely had something to do with cornelius too. so, while the last boss was behind everything, he kinda shot himself in the foot because he accidentally added a mute jrpg protagonist to the originally wimpy sacrifice party.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:for some reason that probably will never be explained, the last boss isn't meekly waiting for the seal to be refreshed this cycle. presumably if setsuna didn't make it to the last lands this time he would be able to get out. so, he created reaper, empowered the barrier tiger (it was just a regular boss in previous cycles), and likely had something to do with cornelius too. so, while the last boss was behind everything, he kinda shot himself in the foot because he accidentally added a mute jrpg protagonist to the originally wimpy sacrifice party. Alternately, Cornelius was unwittingly serving an interest that wanted the sacrifice to succeed, and knew that hiring Endir to kill Setsuna would have the opposite effect by some 9th dimensional chess. That's just dumb enough for this game. Honestly it seems like the answer should have been that Aeterna and Time Judge try to tweak things each cycle instead of just trying the exact same thing over and over and hoping for a different result. This cycle was a "gently caress it, let's do something crazy, why not?" experiment.
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Dec 24, 2016 17:14
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Maybe this is the first cycle in which Endir said yes to the hit job?
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Dec 24, 2016 17:18
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Well, at least Endir getting his poo poo kicked in by cutscene Aeterna feels a bit more appropriate given that she's the avatar of an undying supermage.
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Dec 24, 2016 17:21
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Thinking about it, the Dark Salamander doesn't really stand to gain anything if Setsuna bites early. Time Judge just resets the cycle early in that case. eta awesome autocorrect error, leaving it in.
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Cut content showing the earlier time loops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhZjQwHJFJY
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Part XLII: Chrono Break.jpg)  ...... ...... ...Is it OK if I fight with them? *cocks eyebrow* If you must. No holding any grudges the next cycle if this goes poorly. Music: Out of Time (This only plays here and it’s a pretty rad boss battle theme.) .jpg) Time to take on The Time Judge. She’s been waiting 1000 years plus however many mulligans there have been of Setsuna’s journey for this fight. Let’s put on a good show. 5275 HP is the order of the day against this boss. Now, you might be worried this very clear Yunalesca from Final Fantasy X analog might be as big of a roadblock as the one she’s copying. She’s got a unique boss theme and everything! And I’m here to tell you that is... absolutely not the case... The Time Judge is way more manageable than the Reaper boss rush earlier in this dungeon. .jpg) The Time Judge’s main gimmick, true to her namesake, is time manipulation. Most troublingly, she has Haste that she will constantly buff herself with in battle. And unfortunately the only person with the ability to dispel an enemy buff like this is Kir. So we’re just going to have to deal with a Hasted boss because pfft... I’m never using Kir. .jpg) TJ also access to Slow and Stop. Thankfully, she’s way more likely to cast the former. Stop is indistinguishable from death in this game insofar in if the only remaining character is Stopped and the rest are KOed, it is a Game Over. That could go badly. Slow, on the hand, is just a minor inconvenience at best. Endir’s Momentum buffed Aura can sort out Slow or we can use a Panacea. There’s no distinction between magic and physical debuffs in this game. Status curative items work on both. .jpg) The thing that makes Not-Yunalesca a fairly easy to deal with boss battle comes in two forms. First off is that she just... doesn’t really have a tremendous amount of damage output. She has two single target physical attacks: Sweeping Slash and Stab. They both only do 200+ HP of damage. And she seems to rarely target the same character twice in a row. So no big deal. .jpg) Spinning Slash is a full party physical damage attack but it’s still in the 150-175 HP of damage range and again, Time Judge both doesn’t target the same character twice and doesn’t usually use the same attack twice in a row. .jpg) Comet is Time Judge’s most dangerous attack as it does 75-100 HP of damage x 4 hits. Which could be trouble, but I feel like there’s some sort of percentage damage modifier on it since Comet seems to hit characters with less HP for a less damage than those with higher total health (i.e. it hits Aeterna for around 75 x 4 but Endir gets beaned from 95 x 4.) But still, it’s only a single character targeting attack. .jpg) .jpg) Later on in the fight, Time Judge begins employing Meteo regularly. This will do a good 200+ HP of damage to everyone. It’s best just to have Setsuna on stand-by building Momentum for a Cure II to deal with Meteo and the like. Cure II with Momentum will refill Setsuna’s AP gauge about 75% instantly on cast. So she’s basically always ready for a full party heal as long as her MP stays topped off. .jpg) .jpg) Lastly, Dark Samsara’s keeper has Shooting Star which is... well... just Meteo but not as damaging. Not really sure of the point of this attack. But here it is for completion’s sake! It’s just there to add spice for when she starts spamming Meteo, I think. .jpg) I haven’t talked about what to do about actually attacking The Time Judge. Aeterna’s mom is incredibly resilient to magical attacks. Kir and most of Setsuna’s offensive Tech arsenal are complete useless. Time Judge will entirely no-sell any direct magic attacks. Physical attacks, on the other hand, Time Judge has NOT been putting the work into buffing her defense against. Indeed, she is incredibly weak to any physical attacks. Just normal physical attacks like Endir’s Cyclone or Aeterna’s charge do 250+ HP of damage against her. So let’s take that to the next level! This fight can be completed in about two minutes if you’re feeling motivated! Endir’s Battle Cry tech boosts Speed, Defense, and most importantly Attack. Just the normal version of it. We don’t need to get fancy with Momentum. We want everyone to have one Momentum stock. Setsuna and Aeterna can just hang out and make sure they’re ready to cast. .jpg) Now, with triple the attack power against an enemy already weak to physical strikes, let’s see what our baby Grand Cross can do with the kid’s gloves taken off of it, eh? .jpg) Yeah, that did around 3887 HP of damage in a single turn or ‘round 75% of her total HP. That’s not too shabby. Especially since I’d already done about 2000 HP of damage against her before trying this. .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) Like I said, the Time Judge wasn’t too bad of a boss encounter for something that... well... didn’t actually have any build up beyond a vague “there’s probably something to fight at the end of the pilgrimage” part. Music: A Hidden Force .jpg)  Ain’t you gonna help us out in the final battle, then? That would be difficult, since the only way to reach Dark Samsara is past the barrier my magical energy is sustaining. Oh... Why did you think I was testing you? I was bored? Well... I suppose that partly WAS an element, but... Besides that... I have entrusted my life force and magical energy unto him... Him...?The Time Judge rises to her feet. .jpg) *turns away from party and nods* Your strength shall also be needed... I don’t like where this is going... Same..jpg) .jpg) Music: The Lone Reaper .jpg) Oh for gently caress SAKE! No! We killed this guy... He evaporated into .jpg) UGH! Hey... can we go hit up that save point around the corner before we whomp this guy for the SIXTH time...? I think that’s only fair... *turns to Nidr* Wait... *turns to Reaper* Are you here as our enemy? Or are you....jpg) What’s that mean!? When his physical body was destroyed, the Dark Samsara’s control over him disappeared... I then channeled magical energy into his residual life force, thus resurrecting him... Okay... WHY?! But he’s our enemy! If he did become our ally, he’d definitely make a powerful one... W-well, yeah... but... We are NOT entertaining the idea of this guy joining us at the last minute? He turned into a frikkin’ DRAGON and tried to kill us just like... 45 minutes ago... I did not know if he, who cared not for his own life, would wish to be granted life again. I took a gamble on whether or not to resurrect him... You busted out big, lady. Sheesh. Why didn’t you just pop out another Aeterna? It doesn’t work like that. This is all DUMB. Even if he has been freed from the thrall of the Dark Samsara, we must still remain vigilant. We cannot disregard the possibility that he is still our enemy, and that he shall yet attack us. Even without the Dark Samsara’s influence the black clad rogue may still yet be a knave at heart. ...What? This dude could still just be a dick. Ah. ...... Remember the part of Chrono Trigger where Magus could join the party but you were still given the option of going “Man, gently caress THAT GUY!” and fighting him to the death. Or having a sweet one on one duel to the death between Frog and Magus to settle their score? Yeah... They’re not actually giving us that option... .jpg) He’s our enemy! Fight him! *shakes head* I am no longer bound by another... My will is my own. If you wish to fight, then I shall fight you. Now you’re talkin’... I still wanna see how deep that hole outside the Last Lands is if I punt your head into it. *nods* I trust him... ...What? NO! Geez... You stupid IDIOT. Hey! Secret dad, you’ve got a moron legacy in your family. *sweats* Hush! I’ve all but directly stated what we both know here and even now she’s too oblivious to connect the dots. Calm down... *blankly smiles at Reaper* If he is truly our ally, then a strong one he shall undoubtedly be... Oh, not you too! You all... never informed me what your quarrel was with this man. He was possessed by an evil entity and now he is not. If he can be used to our ends, I see no harm. *makes fart noise with mouth* What should we call you? The Reaper isn’t the... best title to refer to an ally... *looks away and shakes head* I have no name... You may call me by whatever one you wish..jpg) So much like Trebuchet and its original terrible name, The Reaper’s default name is... Fides? Normally, I am against renaming main playable characters but... normally the final party member in a RPG isn’t given literally outside the final boss door. So gently caress it! I’m making an executive decision here. Reaper... you are hereby dubbed... .jpg) ...Endir. Really? Look, this is the only way this is happening... He’s Dingus. We’re calling him Dingus. .......jpg) And so we gain our actual final party member in the form of I hate they make Reaper playable here. As hacky as a lot of this game was writing wise, I would commend it for making all the playable characters stay active in interjecting in the plot and participating in events the entire way. Most JRPGs COMPLETELY gently caress that up and utterly forget about a couple characters by the third act. Hell, even Chrono Trigger is guilty of this. Ayla becomes and Frog both become mostly non-entities beyond generic lines after the Middle Ages and Prehistoric wraps up until end game sidequests. But then they even gently caress that up with Reaper, who has one sidequest and is just here for the final boss. And spoilers, he will absolutely not have any crucial role for the final battle and ending sequence. He's just kinda there as an extra body. It's bad. It's all bad. They shouldn't have done this! There's no reason for this to happen besides being a lovely Magus analog. .jpg) Thank you... All of you... Please put an end to this long battle, and bring this world into the future... Aeterna... Before long, you too shall no doubt disappear... Please... watch over them as long as there is life in you... *nods*The Time Judge falls to her knees. .jpg) Before you do... will you tell us your name...?.jpg) .jpg) Oh... OK. ...Should we know that name? Is that significant? I... don’t think so... *nods* Eutess... Thank you... You’ve more than played your part... Have a good rest....jpg) .jpg) ...What’s this shakin’? What the hell’s goin’ on? For once it’s justified someone was a load bearing boss....jpg) With the Time Judge Eutess’ death, the barrier holding back Dark Samsara weakens enough for the party to enter. She was also kind enough to form a pathway into the Dark Samsara’s realm before croaking. It would have been funny if there was another gap over a pit dilemma presented itself. One that actually reasonably could require a catapult to solve. But alas... .jpg) All we can do now is fight... So our enemy’s this vastly powerful creature... that’s been storing up its energy for a thousand years... This is no time for hesitation. We are this world’s last hope, are we not? Yeah, I know... You’re not the one who was told he died a bunch of times in this journey. Actually, Julienne died MOST of the time. She usually wandered off at the top of Fridging Heights and we just shrugged and went on without her. Or she turned into an armored mutant boss, depending on the loop. Oh... That... doesn’t actually make me feel any better. My resolve to end this is somewhat bolstered... I still cannot believe I am getting F’d out of my paycheck by time shenanigans and this goth dingus is joining us. Worst job ever....jpg) In any case, that concludes Chapter 12 of I am Setsuna. One chapter remains! Technically, there’s only maybe 2-3 main plot updates left. But defeating the Time Judge and gaining Reaper as a party member has unlocked all of the character sidequests, which we’ll be tackling next. One for each character. Even the ones that only joined five minutes ago. I don’t think I’m finishing this LP by 2017’s start...    Time Judge Concept Art – In case you wanted to know what Eutess’ butt looked like. The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Dec 26, 2016 |
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I really enjoy how there is literally no reason for this to happen but WE NEED A MAGUS.
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The Dark Id posted:
Is she really holding a staff with the C from Chrono Trigger on it
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These developers are utter hacks, and I'm saying that as someone who has no attachment to Chrono Trigger at all.
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Well, from last update into this one, I feel it's appropriate both gameplay and thematically that Endir is carrying these people through this. With him being really good, the mages being lackluster, and bosses like this one with high magical defense. I hope the last boss is also good against mages to continue the theme. Oh yes, and hello Magus.
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Was Magus all that good as a party member? I don't know since the last time I played Chrono Trigger I killed him, probably should've killed Quiet from Metal Gear Solid V when I played that since I'll probably never play that game again.
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HenryEx posted:Is she really holding a staff with the C from Chrono Trigger on it aaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHHH
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Fabulousvillain posted:Was Magus all that good as a party member? I don't know since the last time I played Chrono Trigger I killed him, probably should've killed Quiet from Metal Gear Solid V when I played that since I'll probably never play that game again. Magus is an extremely strong magic user but has fewer combination techs than anyone.
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Hes has absolutely no combination techs. Unless you equip him with one of two obscure accessories. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Dec 24, 2016 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Hes has absolutely no combination techs. Nah, he's got two, but they need Black Rock and Blue Rock respectively so it's not really worth it especially since most triple techs are less effective than just doing three single techs. Edit: As your edit clarifies!
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Fabulousvillain posted:Was Magus all that good as a party member? I don't know since the last time I played Chrono Trigger I killed him, probably should've killed Quiet from Metal Gear Solid V when I played that since I'll probably never play that game again. He's not Robo, and that means that he's terrible.
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Pyroi posted:He's not Robo, and that means that he's terrible. Man, nothing's better in the DS remake than having an easy supply of speed tabs to stick on Robo. It completely overwrites his one disadvantage and makes him a monster.
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It's too bad this is Endir's first appearance in the cycle. It would've been interesting to have a loop where he stuck to his job and became a (recurring?) Boss for the rest of the party.
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Wow, between the reference weapons in the silver techno chests , the sudden time fiddling reveal, Eutess' staff, and the last minute Reaper thing, it really feels like they back loaded the bulk of the Chrono Trigger references. Also, sure, the explanation from Aeterna and Eutess explained a lot, but it did not explain what happened at Fridging Heights. We still have no clue why she just magic dusted away like that. Clearly it's not that Eutess temporarily stopped magically fueling her in shock about the vanished chunk of Last Lands , cause Aeterna hasn't poofed out immediately even with her creator gone. Name stuff: Fides is apparently the Roman goddess of trust and therefore the Latin word for trust or faith, as in "bona fides." Couldn't really find anything on Eutess. Plain search got me stuff about this game, some guy named Robert Eutess, and some people in the EU named Tess. Google translate gave me nothing until I told it to translate from Japanese since Aeterna was JP. That got me "Education", but translating "education" into Japanese got me a completely different word, so I got no clue. Maybe it's a synonym or something. Part XLI The Dark Id posted:For the sake of my people, I too shall end you my strength. Wasn't sure if the second was two-talk, or a possible typo of "You guys/You two" Part XLII The Dark Id posted:Most troublingly, she has Haste the she will constantly buff herself with in battle.
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I actually like Eutess' staff. It's neat and the sort of thing I'd expect to have on a Time Lord's staff.
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