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CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Yu-Gi-Ho! posted:

I don't think 38 and 41 are too young to know where seatbelts are. :v:

I'd guess maybe Australia required 3 point belts a lot sooner than the US?

Late 60's so there is a good change they were def too young to ever be in a car without 3 points at the front. Mandatory rear belts mid 70's, the lap seat belt fo the middle passenger was early 90's I think, might have been later.

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Grater
Jul 11, 2001
Might seem like a nice guy, but cross me once...

KozmoNaut posted:

I just watched the Roadkill+MCM episodes, and goddamn that Impala is the greatest dumbest thing ever.

IMHO, both teams knocked it out of the park. It seemed like both also had a really good time. Marty seemed genuinely excited a few times which seems to be more and more rare lately. I really hope they do this again, maybe next time swap and build a car in the other team's style instead.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Late 60's so there is a good change they were def too young to ever be in a car without 3 points at the front. Mandatory rear belts mid 70's, the lap seat belt fo the middle passenger was early 90's I think, might have been later.

Middle lap belts were around since the 70s in Australia, the three point version only became popular in the mid 90s, later for hatch backs.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?
Eh,, Marty just seems like a sort of reserved chap. I like the combo of Moog and Marty.

e: Jesus christ, I thought Marty was like 29 tops. He's got 10 years on me!

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1ZhySaz648

RWB Atlanta #1

And a personal build:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53b6w1j89Hk

the spyder fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Dec 29, 2016

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

railroad graffiti

Grater posted:

I really hope they do this again, maybe next time swap and build a car in the other team's style instead.

Yea I really want to see the roadkill guys take on a Honda Civic or something like that.... fwd, 90s or newer, at minimum

DefaultPeanut
Nov 4, 2006
What's not to like?

Cool to see, but using self-tapping Philips seems a little lack luster for a finished piece.

Root Bear
Nov 15, 2004

DARKEST SKETCH
Mike Musto debuted his new show today, starting off with his own personal car collection:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJFxmaFLAbU


Love the concept, can't wait to see more. :allears:

Root Bear fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Dec 30, 2016

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





mobby_6kl posted:

:siren: Christmas Miracle :siren:

New Roadkill + Might Car Mods are up!


E: The Roadkill video, at least, is very, very good though it could've been easily been much longer. I've heard before that they were going to build cars for each other, but somehow I thought they'd do it in the other's style, so MCM would try to build a muscle car for Roadkill, and Roadkill would try to turbo some Japanese shitbox. Still, it was great a sit is.

Watching the Roadkill episode finally, and I kept wondering at the end... how did they get around the noise regulations at Qualcomm? Yea.. . dumb, I know. Great episode though. Watching the MCM episode now.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojY3BiYl870

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





^^ That is really well done. It works way better than it has any right to!

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
:siren: New Roadkill! :siren:

The Mini-Truck and Road Runner Episode! - Roadkill Ep. 58: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFdpJKpxGNQ

Nothing actually goes particularly wrong for them but it's a very fun episode. Unfortunately it also highlights the issue with the recent Top Gear/Grand Tour, which somehow don't manage to be half as entertaining despite having teams of writers and infinitely higher budgets.

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡
The new top gear (grand tour) has the three of them doing a bit more acting and it is somewhat eye rolling when they do it but I disagree that its worse. I quite like it. Its no Roadkill, but its good.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Crumpling a 1700hp Camaro at 190mph or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEfRsMmC5w

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014
IM SO BAD AT ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT F1 IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY SOME DUDE WITH TOO MUCH FREE MONEY WILL KEEP CHANGING IT UNTIL I SHUT THE FUCK UP OR ACTUALLY POST SOMETHING THAT ISNT SPEWING HATE/SLURS/TELLING PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES

The Locator posted:

Crumpling a 1700hp Camaro at 190mph or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEfRsMmC5w

:dogbutton:

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

I think they managed to break the OnStar system. :v: That beeping before they get out is the OnStar system trying to call out.. they don't work so well when the antenna gets ripped off.

That's a hell of a crash, glad they lived.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
And right there kids is why you dont put poo poo cages in cars.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

And right there kids is why you dont put poo poo cages in cars.

Agreed, but even with a beast of a cage, dude better go buy a lotto ticket. 200mph is a lot of energy to dissipate.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


And that's why if you have a 1700bhp car you should probably have appropriate aero kit to help prevent such things.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Enourmo posted:

Agreed, but even with a beast of a cage, dude better go buy a lotto ticket. 200mph is a lot of energy to dissipate.

The issue here is that the cage collapsing could have been prevented - and thence the cage itself became a lethal hazard. A couple of extra bars and he wouldnt have had the headache from hell.

Hell, even a basic ten point would have held up which is the least I would have done, that "cage" was just simply dangerous in the event of a real crash.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Yu-Gi-Ho! posted:

I think they managed to break the OnStar system. :v: That beeping before they get out is the OnStar system trying to call out.. they don't work so well when the antenna gets ripped off.

That's a hell of a crash, glad they lived.

It might have been a different video (there are a few different ones out there of this crash) but you can hear the OnStar operator asking if anyone is injured at one point when they are pulling the passenger out, so no, they actually didn't manage to break OnStar, it was still working!

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



The Locator posted:

Crumpling a 1700hp Camaro at 190mph or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEfRsMmC5w

Is that Arnold Schwarzenegger in the car?

NYAHHHHRRGGAHHHHHHRRRNYAAAAA

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

The Locator posted:

It might have been a different video (there are a few different ones out there of this crash) but you can hear the OnStar operator asking if anyone is injured at one point when they are pulling the passenger out, so no, they actually didn't manage to break OnStar, it was still working!

That's.. pretty impressive. You'd think the antenna being torn off in the wreck would have disabled it.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

The issue here is that the cage collapsing could have been prevented - and thence the cage itself became a lethal hazard. A couple of extra bars and he wouldnt have had the headache from hell.

Hell, even a basic ten point would have held up which is the least I would have done, that "cage" was just simply dangerous in the event of a real crash.

Well, but it was a street car. And the roll bar appears to have done a little bit to keep the roof from collapsing even more.

I'd guess plenty of cars there that day were going just as fast with no safety equipment. I mean, yeah, it's a closed course, and yeah, it had a lot of power, but it was just going in a straight line with no solid objects in sight.

I think a better roll bar (without being a full cage), and better seats would have been a good start.

Savington
Apr 9, 2007
I'm not Stinkmeister, this title is here so waar can tell the difference between Stinkmeister and myself in mafia games.

jamal posted:

Well, but it was a street car. And the roll bar appears to have done a little bit to keep the roof from collapsing even more.

I'd guess plenty of cars there that day were going just as fast with no safety equipment. I mean, yeah, it's a closed course, and yeah, it had a lot of power, but it was just going in a straight line with no solid objects in sight.


Street cars are not immune to the laws of physics. "It's a street car" is not an excuse for sub-par safety gear. At 190mph, NHRA would demand a full 10-point cage, proper seats, belts, and a whole lot more. I have very little sympathy for the driver/owner of that car, owing entirely to his own decision to put his life in the hands of woefully inadequate safety gear.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
James May putting together a motorcycle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3R4pstLlqE

It's like an ASMR video for mechanics.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire

Savington posted:

Street cars are not immune to the laws of physics. "It's a street car" is not an excuse for sub-par safety gear. At 190mph, NHRA would demand a full 10-point cage, proper seats, belts, and a whole lot more. I have very little sympathy for the driver/owner of that car, owing entirely to his own decision to put his life in the hands of woefully inadequate safety gear.

Just a roll bar would be allowed at a drag strip unless it's was doing faster than 10s.

Plenty of stuff will go 180+ down a runway right off the showroom. You can't take your lambo, gtr, zo6 etc down an open runway without a full cage? A roll cage is not proper safety equipment for a street driven car, so what is the answer there?

jamal fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jan 12, 2017

Aargh
Sep 8, 2004

jamal posted:

Just a roll bar would be allowed at a drag strip unless it's was doing faster than 10s.

Plenty of stuff will go 180+ down a runway right off the showroom. You can't take your lambo, gtr, zo6 etc down an open runway without a full cage? A roll cage is not proper safety equipment for a street driven car, so what is the answer there?

Looking at pictures of crashed supercars seems to show the carbon monocoques are significantly stronger than that car though.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
The issue isnt that the roll bar isnt inadequate - at some point all safety equipment becomes inadequate with enough speed/force applied - the point is that it was such a loving flawed design that it makes the crash MORE dangerous. Collapsing like it did right where their heads are means that you have a bloody hard piece of steel for your head to be bashed against rather than the softer materials the interior has, making the chance they walk out less. Or in this case, gave em a bigger headache.

This is such a well known fact in roll over protection, it boggles my mind that anyone would be stupid enough to sell a kit that a) doesnt actually do the job it's supposed to and b) after it fails, becomes lethal.

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡

Aargh posted:

Looking at pictures of crashed supercars seems to show the carbon monocoques are significantly stronger than that car though.

Its a lot easier to design a steel and aluminum car to be that strong than a CFRP one. The fact that there are supercars designed to go end over end is a testament to their composites, aero and stress engineers.

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

The issue isnt that the roll bar isnt inadequate - at some point all safety equipment becomes inadequate with enough speed/force applied - the point is that it was such a loving flawed design that it makes the crash MORE dangerous. Collapsing like it did right where their heads are means that you have a bloody hard piece of steel for your head to be bashed against rather than the softer materials the interior has, making the chance they walk out less. Or in this case, gave em a bigger headache.

This is such a well known fact in roll over protection, it boggles my mind that anyone would be stupid enough to sell a kit that a) doesnt actually do the job it's supposed to and b) after it fails, becomes lethal.

Yea they couldve run some tubing along the floor and a shaft straight up the middle and it wouldn't have caved but at least everyone was okay. The a pillar on the PS is in surprisingly good shape, I guess because the two other support bars are there.

Savington
Apr 9, 2007
I'm not Stinkmeister, this title is here so waar can tell the difference between Stinkmeister and myself in mafia games.

jamal posted:

Just a roll bar would be allowed at a drag strip unless it's was doing faster than 10s.

http://www.nhra.com/competition/etquickref.aspx

10-point cage required at 135mph. Chutes required at 150mph. Don't see either on that 1700hp Camaro.

quote:

Plenty of stuff will go 180+ down a runway right off the showroom. You can't take your lambo, gtr, zo6 etc down an open runway without a full cage? A roll cage is not proper safety equipment for a street driven car, so what is the answer there?

You're assuming that a street car off the showroom floor is safe at 180+mph down a runway. I would disagree, and so would most respected sanctioning bodies. A race car that goes 190mph in the standing mile and a street car that goes 190mph in the standing mile will crash with about the same amount of force. The existence of an interior, A/C, power steering, or other amenities does not change the fact that going 190mph is dangerous. If you don't want to tear up your street car by installing appropriate safety gear for the speed potential of the vehicle, then you should either A) not race your street car, or B) build a proper race car, or C) both.

The answer is to not race a car that doesn't have adequate safety gear. Yes, that's extremely inconvenient. Yes, a lot of people choose to race their heavily modified street cars anyway. I've watched well-respected shops put out videos of GTRs going deep into the 7s on a cage that wouldn't pass NHRA tech for 9.99s. I think they're every bit as stupid as the guy who built that Camaro.

Look at what bodies like the SCTA (Bonneville) requires for various speeds. Stock safety gear is not going to cut it at 180+mph there.

Savington fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Jan 13, 2017

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

Uthor posted:

James May putting together a motorcycle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3R4pstLlqE

It's like an ASMR video for mechanics.
These are just wonderful.

I wanna see him assemble a tube amp, like a Plexi Marshall or something.

Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot

coupbrick posted:

Is that Arnold Schwarzenegger in the car?

NYAHHHHRRGGAHHHHHHRRRNYAAAAA

Anyone can get to sounding like Arnold with a strong enough hit to the cranium. Your speech won't work for at least a few seconds.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Localish guy has an absurd rotary-powered 1929 Ford Speedster hoonmachine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DrSTUeOe5o

Here it is on a frozen lake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEvBXn6KJ5w

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Localish guy has an absurd rotary-powered 1929 Ford Speedster hoonmachine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DrSTUeOe5o

Here it is on a frozen lake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEvBXn6KJ5w

Hang on, it's AWD? Pretty sure it wasn't in the first video; guy must have rebuilt it between the two.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Raluek posted:

Hang on, it's AWD? Pretty sure it wasn't in the first video; guy must have rebuilt it between the two.

I'm pretty sure it's not AWD in the second video, either. The front wheels don't seem to be doing the classic zero-turn donut.

Hello Spaceman
Jan 18, 2005

hop, skip, and jumpgate
Granted, though the title for the second video says AWD haha.

Also that thing is cool as gently caress and the six-shooter cylinder gearknob is a nice touch.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d03svtYlFm8

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


Gale Banks in the AI images thread led me to checking out the Banks Power Youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMusa5hZxtk

The man isn't wrong and I can't find any faults with his line of thinking.

Screw it, here's another great one again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HARjiJEA8eo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDGfzYiDEpI

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redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

If you're unfamiliar with the sloppy mechanics' youtube channel, here's an unassuming work truck doing work truck things

Sure is a nice residential neighborhood you have here, would be a shame if someone were to BBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEyFBhp7LFo

It also made 992hp on the dyno, followed by some concerning tapping noises:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo3kZ8wbnkA&t=40s

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Jan 24, 2017

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