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Hat Thoughts posted:Not rly haha, you want there to be acknowledgement from Disney that the films have been edited & that the original versions have value that's been lessened by and/or distinct from the later special editions? I want to buy the films in a manner that is similar to every other film out there. If there's other versions they will be included. Christ.
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I think the theatrical version of BvS is complete garbage and the extended is miles better, but it wouldn't be fair to those that prefer the original if they didn't release it. I know that a few of you here dig the theatrical more so than the extended. Having both versions is neat.
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Jan 4, 2017 01:12
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Speaking of alt versions. Does the Hateful Eight bluray contain the 70mm version with the interlude?
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CelticPredator posted:I think the theatrical version of BvS is complete garbage and the extended is miles better, but it wouldn't be fair to those that prefer the original if they didn't release it. I know that a few of you here dig the theatrical more so than the extended. Yeah but the thing I was saying earlier is that what you're asking for exactly already exists exactly. I don't understand why it being unofficial/not available for "purchase" somehow makes it less valid when you can still get it super easy. Like ,yeah, I agree that it's too bad that they didn't officially release a high-res version but who cares, people put in a lot of time and effort and did it themselves and now it's out there. Who cares if it's "unofficial" if it's the exact same thing?
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I think multiple cuts is one of the best extras you can have on Blu-Ray. Especially since it's more practical. Sony had to release the DVD edition of their 30th anniversary set for Close Encounters of the Third Kind over three discs (one for each cut) while the Blu-Ray has all three cuts on one disc.MacheteZombie posted:Speaking of alt versions. Does the Hateful Eight bluray contain the 70mm version with the interlude? No and it seems like it'll remain a 70mm print exclusive.
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Jan 4, 2017 01:22
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Egbert Souse posted:No and it seems like it'll remain a 70mm print exclusive. Dammit, not surprised though.
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Egbert Souse posted:No and it seems like it'll remain a 70mm print exclusive. There's one 35mm print that's identical to the Roadshow version, but it's in Quentin's personal collection and he only shows it for special occasions at the New Beverly Cinema. 
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Hat Thoughts posted:Yeah but the thing I was saying earlier is that what you're asking for exactly already exists exactly. I don't understand why it being unofficial/not available for "purchase" somehow makes it less valid when you can still get it super easy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqSmmsrZYw4
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my new hobby is to once a week (at least) throw on a movie that is going to really drive my surround sound system. Today is my last day before getting back to real life so I watched Pacific Rim and then Lone Survivor back to back. Both were great but Lone Survivor was much more impressive on a sound level. Pacific Rim was LOUD, but Lone Survivor was so rich in sound. Bullets flying, explosions, ambient sound, everything was top notch. I'm thinking about making a thread about best home theater showoff movies, discussion about if/when to upgrade to 4k, etc.
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blue squares posted:my new hobby is to once a week (at least) throw on a movie that is going to really drive my surround sound system. Today is my last day before getting back to real life so I watched Pacific Rim and then Lone Survivor back to back. Both were great but Lone Survivor was much more impressive on a sound level. Pacific Rim was LOUD, but Lone Survivor was so rich in sound. Bullets flying, explosions, ambient sound, everything was top notch. Do it. I'll contribute. While I don't care as much about whether a track has surround or not, I love it when it's an immersive mix.
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My friend just showed me that when he did his last job as an exterminator he asked the guy if he could keep a VHS in his collection that was sitting downstairs. He said yes. The VHS? I'm so jealous.
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Hat Thoughts posted:Yeah but the thing I was saying earlier is that what you're asking for exactly already exists exactly. I don't understand why it being unofficial/not available for "purchase" somehow makes it less valid when you can still get it super easy. It's just kind of loving insane that the only way to get an original, superior copy of one of the most important films in American cinematic history is to pirate it. The George Lucas edits are noticeably inferior to the original cut of a film that drastically changed American cinema, but the only way you can obtain the superior, original cut is through illegal means. To me, that's loving bonkers.
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GonSmithe posted:My friend just showed me that when he did his last job as an exterminator he asked the guy if he could keep a VHS in his collection that was sitting downstairs. He said yes. The VHS? That movie must be incomprehensible in pan & scan. Also, I'm not a fan of the movie, but Criterion's artwork is awesome: 
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GonSmithe posted:My friend just showed me that when he did his last job as an exterminator he asked the guy if he could keep a VHS in his collection that was sitting downstairs. He said yes. The VHS? I found a copy of that at goodwill awhile back, haven't hooked my VRC up to watch it, but I keep it out on display along with my copy of Re-Animator.
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Jan 4, 2017 02:53
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Egbert Souse posted:That movie must be incomprehensible in pan & scan. Any nostalgia I might have for VHS ends as soon as I think about this. Poor sound and picture quality is one thing, but 99% of the films you find on VHS are presented in an incorrect aspect ratio. Sure some of the covers were cool, but VHS was cinephiles' worst enemy.
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Egbert Souse posted:That movie must be incomprehensible in pan & scan. Awesome? Looks like a generic airport novel
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A local record store has criterion blurays of The Third Man and The Man Who Fell To Earth (no booklets, for whatever reason), for $99 each. I was too tempted, but thankfully didn't go through with it.
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wyoming posted:I found a copy of that at goodwill awhile back, haven't hooked my VRC up to watch it, but I keep it out on display along with my copy of Re-Animator. The correct spelling is Re-loving-Animator.
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Detective No. 27 posted:A local record store has criterion blurays of The Third Man and The Man Who Fell To Earth (no booklets, for whatever reason), for $99 each. I was too tempted, but thankfully didn't go through with it. Back when Netflix was a DVD delivery service I got both of those, should have eaten the 15 dollar disc replacement fee.
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Jan 4, 2017 03:13
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I definitely would have at least bought Third Man if I hadn't bought the DVD from a different place a couple weeks ago. I'll seek out the bluray whenever I get a better paying job.
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Jan 4, 2017 03:14
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haha i have both blu-rays, and also pierrot le fou and last year at marienbad  Spatulater bro! posted:Any nostalgia I might have for VHS ends as soon as I think about this. Poor sound and picture quality is one thing, but 99% of the films you find on VHS are presented in an incorrect aspect ratio. Sure some of the covers were cool, but VHS was cinephiles' worst enemy. That's definitely the worst part. Open matte I can handle, but pan-scan is abhorrent.
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I passed up The Third Man Criterion blu-ray at Barnes and Noble a few days after it was announced to be OOP because I hadn't heard the news. I found out the next day. I rushed back to the store and nope 
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Magic Hate Ball posted:haha i have both blu-rays, and also pierrot le fou and last year at marienbad Die yuppie scum!
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I bought The Third Man when it was only $16.99 on Amazon.  Spatulater bro! posted:Any nostalgia I might have for VHS ends as soon as I think about this. Poor sound and picture quality is one thing, but 99% of the films you find on VHS are presented in an incorrect aspect ratio. Sure some of the covers were cool, but VHS was cinephiles' worst enemy. I don't think it was that bad in general since most films shot for standard widescreen (1.85:1) tend to work just fine. Scope films are simply murdered. Can you believe films like The Royal Tenenbaums or Moulin Rouge! even had 4x3 versions? They're unwatchable because every single shot is composed in such a way that it's unintelligible without the full image.
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blue squares posted:Die yuppie scum! I just kind of slowly collected them as I found them for cheap. I saw the Chungking blu for like $15 once and I'm mad I didn't pick it up because it's one of my favorite movies. I'm like Citizen Kane, dying on a pile of OOPs I'm lukewarm on and muttering about Wong Kar-Wai.
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Hat Thoughts posted:no people spent years of their life making it identical to the laserdisc in hd Except it's not
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I don't think I ever pre-ordered a Criterion, though I ordered Army of Shadows when it was going OOP off Criterion's site. Well worth it. The only pre-orders I've had this decade were the Lawrence of Arabia gift set, Napoleon, Masters of Cinema Metropolis steelbook, and the Marx Brothers set. And It's Such a Beautiful Day if that counts.
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Also why the gently caress should I have to pirate it to watch the movie the way it was originally presented It's a real important movie in American cinema it should just be fuckin available
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X-Ray Pecs posted:It's just kind of loving insane that the only way to get an original, superior copy of one of the most important films in American cinematic history is to pirate it. The George Lucas edits are noticeably inferior to the original cut of a film that drastically changed American cinema, but the only way you can obtain the superior, original cut is through illegal means. To me, that's loving bonkers. The original theatrical cut of The Exorcist is only available through piracy.
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Also official release of the holiday special
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Also official release of the holiday special I think that can't be released due to the Geneva Conventions.
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Egbert Souse posted:I don't think I ever pre-ordered a Criterion, though I ordered Army of Shadows when it was going OOP off Criterion's site. Well worth it. The only Criterion I've pre-ordered is the Before Trilogy a couple months ago because it was $39.95 at Amazon by mistake.
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Also official release of the holiday special I agree with George Lucas. It's absolute garbage. The only good part, the Boba Fett cartoon, is on the Complete Saga Blu-Ray set, anyways. (If I were a betting man, I'd say we're finally getting at least Star Wars '77 unaltered this year. It's the 40th anniversary and there's a new 4K restoration)
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X-Ray Pecs posted:The George Lucas edits are noticeably inferior to the original cut Lmao, the death Star dogfight sequence of the theatrical cut looks like loving garbage compared to the SE cut among other things
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Magic Hate Ball posted:haha i have both blu-rays, and also pierrot le fou and last year at marienbad I bought TMWFTE on SA Mart (along with Frost/Nixon) for like $40.
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I like how alien and eerie the emperor looked in his first appearance.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The original theatrical cut of The Exorcist is only available through piracy. Which would also be bad if it were true
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Also official release of the holiday special Right, the point is that it's not unusual. I think the conclusion Hat Thoughts is approaching with CelticPredator is that [i]even receiving exactly what he demanded would not bring satisfaction.[/B] The goal is the desiring itself. Desire is sustained as long as the thing remains unobtainable. The actual 'unusual' new phenomenon is not the existence of rare alternate cuts, but a marked rise in speculation about hidden alternate versions - even of film that haven't been released at all yet. This is a tactic for sustaining desire. The new innovation has been speculation that
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I don't think there's anything wrong with small fixes or cleaning up effects as long as it's seamless. More so, the filmmakers ought to be involved or at least the fixes reflect what you'd see in original prints.
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